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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 12:42 AM
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National Airlines new St. John's-Orlando direct flight has launched. Airline will also offer flights from Vancouver, Windsor, Las Vegas, and San Juan.
Sorry to say, but don't hold your breath just yet...

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Looks like National Airlines has dropped plans to serve YVR altogether.

Originally they were supposed to start flights to SFB (Orlando Sanford) mid January (pretty much now). Then they delayed the launch to May 2016.

Anyway as of today, YVR is not displayed or mentioned anywhere in their website. Not listed as a destination in their schedules / booking section. YVR and LAS have also been removed off their route map.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 12:45 AM
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 12:46 AM
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Newleaf has released a press release.

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In a week and a half, hundreds of thousands of Canadians have come to the NewLeaf Travel Company website looking to find an easy, and affordable option for Canadian domestic and international air travel services. Like millions of travellers in countries across the world, the citizens of Canada are demanding access to affordable fares.

But, recent questions about licensing and regulation for Indirect Air Service Providers, like NewLeaf, have caused confusion and ambiguity in the market, which amplifies the need for a clear articulation of the regulations from the Canadian government.

The CTA is currently conducting this review, but during this period Newleaf decided that in order to confidently protect the interests of our customers against any potential changes that could affect their travel plans, we have temporarily postponed sales of airline tickets that were scheduled to begin on Feb. 12, 2016. All customers will receive an automatic full refund of all credit card transactions made to date within 72 hours.

We will be back!

We want to bring fair fares to Canada, and over the past two weeks it has been clear that thousands of Canadians are supporting our efforts and cheering us on!

Rest assured that NewLeaf will be working hard to continue to spark this revolution in Canada.

See the full news release here.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 8:31 PM
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Newleaf has released a press release.
To sum it up ....

We don't know what the rules are, they are confusing, so we will sell a bunch of tickets. We think Canada is being deprived by restricting the sale of airline tickets to licensed airlines.

Oh wait, the regulator says "Maybe or maybe not" we need to think about what your doing a bit more. Your sub-contractor Flair having aircraft, pilots, a license and knowing what the rules are they can sell tickets, but you we don't know about.

Ok, lets refund everything and we will try again after all. So we need to get a license after all?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 9:43 PM
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I hope people will also be able to get a refund for hotel nights they may have booked after having booked a flight. Otherwise this is a disaster for many that booked among the first.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 10:04 PM
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How many hotel rooms are pre-pay these days?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2016, 10:16 PM
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I think it varies, but at least Expedia has been charging me upon reservation.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2016, 1:05 AM
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How many hotel rooms are pre-pay these days?
Lots and lots. Many of the OTAs will give you a substantial discount if you book prepaid, often nonrefundable rates.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2016, 3:55 AM
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YYZ November Passenger Numbers

Another excellent month of growth.

Up 5.2% in the month and 6.5% YTD.

YYZ will turbo past the 40 million mark when the December results are announced.

http://www.torontopearson.com/en/gtaa/statistics/##

I would post this in the YYZ pages, but it isn't very active... No postings since September?

Without a doubt, YYZ is just way out in front of all major Canadian airports. YVR and YUL both performing very well at YTD growth of 4.9% and 4.6% respectively.

YWG, YLW, YYJ and YMM have all reported full year numbers with a very mixed bag of results so far.

YWG up 2.95%, YLW down 0.5%, YYJ up 3.6% and YMM down a horrific 16%.

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Well, WestJet is clearly shifting capacity away from recession stricken Alberta and transferring it to YYZ.

WS is starting YYZ-LAX/BNA. Also, MCO-YYZ and LAX-YVR see increases next summer.

On the other hand, it is reducing YYC-DFW and cancelling PSP-YEG as of May.

AA is also increasing LAX-YYZ next summer to double daily, so it will be an interesting 3 way battle on the route.

