Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by s.p.hansen

This here should be framed and hung in the SLC Planning Division offices, and anywhere where there is hope for a better future.
Or where there is little hope for the future. Or....
SPHansen, I would charge for rights to this image.

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by s.p.hansen

They tore down eat-a burger and I didn't get to see it???? 😢

[Orlando]

Somebody requested to place all of the other proposed/under construction towers into the skyline. Here they are. blue = office; green/blue = hotel; tan = residential

[IMG]SLC 3 by brandinof, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]SLC 2 by brandinof, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]SLC 1 by brandinof, on Flickr[/IMG]

[Marvland]

Amazing work Orlando. Love seeing that massing from different angles. Within a few years, SLC will look almost nothing like it did just pre City Creek.

I was just looking at those images and wondering if they could possibly utilize BOTH parcels at the Salt Palace. One short tower and one tall or something like that?? Maybe I'm just getting greedy.

[Highrise_Mike]

Looks awesome Orlando! The locations of all these new towers will look great in the skyline and will fill in some gaps. Even though we don't have a signature 40 floor tower, I sure love seeing a higher density of towers in the skyline. Not to mention that more towers are being proposed off Main Street and expanding the skyline.

[delts145]

Thanks Orlando, Really enjoyed that post!

[scottharding]

Man, I really want 151 to happen. I just think that would be amazing for State Street, for our skyline, and for downtown's economy and vibrancy and street activity. I hope that Boyer is just waiting for 111 Main and the apartments on 2nd East to near finish and then they get the ball rolling.

Awesome Mock-up Orlando.

[jedikermit]

Thanks Orlando; great seeing it from so many different angles. Thank you.

Seeing it this way, I really want the Cascade to be taller than currently planned. If it every happens. I mean, I did before anyway, but now even more.

The Regent Hotel is going to bring even more vibrancy to Gallivan Plaza -- residents and guests coming down to the concerts and other events on a nightly basis, and Gallivan Plaza living up to it's potential as the "city's living room." It will also highlight the blighted surface lot/Carl's Jr, which is my next demolition target.

From this far out, the Zion's Bank surface lot doesn't bother me nearly as much, but from the street (where I should be looking) it's gotta go. Other gaps include the former DV8 and that whole east side of West Temple, although I don't think I'd want to see the single story brick structures on 100 S/West Temple go.

Also, either uncover and restore Dinwoody's (my first choice), or knock it down. Actually, no. Just uncover and restore it. We only have a few historic buildings left in this city. Bring it out.

#AnotherPostWhereISayObviousThingsThatAreObvious

[jedikermit]

...wasn't there a proposal at some point to build a tower on the surface lot at 400 S/State?

[Makid]

Orlando, thanks for plotting the locations and rough sizes.

Also, don't forget the new DA Offices on 4th South between Main and State behind the Matheson Courthouse.. I think that is supposed to be around 12 - 15 stories or so.

Also, I do have the location now of the previously unknown location for the new Marriott coming to the city (We have a render somewhere but the location was unknown). UTPlanner had said that he couldn't disclose the location because it was still in process. It is my understanding that the site has closed recently (Last couple of weeks). I do think people will like the location but until something is more public, the location will still be hidden as well. One thing that I can state about the location is that it does remove a surface parking lot.

Additionally, don't expect to hear something about the APS building until after the CCH is finalized.

Additionally, there is a good chance that there will be another fairly large hotel project added to the count in SLC in the next year or so. It again will come more into the light once the CCH is finalized. This is one that isn't on anyone's list yet.

And on that subject, CCH is getting better interest this time around than before. Hopefully that interest continues through the Dec. deadline for submissions.

Lastly: Yes, I do have more information and No, I can't provide it as it isn't public. Also, sorry for the generalities but this information does support the information that I provided previously about the hotel business and growth in SLC.

[jedikermit]

Thanks Makid. Sometimes when people say things like "I know X but I can't tell you about it" it bugs the — out of me. Somehow you manage to do it with enough comforting authority that it makes me feel better about life and this city and wow that Nyquil isn't wearing off and it's amost noon.

In any case. Thanks for the quasi-info. I'll take it.

[delts145]

Both the North and South site would serve the CCH well. Looking at Orlando's mockup though, I can feel comfortable in leaning toward the North site. That is, if the Center is designed correctly. I would be surprised if the power of CCC doesn't pull the CCH to the north site.

Mockup By Orlando

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by Makid

Orlando, thanks for plotting the locations and rough sizes.

Also, don't forget the new DA Offices on 4th South between Main and State behind the Matheson Courthouse.. I think that is supposed to be around 12 - 15 stories or so.

