PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX

[loverboie]

Originally Posted by volguus zildrohar

They're the only two US cities that have ever been the largest US city. We take our hits but we keep on truckin'.

Not to shamelessly self-promote but my love of this city is why I capture it in photos. If you've got a minute or five check out the Philly photo threads in the My City Photos subforum if you haven't already.

Philly as I see it (ongoing) - by shadowbat2

Philadelphia - turn and burn weekend - by Centropolis

PHILLY | Love Today - by volguus zildrohar

Philadelphia - A City of Murals - by Nexis4Jersey

This is amazing! I love Philly and I am not even from the states, but it is one of my favorite cities in the US...

[BenKatzPhillytoParis]

Originally Posted by volguus zildrohar

They're the only two US cities that have ever been the largest US city. We take our hits but we keep on truckin'.

Not to shamelessly self-promote but my love of this city is why I capture it in photos. If you've got a minute or five check out the Philly photo threads in the My City Photos subforum if you haven't already.

Philly as I see it (ongoing) - by shadowbat2

Philadelphia - turn and burn weekend - by Centropolis

PHILLY | Love Today - by volguus zildrohar

Philadelphia - A City of Murals - by Nexis4Jersey

Really like your photos Volguus.

[PhillyPhlyr]

Originally Posted by loverboie

Philadelphia and New York City are the 2 cities in the US that where, and never drop out of the top five of the largest cities in the United State since the beginning of this country...Amazing if you ask me, Philly had it ups and downs, but it still remained in the top 5 through the years...

Pretty sure has Philly dropped out and was surpassed by Phoenix, of all places.

[Philly Fan]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyr

Pretty sure has Philly dropped out and was surpassed by Phoenix, of all places.

Nope, hasn't happened--at least not yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyr

Pretty sure has Philly dropped out and was surpassed by Phoenix, of all places.

Phoenix has not surpassed Philadelphia yet, although it most likely will by the 2020 census baring some catastrophic slow down in Phoenix's growth or a drastic uptick in Philadelphia's growth.

This is however, not really a concern for me since Phoenix is very clearly the smaller city with simply larger boundaries. Phoenix is 516 sq miles, Philadelphia is 134 square miles. Phoenix is already bigger population wise than DC, Miami, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, etc... no way is it a larger or more important city than these cities however.

[Outta here]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan

Nope, hasn't happened--at least not yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population

Ok , here's your dumb ass weekend history/population statistics lesson . In 1790 , Philadelphia
was the second largest city in the US . It feel to fourth place by the 1840 census ... but in 1860 it moved
back into second place behind NYC , which had occupied the top spot since it was referred to as New
Amsterdam . ( WHEW , glad the English changed that rather quickly ) . Then in 1890 Philly slipped to
third behind ...... well you know who and stayed there until 1960 when it was surpassed by LA . Then an
even bigger kick in the nuts came in 1990 when people with funny accents pushed ( the once number
two city ) to fifth on the list of biggest US cities . Phoenix is still hovering in sixth and shouldn't even be
considered for qualification do to the fact that it is a divided city with TWO separate down town locations .
........ That's my story , and I'm sticking to it ......

[cafeguy]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Phoenix has not surpassed Philadelphia yet, although it most likely will by the 2020 census baring some catastrophic slow down in Phoenix's growth or a drastic uptick in Philadelphia's growth.

This is however, not really a concern for me since Phoenix is very clearly the smaller city with simply larger boundaries. Phoenix is 516 sq miles, Philadelphia is 134 square miles. Phoenix is already bigger population wise than DC, Miami, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, etc... no way is it a larger or more important city than these cities however.

If we made Philly's borders 516 sq miles, how would our population compare to Pheonix? From my rough calculation, that would include areas in all directions 6 miles....bala cynwyd, cherry hill, camden, everything west of 295, king of prussia.

Those southern cities are crazy. Hell, San Antonio is ranked at 7th!!!! I was there for a week and was surprised to see NO ONE on the street for work at 10am. The city is pretty in some areas, but the place can hardly be considered a "city".

[MikeNigh]

Originally Posted by cafeguy

Those southern cities are crazy. Hell, San Antonio is ranked at 7th!!!! I was there for a week and was surprised to see NO ONE on the street for work at 10am. The city is pretty in some areas, but the place can hardly be considered a "city".

Pretty soon they'll just be entire states competing against philly.

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by MikeNigh

Pretty soon they'll just be entire states competing against philly.

If it would help, I'm sure Delaware County would cede Darby and environs to Philly.

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by Outta here

Ok , here's your dumb ass weekend history/population statistics lesson . In 1790 , Philadelphia
was the second largest city in the US . It feel to fourth place by the 1840 census ... but in 1860 it moved
back into second place behind NYC , which had occupied the top spot since it was referred to as New
Amsterdam . ( WHEW , glad the English changed that rather quickly ) . Then in 1890 Philly slipped to
third behind ...... well you know who and stayed there until 1960 when it was surpassed by LA . Then an
even bigger kick in the nuts came in 1990 when people with funny accents pushed ( the once number
two city ) to fifth on the list of biggest US cities . Phoenix is still hovering in sixth and shouldn't even be
considered for qualification do to the fact that it is a divided city with TWO separate down town locations .
........ That's my story , and I'm sticking to it ......

