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Old Posted Nov 25, 2015, 7:29 PM
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I went by there today. The coring for caissons continues on the eastern side. They have installed additional shoring beams on the north side near the RARC. Progress continues...
Yikes. Given the history, if RARC finds so much as one crack in a sheet of drywall, they'll file an emergency petition to stop work on site.
     
     
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Arch + Eng, I saw you say this could be costing ownership $10k-$20k. That is a small number compared to the price tag on this thing. Could sell upwards of $300 million($600k/room) if their plan is to sell. Westin at liberty place sold for $492k per room in 2010 soo $600k/room is feasible. An extra year of digging at $20k per day is only $7.3 million in extra costs. As long as the RE market stays hot in Philly which I think it will, the project is worth it for the developer to push through.

Also, if they are holding for the long term, I've seen that developers usually look at "development yield" (Proforma NOI divided by Total Costs) to see if a project is feasible. These additional costs don't affect yield substantially enough to stop building because of how large the numbers are. Initial yield is NOI/costs. Say the project costs $240 million. Hotel avg noi in the US is $20k per room, so $10 million for the W. Initial yield equals 10/240 = 4.16%. If it took an extra year like before, Initial yield equals 10/247.3 = 4.04%. The change is minimal. Also, those are are made up numbers to prove a point, I don't know what the actual projected costs and projected year 1 NOI are.
Keep in mind that that's a daily cost, though. Small daily costs can add up. (That's similar to how Walmart makes money: small margins sum into massive profits at volume.)

If this project is 100 days behind schedule (for the sake of argument) at a cost of $20k/day, that's already $2 million in additional cost. If sold for $300 million, those extra labor costs come out being 2/3rds of a percent of the final sale price. Not a large amount relative to the final price, to be sure, but certainly not insignificant either.
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What is that atrocious building on Chestnut that has the blank, concrete-looking facade?
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What is that atrocious building on Chestnut that has the blank, concrete-looking facade?
I assume that you mean Prince Music Theatre. It's actually a metal facade. Not exactly blank, but nothing great. The idea was to restore the facade back in the Eighties, but when they got behind what was there at the time, they saw that there was nothing much to restore. We therefore got the aluminum facade.
     
     
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I assume that you mean Prince Music Theatre. It's actually a metal facade. Not exactly blank, but nothing great. The idea was to restore the facade back in the Eighties, but when they got behind what was there at the time, they saw that there was nothing much to restore. We therefore got the aluminum facade.
I've always thought it an ugly building...It looked ok in some former incarnations long ago. Philadelphia Film Society saved it from going under last May. I'd love to see an exterior renovation but am not holding my breath...
     
     
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Anyone know when they're going to be done with all this digging and reopen the parking lot?
     
     
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Anyone know when they're going to be done with all this digging and reopen the parking lot?
After the show's over,

     
     
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Anyone know when they're going to be done with all this digging and reopen the parking lot?
They have to perform several more feasibility studies to determine whether a parking lot would work here...again.
     
     
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They have to perform several more feasibility studies to determine whether a parking lot would work here...again.
So you're saying it's going to reopen Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY or not until they complete shadow and wind tunnel studies on paving this lot?

In hindsight, you know what this location really needs?
     
     
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In hindsight, you know what this location really needs?
Hey, is that 1487's silhouette in the window?
     
     
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So you're saying it's going to reopen Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY or not until they complete shadow and wind tunnel studies on paving this lot?

In hindsight, you know what this location really needs?
There is one in the next block. Hence all the muggings and violence. You didn't hear?
     
     
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Wait....they've been digging at this for 33 years?!?! Where have I been? I was wondering what all the whining was about....
     
     
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