Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 200

Stenar · #**3981** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 2:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Makid

As the deal is primarily with the acquisition of the properties, once the properties are acquired, I would be happy to state the location here.

I did look at the following:

http://slco.org/assessor/new/javaapi2/parcelviewext.cfm?parcel_ID=&query=Y

And the parcels still aren't showing as being owned by the same party.

Once they are, I think the information would be okay to release.

This seems like it would rule out the Zephyr site since that half block is all owned by David Bernolfo, which makes the 200 S 200 West corner more likely because Olafson II, LLC owns that entire corner, except the former Ginza building. Also, Olafson II was trying to get that land in consideration for the CCH (which would have been a terrible location), so they've already been interested in having a hotel there.

wrendog · #**3982** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 3:47 AM**

Where is the rendering of this new Marriott?

Makid · #**3983** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 3:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

A few questions:

What is APS? Arrow Press Square?

and what kind of work do you do that allows you access to all this good info?

And, what is the status of the DA offices? Have they gone through Design Review or permitted with the city yet? Any renderings?

APS is Arrow Press Square.

What I do and where I work, I will send in a PM.

I don't know the status of the DA offices other than they were approved to continue with the new building. Hopefully we will hear more about this project in the near future.

Makid · #**3984** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 4:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by wrendog

Where is the rendering of this new Marriott?

We discussed it earlier (a few months ago). I had mistakenly thought it would be the planned hotel directly to the west of the Holiday Inn Express (former Shilo).

I am not sure which page it is on

Makid · #**3985** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 4:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Paid surface lots, one building demolition, N Temple - 400 S, Main-400 W. These are the ones I can think of, small ones and big ones.

Zephyr (this is my guess)
Royal Wood Plaza
SE corner S. Temple/3rd W, Fidelity bldg directly east of VSA, adjacent to the Radisson Hotel
SW corner of 2nd/2nd, former Ginza.
Mouse lounge NW corner 2nd W/4th S.
Zions lot, demo of Dinwoody (least likely IMO)

The site is in this list. I can't provide anything more publicly until the information is fully cleared to be public.

airhero · #**3986** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 5:48 AM**

Just to bump up some renderings, I believe the following is a design for the hotel being discussed:

Also, the APS building is the one with the preliminary design that almost everyone hated, as seen below:

Orlando · #**3987** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 6:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

There was an idea to build a WTC there some day, but they've moved into Eagle Gate.

Actually, the WTC was to be on 200 and State. There were a pair of condo towers proposed at 400 and State. I think it was Wasatch or Hamilton the proposed it.

Palladio · #**3988** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by airhero

Just to bump up some renderings, I believe the following is a design for the hotel being discussed:

If I had to take a swing at where a hotel like this would be, my money would be on 300 West and 100 South, on the surface lot on the south east corner. Good distance from the salt palace and vivint arena, near other new development and no buildings torn down in the process.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7666169,-111.8989,204m/data=!3m1!1e3

Any other thoughts?

airhero · #**3989** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Palladio

If I had to take a swing at where a hotel like this would be, my money would be on 300 West and 100 South, on the surface lot on the south east corner. Good distance from the salt palace and vivint arena, near other new development and no buildings torn down in the process.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7666169,-111.8989,204m/data=!3m1!1e3

Any other thoughts?

Makid said a building would be torn down.

gusam26 · #**3990** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Palladio

If I had to take a swing at where a hotel like this would be, my money would be on 300 West and 100 South, on the surface lot on the south east corner. Good distance from the salt palace and vivint arena, near other new development and no buildings torn down in the process.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7666169,-111.8989,204m/data=!3m1!1e3

Any other thoughts?

My guess would be the Fidelity site, with vivint arena and the convention center next to it, also a trax station just about 100 feet away. Has this site been discarded for the CCH? Because this site would also be perfect for it.

Stenar · #**3991** Posted **Oct 31, 2015, 10:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by gusam26

My guess would be the Fidelity site, with vivint arena and the convention center next to it, also a trax station just about 100 feet away. Has this site been discarded for the CCH? Because this site would also be perfect for it.

Wouldn't that put this new Marriott hotel awfully close to the Marriott just built?

DMTower · #**3992** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 1:05 AM**

How about the SE corner of 200s 300w?

gusam26 · #**3993** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 3:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

Wouldn't that put this new Marriott hotel awfully close to the Marriott just built?

The 300 W 100 S site that was pointed out is a lot closer.

airhero · #**3994** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 4:00 AM**

If we're going to speculate, Makid already said the site is in the list that Future Mayor came up with and that it would remove a paid surface lot and require the demolition of at least one structure.

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Paid surface lots, one building demolition, N Temple - 400 S, Main-400 W. These are the ones I can think of, small ones and big ones.

Zephyr (this is my guess)
Royal Wood Plaza
SE corner S. Temple/3rd W, Fidelity bldg directly east of VSA, adjacent to the Radisson Hotel
SW corner of 2nd/2nd, former Ginza.
Mouse lounge NW corner 2nd W/4th S.
Zions lot, demo of Dinwoody (least likely IMO)

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Originally Posted by Makid

The site is in this list. I can't provide anything more publicly until the information is fully cleared to be public.

Stenar · #**3995** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 4:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by gusam26

The 300 W 100 S site that was pointed out is a lot closer.

They're both very close.

Stenar · #**3996** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by DMTower

How about the SE corner of 200s 300w?

That's owned entirely by the Greek Orthodox Church, which isn't going to sell that anytime soon. It also doesn't fit the criteria.

Orlando · #**3997** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 5:23 AM**

My guess is the RWP for the hotel that Makid referred to.

Future Mayor · #**3998** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

This seems like it would rule out the Zephyr site since that half block is all owned by David Bernolfo, which makes the 200 S 200 West corner more likely because Olafson II, LLC owns that entire corner, except the former Ginza building. Also, Olafson II was trying to get that land in consideration for the CCH (which would have been a terrible location), so they've already been interested in having a hotel there.

Good point on the ownership. A Hotel does make sense complete sense on the Ginza lot, I could even see one of substantial size going there. 500+ rooms.

DMTower · #**3999** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 7:29 PM**

The Ginza site is the wrong direction based on the rendering, unless the hotel faces east.

Future Mayor · #**4000** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 10:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by DMTower

The Ginza site is the wrong direction based on the rendering, unless the hotel faces east.

We are referring to the site that Makid has eluded to, that is in the works, but no information has been released. I believe the rendering is of the proposed hotel next the the Holiday Inn, Express (Shilo)