Also, I do have the location now of the previously unknown location for the new Marriott coming to the city (We have a render somewhere but the location was unknown). UTPlanner had said that he couldn't disclose the location because it was still in process. It is my understanding that the site has closed recently (Last couple of weeks). I do think people will like the location but until something is more public, the location will still be hidden as well. One thing that I can state about the location is that it does remove a surface parking lot.

Additionally, don't expect to hear something about the APS building until after the CCH is finalized.

Additionally, there is a good chance that there will be another fairly large hotel project added to the count in SLC in the next year or so. It again will come more into the light once the CCH is finalized. This is one that isn't on anyone's list yet.

And on that subject, CCH is getting better interest this time around than before. Hopefully that interest continues through the Dec. deadline for submissions.

Lastly: Yes, I do have more information and No, I can't provide it as it isn't public. Also, sorry for the generalities but this information does support the information that I provided previously about the hotel business and growth in SLC.

Please be Carl's Jr.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

...wasn't there a proposal at some point to build a tower on the surface lot at 400 S/State?

There was an idea to build a WTC there some day, but they've moved into Eagle Gate.

[Makid]

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

Please be Carl's Jr.

It isn't Carl's Jr. It would require some demolition of at least 1 building but it will be removing a paid parking lot as well.

It is also West of Main Street, East of 4th West, South of North Temple and North of 4th South.

While this does reduce the number of locations, it still isn't listing the exact location.

Sadly, that is as much of a reference that I can provide without getting into to much specifics and I don't want to cause any problems by stating the location until things are more public than they currently are.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Makid

It isn't Carl's Jr. It would require some demolition of at least 1 building but it will be removing a paid parking lot as well.

It is also West of Main Street, East of 4th West, South of North Temple and North of 4th South.

While this does reduce the number of locations, it still isn't listing the exact location.

Sadly, that is as much of a reference that I can provide without getting into to much specifics and I don't want to cause any problems by stating the location until things are more public than they currently are.

The big parking lot block between north and south temple is my hope.

[Stenar]

The Zephyr???

Originally Posted by Makid

It isn't Carl's Jr. It would require some demolition of at least 1 building but it will be removing a paid parking lot as well.

It is also West of Main Street, East of 4th West, South of North Temple and North of 4th South.

While this does reduce the number of locations, it still isn't listing the exact location.

Sadly, that is as much of a reference that I can provide without getting into to much specifics and I don't want to cause any problems by stating the location until things are more public than they currently are.

[Makid]

Originally Posted by Stenar

The Zephyr???

While as much as I would like to state an answer, by stating yes or no to the location would be in itself me stating the location.

I think we will hear more about this in the coming weeks.

As the deal is primarily with the acquisition of the properties, once the properties are acquired, I would be happy to state the location here.

I did look at the following:

http://slco.org/assessor/new/javaapi2/parcelviewext.cfm?parcel_ID=&query=Y

And the parcels still aren't showing as being owned by the same party.

Once they are, I think the information would be okay to release. UTPlanner may know better though and I would be okay to go by their judgement on this as there may be extenuating circumstances that I don't know about and wasn't relayed to me.

[Future Mayor]

Paid surface lots, one building demolition, N Temple - 400 S, Main-400 W. These are the ones I can think of, small ones and big ones.

Zephyr (this is my guess)
Royal Wood Plaza
SE corner S. Temple/3rd W, Fidelity bldg directly east of VSA, adjacent to the Radisson Hotel
SW corner of 2nd/2nd, former Ginza.
Mouse lounge NW corner 2nd W/4th S.
Zions lot, demo of Dinwoody (least likely IMO)

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Makid

Orlando, thanks for plotting the locations and rough sizes.

Also, don't forget the new DA Offices on 4th South between Main and State behind the Matheson Courthouse.. I think that is supposed to be around 12 - 15 stories or so.

Also, I do have the location now of the previously unknown location for the new Marriott coming to the city (We have a render somewhere but the location was unknown). UTPlanner had said that he couldn't disclose the location because it was still in process. It is my understanding that the site has closed recently (Last couple of weeks). I do think people will like the location but until something is more public, the location will still be hidden as well. One thing that I can state about the location is that it does remove a surface parking lot.

Additionally, don't expect to hear something about the APS building until after the CCH is finalized.

Additionally, there is a good chance that there will be another fairly large hotel project added to the count in SLC in the next year or so. It again will come more into the light once the CCH is finalized. This is one that isn't on anyone's list yet.

And on that subject, CCH is getting better interest this time around than before. Hopefully that interest continues through the Dec. deadline for submissions.

Lastly: Yes, I do have more information and No, I can't provide it as it isn't public. Also, sorry for the generalities but this information does support the information that I provided previously about the hotel business and growth in SLC.

A few questions:

What is APS? Arrow Press Square?

and what kind of work do you do that allows you access to all this good info?

And, what is the status of the DA offices? Have they gone through Design Review or permitted with the city yet? Any renderings?