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Old Posted Oct 19, 2015, 5:57 AM
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Westbank has submitted a rezoning application for their planned rental tower beside Joyce-Collingwood Station. Looks like it's been reduced in height a bit, to 29 storeys. I think they planned 37 floors initially, at their open house?
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/5050-5080joyce/index.htm

"Still Creek Negative" (West Facade)

http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ons/5050-5080joyce/documents/3dviews.pdf


http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ons/5050-5080joyce/documents/3dviews.pdf

The west facade again, but this time with the public art included.

http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ons/5050-5080joyce/documents/3dviews.pdf

"Still Creek Positive" (East Facade)

http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ons/5050-5080joyce/documents/3dviews.pdf


http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ons/5050-5080joyce/documents/3dviews.pdf

The east facade again, but this time with the public art included.

http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ons/5050-5080joyce/documents/3dviews.pdf
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2015, 3:22 PM
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There are very few developers in town that could add coloured balcony-glass to an otherwise drab rezoning proposal (at a density of 14 FSR no less) and pass it off as a "public art" benefit to justify such an ambitious rezoning.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2015, 9:15 PM
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I fail to see how coloured balcony glass can be considered "Public Art". If the city wants to consider architectural excellent as "Public Art" then that is one thing, but I don't think this example would meet that definition.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 5:25 AM
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I love Westbank, but this has to be the most extreme proposal they're getting away with. 14.0 FSR way outside downtown, and balcony railings as public art.

Obviously the city should allow these densities anywhere the market can bear, but the current practice of picking and choosing favored developers (also looking at Wall) makes a mockery out of the rule of law and institutional impartiality.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 6:39 AM
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Despite agreeing with the above, and the reduction in height, this should be good inventory for the area and keep rents to some of the most reasonable in Vancouver proper for new-ish inventory. It doesn't look like the ground floor will be retail, will it?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 7:29 AM
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I am all for this proposal. Exactly the kind of density that should be at most stations, and above average design.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 6:32 PM
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Also agree that this is appropriate for the site. It's right beside a SkyTrain station and in the vicinity of many other towers in Joyce-Collingwood neighbourhood. The aggregate FAR of those are low because of the extensive outdoor public space and landscaping. Were one to drop down to just the tower parcel boundaries and their FAR would shoot way up and start being in the same general vicinity as the Westbank proposal.

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 9:31 PM
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From GBL Twitter -

Project at Kingsway & King Edward (Oct 8, 2015):


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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 10:09 PM
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Wow look at that shit hole to the left. Ah classic Kingsway
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2015, 5:45 AM
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Vancouver wants parking cut around Expo stations

Reporter Stefania Seccia
By Stefania Seccia, 24 hours
Tuesday, October 20, 2015 5:19:42 PDT PM


The City of Vancouver is hoping a simple reduction in parking stall requirements for eight properties along the Expo Line will spark transit-oriented, multi-family residential housing that’s been slow to develop in the last 25 years.

Kent Munro, general manager of planning and development services, said requiring less parking on sites where the Expo Line cuts through would support future transit-oriented development.

“These are sites that are irregular-shaped sites rezoned 25 years ago when the SkyTrain line originally went through,” he said. “In those days, we used to write the parking requirements into every single bylaw. It set the standard for parking at what it was 25 years ago.”

The sites near the Nanaimo and 29th Avenue stations have not seen the growth envisioned for the area, according to Munro, which is zoned for multi-family development. Apartments and stacked townhouses permitted on those sites have been slow to build — and the blame is being put on the requirement for as many as two spaces for each dwelling unit.

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The rezoning amendment was referred to public hearing by council at its Tuesday meeting.
From: http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2015/10/20/vancouver-wants-parking-cut-around-expo-stations
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2015, 5:49 AM
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Has the area around those 2 stations been zoned for apartments and town-houses for the last 25 years? I thought those zoning changes only happened recently ith the Norquay village plan.

Edit - I see which properties they're talking about. Forget the easing of the parking requirements, increase the density.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2015, 6:52 AM
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Wow look at that shit hole to the left. Ah classic Kingsway
That place has always stood out to me as particularly grimy
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2015, 2:46 PM
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Here's the zoning for the area around Nanaimo (the star in the top left) and 29th Avenue (bottom right):



Yellow = One-family homes or duplexes
Orange = Comprehensive Development districts (the ones around the stations might have parking requirements cut)
Green = Commercial
Blue = Multifamily housing
Grey = Parks

If the city was serious about encouraging transit-oriented development they would allow apartments on more than a tiny fraction of the land around those stations. Cutting parking requirements on a few plots of land is nice, but it's a tiny improvement.

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Old Posted Oct 22, 2015, 3:36 PM
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One of the many reasons the Nanaimo station area has been slow to develop is -- there are no shops nearby.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 8:23 AM
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See my post here regarding 29th Ave. Station and Nanaimo Station area zoning:

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There used to be (i.e. following the opening of the Expo Line and in through the 1990s) a policy of the City not to rezone simply because of proximity to SkyTrain stations - I had seen it referenced in Council Minutes from the 1990s. That has only recently changed due to the Canada Line with precinct-wide rezonings. That's also the reason there are so many empty lots near Nanaimo Station - remember how old the Expo Line is - property prices were not sky-high when that line was built - so what else was preventing redevelopment? The City.

