Calgary Public Transit II - Page 494

RicoLance21 · #**9861** Posted **Oct 18, 2015, 10:49 PM**

I spotted and rode a 4-car C-Train today.

holhm22 · #**9862** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 10:00 PM**

Saw both of the 4 car trains today. One in the morning and the other one in the afternoon.

suburbia · #**9863** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 10:16 PM**

I saw a c-train today.

DizzyEdge · #**9864** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 10:41 PM**

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I saw a c-train today.

Happy 3000th post

Calgarian · #**9865** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 5:50 PM**

So what's the plan for the 4 car trains? are they just going to do 2 a day for now, or are they just using this to test everything before a full roll out?

You Need A Thneed · #**9866** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

So what's the plan for the 4 car trains? are they just going to do 2 a day for now, or are they just using this to test everything before a full roll out?

What they are doing currently is giving LRT drivers training, and perhaps checking for any bugs.

They can't start ramping up the 4 car train service until the new S200's start arriving, Which was originally supposed to start in August 2015, but now is later this year.

Calgarian · #**9867** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

What they are doing currently is giving LRT drivers training, and perhaps checking for any bugs.

They can't start ramping up the 4 car train service until the new S200's start arriving, Which was originally supposed to start in August 2015, but now is later this year.

OK thanks.

CorporateWhore · #**9868** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 8:33 PM**

Btw, what kind of layout will they have in the new trains? I'm really hoping it's not the row-seating (ie not unlike what you get in the current trains), but instead the perimeter seats you get in places like NYC. You can pack way more people with the perimeter style.

Calgarian · #**9869** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 9:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

Btw, what kind of layout will they have in the new trains? I'm really hoping it's not the row-seating (ie not unlike what you get in the current trains), but instead the perimeter seats you get in places like NYC. You can pack way more people with the perimeter style.

I googled the S200 and the results showed the setup for Calgary trains. Seating looks to be like the NYC setup.

Wooster · #**9870** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 10:01 PM**

^ Yes, and going back to flat bench rather than (apparently too tight) buckets.

Socguy · #**9871** Posted **Oct 28, 2015, 12:06 AM**

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^ Yes, and going back to flat bench rather than (apparently too tight) buckets.

It's 'cause we have big bums!

But seriously. I hated the buckets because they often forced you to sit right next to someone instead of the more natural solution of dividing the distance between two people in half.

I'm excited for the new seating layouts. If I recall correctly, they have the new style along-the-wall seating but at each end of a car they have the original 2 seats facing one and other. Throw in the beach seating and I bet we've got a winner!

Chadillaccc · #**9872** Posted **Oct 28, 2015, 3:10 AM**

Didn't realize the city added 3 more LRVs to our order for a total of 63. I wonder why the city didn't add 4 to our order and just make it one more full train for a total of 16.

Here is the interior...

and the livery model chosen...

holhm22 · #**9873** Posted **Oct 28, 2015, 3:35 AM**

I still don't get how the mask got chosen. Everyone on this forum disliked it the most, including me. I think what I liked was called "The Buffalo".
And that red interior... blehh.

CorporateWhore · #**9874** Posted **Oct 28, 2015, 3:46 AM**

Glad to see they went with perimeter seats AND flat benches. That's definitely the best setup for sardine-can rush hours when you need to pack em in as much as possible.

The burgundy interior on those renderings does look a little blah though.

para transit fellow · #**9875** Posted **Oct 28, 2015, 3:54 PM**

this collection of YouTube videos is a bit wild as they were recorded on an electric bus in Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLms0jAVAM8WSFHV-epNemd74kI7xrEEbb

Note: No background engine roar

UofC.engineer · #**9876** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 2:34 PM**

Thank you so much for sharing this info!

I still don't understand why a transit stop at Mount Royal is needed? The 306 BRT already serves MRU and students/workers travelling from Woodbine to Mount Royal area can just transfer at the Heritage station.

CalgaryAlex · #**9877** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 2:52 PM**

Thanks for the detailed report, 5seconds!

I like the plan, and am happy that there are proper stations (not just "stops") along the route which will increase comfort for users. I'm also fairly happy with the spacing between stations. I hope CT adjusts other bus routes around this BRT line so the stations become transit hubs of a sort.

The concerns you mention (particularly from the possibly violent Eagle Ridge resident - wow!) seem to be rather entitled "me first" complaints focused on their trip times on 14th St. However, I don't think any of those complains hold water if 14th St will essentially have the same capacity. It's like they didn't read the boards and think 14th St is turning into a big 7th Ave transit-only corridor!

CBC posted an article regarding the open house, in which they quote one woman as saying this will make 14th St "more dangerous"... no elaboration was given

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/southwest-transitway-public-consultation-1.3295784

fusili · #**9878** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 4:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by UofC.engineer

Thank you so much for sharing this info!

I still don't understand why a transit stop at Mount Royal is needed? The 306 BRT already serves MRU and students/workers travelling from Woodbine to Mount Royal area can just transfer at the Heritage station.

Really? The largest destination other than downtown on this route shouldn't get a stop? Consider the following origins that would use this BRT to access MRU:

- All NW LRT users transferring from downtown (faster than transferring to the blue line and then the 306)
- All NC LRT users transferring from downtown (see above)
- All people originating from the SW communities of Palliser, Cedarbrae, Braeside, Woodbine (these are not served by the 306- it heads east at Heritage)

MalcolmTucker · #**9879** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 4:23 PM**

The infrastructure will speed up the Heritage - MRU routes as well.

UofC.engineer · #**9880** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by fusili

Really? The largest destination other than downtown on this route shouldn't get a stop? Consider the following origins that would use this BRT to access MRU:

- All NW LRT users transferring from downtown (faster than transferring to the blue line and then the 306)
- All NC LRT users transferring from downtown (see above)
- All people originating from the SW communities of Palliser, Cedarbrae, Braeside, Woodbine (these are not served by the 306- it heads east at Heritage)

All of these are excellent points. I know you are a transit/urban planning guru of sorts and I'm probably going to lose this argument, but what I'm trying to say is. How much longer would it take to go through MRU as opposed to going straight up Crowchild? I think for the BRT to be successful the service from Woodbine to DT needs to be more attractive to an office worker than taking the LRT in the morning.