Also, UA is reducing SFO-YEG/YYJ to 1 daily next summer, and SFO-YYC to only 2 daily.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2016, 5:06 AM
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Looks like China Southern will begin YYZ service in Aug, and Rossiya Airlines will be bringing back a Moscow-Toronto route, just no confirmed date yet:

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

Sorry, I don't have a subscription to CAPA so I can only post the list of headlines.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2016, 7:07 AM
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Well, WestJet is clearly shifting capacity away from recession stricken Alberta and transferring it to YYZ.

WS is starting YYZ-LAX/BNA. Also, MCO-YYZ and LAX-YVR see increases next summer.

On the other hand, it is reducing YYC-DFW and cancelling PSP-YEG as of May.

AA is also increasing LAX-YYZ next summer to double daily, so it will be an interesting 3 way battle on the route.

Also, UA is reducing SFO-YEG/YYJ to 1 daily next summer, and SFO-YYC to only 2 daily.
WS is not cancelling YEG-PSP. All they are doing is ending their winter seasonal service earlier this year. Same with YYC-DFW, they are just ending their summer seasonal service a few weeks earlier than last summer.

On top of increasing YVR-LAX, Westjet is also launching YVR-SAN in June.
     
     
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Looks like China Southern will begin YYZ service in Aug, and Rossiya Airlines will be bringing back a Moscow-Toronto route, just no confirmed date yet:

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

Sorry, I don't have a subscription to CAPA so I can only post the list of headlines.
Interesting... CAPA's list of airlines serving YYZ seems to have an error. I notice Alitalia as a non-operator, but I'm pretty sure their cancellation of the YYZ service was for a few months. I think it's operating now, but I'd love to confirm.
     
     
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Interesting... CAPA's list of airlines serving YYZ seems to have an error. I notice Alitalia as a non-operator, but I'm pretty sure their cancellation of the YYZ service was for a few months. I think it's operating now, but I'd love to confirm.
It's only temporary, so they are very much still a regular operator at YYZ.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 12:24 AM
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Westjet cutting flights ??

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/we...calgary-edmonton-amid-downturn-1.2751358

CALGARY -- Fewer WestJet planes will be flying in and out Alberta's two biggest cities as weakness in the energy sector puts a damper on demand.
As of March, the airline said it will be reducing service between Calgary and Edmonton. Several more routes to and from those two cities are either being cancelled or scaled back.
"We look at our service based on supply and demand," WestJet vice-president Richard Bartrem said Monday.
"With the downturn in the economy, we're seeing less demand for travel to and from the energy markets and into areas across Canada. We've decided that we would move some of that capacity into markets where we're seeing less of that impact so that we're actually using the fleet as effectively as possible while minimizing the effect on the guest."

Bartrem said the decline in traffic has been "noticeable enough" to warrant changes, but did not specify how big of a drop the airline saw in the affected markets.
WestJet will be removing flights between Calgary and two B.C. destinations -- Terrace and Prince George. Direct flights between Edmonton and Nanaimo and Kamloops, B.C. are also being cancelled. Bartrem said customers can still get between those destinations by changing planes elsewhere.
As well, WestJet is reducing the number of flights between Calgary and Brandon, Man. and Fort McMurray, Alta. And there be fewer flights between the provincial capital and Abbotsford, B.C. and Grande Prairie, Alta.
WestJet (TSX:WJA) says it's transferring more of its capacity to Eastern Canada, meaning more trips between Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal as well as to Atlantic destinations like Halifax and Fredericton.
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Another new tail for YVR, this time it's Skyteam's Xiamen Air flying Vancouver-Xiamen 3 times per week on its Boeing 787-800. The service is set to start July 25 of this summer.
http://airlineroute.net/2016/01/25/mf-yvr-jul16/

Pretty sharp looking livery for a Chinese airline. Looking forward to seeing these when I visit.


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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 1:18 AM
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Love the livery indeed.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 1:51 AM
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Nice to see all that Asian tail at YVR.
     
     
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Yes, and probably still more to come.... But when will that be!?

Xiamen will be mainland Chinese carrier #5 and of overseas foreign carrier #21 operating at YVR.

Direct flights in mainland China to Shenyang, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Kunming and Xiamen. Not too shabby!
     
     
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