The City hasn't entertained the idea of up-zoning areas such as Broadway & Commercial until recently - and even then, that's on the Safeway site, not existing single family parcels. The Transit Village concept for the Broadway & Commercial precinct does not contemplate up-zoning single family housing on a precinct wide basis (which would allow developers to onsolidate lands without it being a case by case crap shoot as to whether rezoning would be allowed).

Found this article on transit-oriented development on a Google search:

http://www.istp.murdoch.edu.au/ISTP/casestudies/Case_Studies_Asia/canadian/canadian.html

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A community-based process

Generally, the zoning in Vancouver has resulted from a planning process which has a long tradition of community involvement. Redevelopment is a sensitive issue anywhere in the world and particular efforts have been made by local authorities in Vancouver to consult with the mostly single-family housing areas to be affected by the changes.

For example, in the City of Vancouver, local area strategies were designed for residents and businesses located within a ten minute or 800m walk of stations. This was done through public meetings and the establishment of local advisory committees (City of Vancouver, 1987b).

The plans for intensifying development were pursued with the following specific aims and were supported by a series of specific strategies. The aims were to:

Provide new housing within station precincts without compromising the quality of life for existing residents;
Create sub-centers with diversity and character;
Encourage medium density residential development;
Encourage commercial, mixed use development;
Increase train patronage;
Reduce the impacts of rail generated traffic and parking problems (eg through enhancing the pedestrian environment);
Update facilities required to house future population increases such as parks and libraries;
(City of Vancouver, 1987a; City of Vancouver, 1987b; City of Vancouver, 1987c).

An important aspect of these local area strategies was that general, widespread redevelopment within the station precincts was not undertaken. Rather, development was concentrated on publicly owned vacant sites, land severely impacted by the rail system and under-utilised or derelict land (City of Vancouver, 1987a). Construction on only these land types helped to reduce community fears that the development was out of character for the local area and that re-development within the station precincts would compromise existing lifestyles.
Note the references for that article:.

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City of Vancouver (1987a) Broadway Station area plan: Summary. City of Vancouver Planning Department, Vancouver.

City of Vancouver (1987b) Joyce Station area plan: Summary. City of Vancouver Planning Department, Vancouver.

City of Vancouver (1987c) Nanaimo/29th Avenue Station areas Plan: Summary. City of Vancouver Planning Department, Vancouver.
Here are two of them:

Broadway Station Area Plan Summary 1987
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/guidelines/B020.pdf

Nanaimo/29th Avenue Station Areas Plan Summary 1987
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/guidelines/N003.pdf


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Broadway Station Area Plan

The preamble includes a tidbit about how CoV wanted to cut and cover (!!) under Commercial Drive ($14 million) but the Province didn't want to - talks broke down and the line ended up in the alley where it is today (and was never approved by the City of Vancouver along that segment).

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The Plan also tells a story that should not be quickly forgotten. It is the story of a community's fight to overcome the physical reality of ALRT in its midst.
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Nanaimo/29th Avenue Station Areas Plan

Under the heading "New Development Opportunities" this plan identifies the only sites tht would be allowed to up-zone to multi-family:

Maybe someone would like to compare the recommended sites with those that have actually been developed.
I think only sites 'G' (partially developed) and site 'P' have been developed. A satellite view on Google Maps shows many of the sites as vacant land and many still having single family homes.

Quote:
"Through discussion with the Nanaimo/29th Avenue Station Areas Planning Advisory Committee, it was agreed that wholesale redevelopment was not desirable but that residential development should be directed to sites meeting the following criteria:
- vacant city-owned sites
- sites severely impacted by ALRT
- sites zoned for uses other than residential
- sites either under-utilized or containing derelict properties.

... 21 sites were identified aong the ALRT alignment ...
... community input was received ...
Straw votes were held to determine resident support or opposition to redevelopment.
The sites recommended for rezoning and redevelopment in this chapter are the result of this process.
...
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I also found the following CD-1 Rezoning bylaws, which requires multi-family housing to be compatible with existing single family houses:

29TH AVENUE STATION AREA - CD-1 GUIDELINES
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/guidelines/CD-1/T003.pdf

NANAIMO STATION AREA - CD-1 GUIDELINES
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/guidelines/CD-1/N001.pdf

This is the large apartment complex next to Nanaimo Station:
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/guidelines/CD-1/N002.pdf

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Even the 2001 rezoning for the Broadway & Commercial area when the Millennium Line was built does not impose the precinct wide increases in density that are currently being proposed for the Canada Line precincts.
In 2001, the amended zoning bylaws provided for conditional zoning with height limits to be raised to a maximum of 18.4 metres but only immediately adjacent to the station.

http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/010802/pe7.htm
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 4:12 PM
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^That's amazing, thank you officedweller. Bookmarked.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 10:49 PM
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I added the "former" to those URLs so that they work in the quote above.
They won't work in the original post.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 11:43 PM
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A big erection today on the Spot!



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Old Posted Oct 25, 2015, 1:04 AM
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Man that erection sure hit the spot !!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2015, 1:14 AM
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[QUOTE=mcminsen;7210612]A big erection today on the Spot!

Did you happen to notice whats going on with the large podium section on cambie of the plaza 500 hotel? I wonder if the commercial space will be maintained or converted to market rentals aswell. I noticed the tower has all new windows now and the front entrance was all stripped out the last time I was there.
     
     
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