Calgary 9 LRV - Page 4

milomilo · #61 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by CTrainDude

The number of four-car trains will continue to grow as more new LRVs arrive and enter service, until all trains are four cars in 2017. Adding and dropping cars is very labour intensive, so it's just going to be four cars all the time (at least on weekdays).

Thanks! How will they be distributed? 60 vehicles isn't enough to make every train 4 cars and replace some of the old U2s, is it?

Rat · #62 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by lucx

Since the doors on the Series 9s are moved 1 module towards the center, does this allow more tolerance if the train over or undershoots the platform?

I don't think that's going to be implemented as a standard operating procedure

but I can see it happening at places like Centre Street platform if there is a bus blocking a couple of feet of it while waiting for a green light at 1st street east.

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Originally Posted by milomilo

What is the plan for using 4-cars? Will they put all 4-cars on the red line all the time, or just at rush hour? And if it's just rush hour, will they decouple them for a few hours?

From what I've been told, there won't be 4-car trains on the 202 line until 2017.

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Originally Posted by speedog

Any possibility of retrofitting existing cars with this?

These new glass doors are completely different from the SD160's and are made by another manufacturer so a simple swap wouldn't be possible. Also, 110 cars with 8 doors each would cost a bundle. The series 5, 6 and 7's will be modified (upgraded) to make them compatible with the 8's but new doors aren't on the list.

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Originally Posted by milomilo

Thanks! How will they be distributed? 60 vehicles isn't enough to make every train 4 cars and replace some of the old U2s, is it?

Lets say there are 40 trains out during both rush hours so we need 40 cars to bump them all up to 4-car trains. Then they're talking about retiring 22 U2's and we're getting 63 new S200's so that should work out. These numbers are not exact but they should give you a rough idea. That still leaves us with close to 60 of the antiquated U2's.

mersar · #63 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:46 PM**

Druh just shared a nice video on facebook from CT and Siemens about the production of the S200:

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Bokimon · #64 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:58 PM**

I would love to see a 4 car train mix consisting of all the Siemen models from a U2 to the different SD car models. Now THAT would be a sight to behold and ride on..

CrossedTheTracks · #65 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bokimon

I would love to see a 4 car train mix consisting of all the Siemen models from a U2 to the different SD car models. Now THAT would be a sight to behold and ride on..

Oooh, fun! Well the 2 AC U2's are already mated with early SD160's. Can that mated with a SD160 Series 8? And then with SD200?

Rat · #66 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by CrossedTheTracks

Oooh, fun! Well the 2 AC U2's are already mated with early SD160's. Can that mated with a SD160 Series 8? And then with SD200?

That could never happen. U2 AC 2101 was decommissioned and assigned to track maintenance. Part of the series 5, 6 and 7's upgrade will be new couplers that will make them compatible with the series 8 and that in turn will make U2 AC 2102 obsolete. The S200's couplers are quite different again as the electrical pins are stacked vertically on either side of the mechanical coupler.

CalgaryAlex · #67 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rat

That could never happen. U2 AC 2101 was decommissioned and assigned to track maintenance. Part of the series 5, 6 and 7's upgrade will be new couplers that will make them compatible with the series 8 and that in turn will make U2 AC 2102 obsolete. The S200's couplers are quite different again as the electrical pins are stacked vertically on either side of the mechanical coupler.

Can't you just buy an adapter at Radio Shack or something?

VIce · #68 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 9:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by CalgaryAlex

Can't you just buy an adapter at Radio Shack or something?

Probably back when it was actually Radio Shack

VIce · #69 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 9:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by mersar

Druh just shared a nice video on facebook from CT and Siemens about the production of the S200:

• Video Link

Probably the biggest shock to me, and the biggest indicator of how much advancement you can squeeze into something that you'd superficially think of being frozen in time like rail transit, is how much Cat5 cable you see being installed in this video. The implications for the volume and speed of data that's moving around internally inside the rail car is impressive.

