Byline (1400 NE Multnomah) | 75' | 6 floors | Dead

[soleri]

I went to the third Design Review hearing tonight and it was not pretty. If anything, the commissioners were more negative about this iteration than the previous two. Tad Savinar was really acid, asking the Holst architect while pointing at a rendering "where's the fucking soul you mentioned"? David Wark said the problem boils down to the basic project concept it won't amend: too many units, all five+one construction, same bride-overs, and no design differentiation. The Holst presenter, who I think was John T Holmes, one of the firm's founders, emphasized the idea of a "village", which the commissioners were clearly not buying. Savinar ended the evening by challenging Holst to come up with a design the firm could clearly sell with excitement.

[58rhodes]

Originally Posted by soleri

I went to the third Design Review hearing tonight and it was not pretty. If anything, the commissioners were more negative about this iteration than the previous two. Tad Savinar was really acid, asking the Holst architect while pointing at a rendering "where's the fucking soul you mentioned"? David Wark said the problem boils down to the basic project concept it won't amend: too many units, all five+one construction, same bride-overs, and no design differentiation. The Holst presenter, who I think was John T Holmes, one of the firm's founders, emphasized the idea of a "village", which the commissioners were clearly not buying. Savinar ended the evening by challenging Holst to come up with a design the firm could clearly sell with excitement.

well good because its awful

[urbanlife]

Originally Posted by soleri

I went to the third Design Review hearing tonight and it was not pretty. If anything, the commissioners were more negative about this iteration than the previous two. Tad Savinar was really acid, asking the Holst architect while pointing at a rendering "where's the fucking soul you mentioned"? David Wark said the problem boils down to the basic project concept it won't amend: too many units, all five+one construction, same bride-overs, and no design differentiation. The Holst presenter, who I think was John T Holmes, one of the firm's founders, emphasized the idea of a "village", which the commissioners were clearly not buying. Savinar ended the evening by challenging Holst to come up with a design the firm could clearly sell with excitement.

Good for the commissioners because I think more often than not, Holmes comes up with these ideas on the way to the presentation rather than when they are working on the actual project.

[tworivers]

Thanks for the report Soleri!

My resolution for 2016: take the time to attend some of these reviews.

[AdamUrbanist]

The corridors in these building are a labrynth. I don't understand why they need to develop 5 and a half blocks with three buildings. I just can't possibly see how that is the only economical scale at which they can build this. The thing that makes the european urban spaces they're trying to imitate interesting is that they're made up of lots of small parts. This could be an interesting scheme if they did it with 7 or 8 distinct buildings.

[58rhodes]

Originally Posted by AdamUrbanist

The corridors in these building are a labrynth. I don't understand why they need to develop 5 and a half blocks with three buildings. I just can't possibly see how that is the only economical scale at which they can build this. The thing that makes the european urban spaces they're trying to imitate interesting is that they're made up of lots of small parts. This could be an interesting scheme if they did it with 7 or 8 distinct buildings.

bingo!!

[maccoinnich]

Holst Architecture have submitted 1510 NE Multnomah for Design Review:

Type III Design Review and Central City Parking Review for a new multi-building, mixed-use development. The project will include housing and retail uses, underground parking, private streets and pedestrian corridors. The Design Commission has offered guidance in a DAR (EA 15-167229). And, earlier this year the applicant met with staff in an Early Assistance meeting (EA 15-189556).

[maccoinnich]

Request for Response [PDF].

[cailes]

Well now that is a change from previous visuals

[maccoinnich]

Drawings [PDF - 336.7 MB] and Memo to the Design Commission.

[urbanlife]

Originally Posted by maccoinnich

Drawings [PDF - 336.7 MB] and Memo to the Design Commission.

I really want to like this proposed building, the whole concept of it is really interesting and completely different from what we have seen in Portland. My fear with it is the fact that it is in a part of the Lloyd District that seems like it won't cater to this style of development that well. Hopefully I am wrong and this is a major boost to the Lloyd District and creates a really unique space.

[2oh1]

Originally Posted by urbanlife

I really want to like this proposed building, the whole concept of it is really interesting and completely different from what we have seen in Portland. My fear with it is the fact that it is in a part of the Lloyd District that seems like it won't cater to this style of development that well. Hopefully I am wrong and this is a major boost to the Lloyd District and creates a really unique space.

That's my thinking too. I'm not convinced restaurants and retail would be successful on the inside of this super block, especially as presented here. Even if this super block was in the Pearl, I'd have doubts about retail on the inside of the block unless it was done in such a massive way that it all became a destination unto itself. And I just don't see that here.

[maccoinnich]

Staff Report [PDF], which does not yet recommend approval.

[maccoinnich]

[58rhodes]

actually looks kinda cool--I like it

[maccoinnich]

Holst Architecture have submitted 1510 NE Multnomah for building permit review:

New mixed use, multi family apartment building over parking and retail space

Bldg 2 – New Mixed Use Multi Family building with apartments over parking and retail space

[cailes]

You can tell someone knows the initial massing renderings were ill received. These renderings paint a much rosier picture.

[maccoinnich]

Presentation [PDF - 200MB] from DR hearing #2, held yesterday.

[maccoinnich]

Latest drawings [PDF - 37MB].

[maccoinnich]

Revised staff report, which recommends approval:

http://www.portlandoregon.gov/bds/article/588683?