What happened was that in the 1850s Philadelphia city and Philadelphia county consolidated. If you look at the 1790 census, no fewer than three of the largest cities in the country (Philly, Germantown, Southwark IIRC) in the country were in Philadelphia County.

Essentially what happened was the first time a city was merged with its metropolitan area. An equivalent effect would be had if Philadelphia, Bucks, Montgomery, and Delaware counties all merged today.

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by Outta here

but in 1860 it moved
back into second place behind NYC , which had occupied the top spot since it was referred to as New
Amsterdam .

Actually New Amsterdam was never the largest city in America. In early colonial history Boston was the largest city, followed by New Amsterdam. As New Amsterdam became New York it remained in 2nd place until it was surpassed by Philadelphia in the early 18th century which then also surpassed Boston to become the largest city in America by the mid 18th century. Philadelphia remained the largest city through America's fight for independence, though by the time America took its first census in 1790 it had been surpassed by NYC. This is misleading though as then Philadelphia was ridiculously small (about 2 square miles) and didn't include Northern Liberties and Southwark which were actually among the 10 most populous cities in America in that 1790 census. Philadelphia remained the largest metro in America until the 1810 census when it was surpassed by New York and they've been America's largest ever since.

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

What happened was that in the 1850s Philadelphia city and Philadelphia county consolidated. If you look at the 1790 census, no fewer than three of the largest cities in the country (Philly, Germantown, Southwark IIRC) in the country were in Philadelphia County.

Essentially what happened was the first time a city was merged with its metropolitan area. An equivalent effect would be had if Philadelphia, Bucks, Montgomery, and Delaware counties all merged today.

There were actually four Philadelphia county cities that appeared in the top 10. Besides Philadelphia, it was Northern Liberties, Southwark and Spring Garden. Although they never appeared in top 10 all together. Northern Liberties and Southwark were in the top 10 for much of early American history while Spring Garden didn't show up until the 1850 census by which time Southwark had fallen out of the top ten. They would all be gone the next census due to the 1854 consolidation act you mentioned.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by allovertown

There were actually four Philadelphia county cities that appeared in the top 10. Besides Philadelphia, it was Northern Liberties, Southwark and Spring Garden. Although they never appeared in top 10 all together. Northern Liberties and Southwark were in the top 10 for much of early American history while Spring Garden didn't show up until the 1850 census by which time Southwark had fallen out of the top ten. They would all be gone the next census due to the 1854 consolidation act you mentioned.

you must get mad amounts of pussy.

[Outta here]

Ok , I will try to avoid a pissing contest with members here while simultaneously
attempting to fortify my delusional argument .......
IF , Philly had the same land mass as Phoenix ,.... i.e. all of Delaware and about half
of Montgomery County , the cities population would be up around 2,540,000 . As for
Boston vs New York ( New Amsterdam ) in the late 1700's ..... Shit man , I don't keep
canned goods for more than a month ..... but thanks for correcting my ancient history
candor . OMG , I wish I had come up with that pussy line .

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

you must get mad amounts of pussy.

You know it.

[volguus zildrohar]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

you must get mad amounts of pussy.

hahaha!!!

[SJBadger]

All the photos are gone in this thread. Just like the CITC thread.....

[kingtut]

Originally Posted by cafeguy

If we made Philly's borders 516 sq miles, how would our population compare to Pheonix? From my rough calculation, that would include areas in all directions 6 miles....bala cynwyd, cherry hill, camden, everything west of 295, king of prussia.

Those southern cities are crazy. Hell, San Antonio is ranked at 7th!!!! I was there for a week and was surprised to see NO ONE on the street for work at 10am. The city is pretty in some areas, but the place can hardly be considered a "city".

I read somewhere recently that so far this year Phoenix has a negative migration , but can't find it now.I did find a similar article ..http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2015/05/2...pulation-growth-latest-census-data-show/

[photoLith]

Freaking bad ass news that Philly is now a UNESCO World Heritage City.

[Boku]

http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/business&id=343266402

Brandywine Realty Trust is putting open space on a pedestal in University City. Literally.

The developer unveils Monday its Cira Green plaza, a 1.25-acre, publicly accessible expanse of grass and paved walkways atop a 95-foot-high parking structure just west of the Schuylkill.

Its opening marks the latest chapter in Brandywine's bid to remake a huge swath of central Philadelphia around 30th Street Station - an area bordering the campus of Drexel University up to the riverbanks opposite the Philadelphia Museum of Art - as the once-suburban company solidifies its urban presence.

A couple of interesting tidbits here:

The "30th Street Station District Plan" participants - which include Amtrak and Drexel, among others - are set to unveil in December their latest outline for what would be a dense new neighborhood of homes and offices over the yards, said Natalie Shieh, the plan's project director.

and:

That land sits next to 25,000 square feet owned by Brandywine behind 30th Street Station, where a Cira II had once been planned.

Is Cira II no longer in the plans?