Full Mountain · #70 Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 10:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by VIce

Probably the biggest shock to me, and the biggest indicator of how much advancement you can squeeze into something that you'd superficially think of being frozen in time like rail transit, is how much Cat5 cable you see being installed in this video. The implications for the volume and speed of data that's moving around internally inside the rail car is impressive.

Would wager that a lot of that ethernet cable is for control systems (remote I/O, distributed processors, etc.) not necessarily for the infotainment system, though I'm sure some of it is.

Rat · #71 Posted **Jan 18, 2016, 9:23 PM**

After spending the second half of last week at OBMF for the official reveal, car 2401 is back at Anderson where the commissioning work is about to start. I have noticed the seats being finished in a slightly different shade of red with textured finish instead of the shiny, polished surface they had a few months ago. I wonder if that's going to prevent the bowling alley effect when the brakes come on hard.

The next car should arrive within a week or two and they're looking at April to have at least a 3-car train in service by then. Car 2207 will get shrink-wrapped on the weekend and shipped to Sacramento for its midlife refit. They might even use the same flat car that will bring 2402.

VIce · #72 Posted **Jan 18, 2016, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Full Mountain

Would wager that a lot of that ethernet cable is for control systems (remote I/O, distributed processors, etc.) not necessarily for the infotainment system, though I'm sure some of it is.

That's exactly my point, though. I didn't even consider the infotainment system until you mentioned it.

Spring2008 · #73 Posted **Jan 19, 2016, 12:32 AM**

I've seen a bunch of pics online - great investment. In floor heating and A/C too. Hope to see more of this now that we stopped subsidizing overpasses and rec centres in the middle of nowhere.

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“We got a great deal on them,” said Mayor Naheed Nenshi.

“If we were to buy them today, with the Canadian dollar and what has happened to pricing of these things, they would cost well over $4 million per car and we would only be able to buy 43 rather than 63 of them.”

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/01/15/un-masked-calgary-transit-reveals-new-s200-lrt-cars

Innersoul1 · #74 Posted **Jan 22, 2016, 4:24 PM**

I am curious to see the view from the drivers compartment. In the clip they speak to how the compartment is like a fishbowl with increased glass and vision for the drivers. However, looking at the exterior view there seems to be some major blind spots at the corner pillars. However, maybe this is just an illusion from the exterior.

hulkrogan · #75 Posted **Jan 22, 2016, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innersoul1

I am curious to see the view from the drivers compartment. In the clip they speak to how the compartment is like a fishbowl with increased glass and vision for the drivers. However, looking at the exterior view there seems to be some major blind spots at the corner pillars. However, maybe this is just an illusion from the exterior.

They don't really have to shoulder check before changing lanes...

Fuzz · #76 Posted **Jan 22, 2016, 9:15 PM**

The video above at 5:32 gives an idea of visibility. It doesn't look to bad.

McMurph · #77 Posted **Jan 22, 2016, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innersoul1

I am curious to see the view from the drivers compartment. In the clip they speak to how the compartment is like a fishbowl with increased glass and vision for the drivers. However, looking at the exterior view there seems to be some major blind spots at the corner pillars. However, maybe this is just an illusion from the exterior.

I got the impression that they were specifically referring to the visibility from the cab back into the passenger compartment.

Rat · #78 Posted **Jan 30, 2016, 10:04 PM**

Can one of the mods change the name of this thread to General Ctrain info, please?

It was another busy week. Last Sunday car 2207 got shrink-wrapped and prepared for the trip south to Sacramento for its midlife refit.

On Thursday, CP delivered the next Mask (car 2402) and at the same time collected car 2207 from the Haysboro tail track.

Rat · #79 Posted **Feb 3, 2016, 3:03 AM**

The latest Siemens S200 2402 now with the skirts on moving around the yard.

CTrainDude · #80 Posted **Feb 3, 2016, 4:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rat

The latest Siemens S200 2402 now with the skirts on moving around the yard.

Any idea if they've actually tried to couple 401 and 402 together yet? For some reason that's something they don't test at the factory, so no one really knows 100% how they'll work when coupled together.....