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Old Posted Oct 22, 2015, 11:58 PM
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Scratch these two. Qatar only serves YUL and Transaero ending service in December. That's still an impressive list of 30!

YYZ 30
YVR 22 (subject to Hainan and Xiamen confirming of course).
YUL 15
YYC 4
YHZ 3
YEG 2
Re: Doha, right you are, must have carried it over from YUL.

Didn't know about Transaero, that's kinda surprising it's getting dropped, there are a decent amount of wealthy Russians in Toronto, I figured it was a decent route.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 12:01 AM
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I've updated the list based on Johnny's input and added non-alliance carriers as well. A pretty strong list I must say.


http://i.imgur.com/LKfThHb.png

One interesting thing I noted while doing this list, we don't have any summer 767s anymore except Rouge and those rickety old beasts WestJet just bought. The year of the Dreamliner really played out!

I'd imagine we still see the odd 767 during the winter, but I can't think of who still sends them.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 12:47 AM
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Re: Doha, right you are, must have carried it over from YUL.

Didn't know about Transaero, that's kinda surprising it's getting dropped, there are a decent amount of wealthy Russians in Toronto, I figured it was a decent route.
Transaero had gone bankrupt and will cease all service in December.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 1:04 AM
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Great list Thx!!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 1:57 PM
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^^^ Well if Toronto has 30 and Vancouver 22 then YVR is definitely punching above its weight!
I actually count 17 for Vancouver (19 if you include Hainan and Xiamen) and 32 for YYZ.

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

Still, YVR punches above its weight, no question about that.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 6:00 PM
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I actually count 17 for Vancouver (19 if you include Hainan and Xiamen) and 32 for YYZ.

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

Still, YVR punches above its weight, no question about that.
I'm not sure how you count 17 when LeftCoaster's list clearly displays 23 non-Canadian carriers...remember, it's a list for next summer, so it includes seasonal.
     
     
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I know they just serve US destinations each from Vancouver, but should Alaska Airlines and National Airlines be added to the matrix?
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 7:45 PM
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YVR is going to get its first A380 full-double-deck aircraft next year!

And it's going to be a British Airways.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 9:26 PM
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I know they just serve US destinations each from Vancouver, but should Alaska Airlines and National Airlines be added to the matrix?
I think perhaps it's valid to add Alaska Airlines. As for National Airlines: technically yes, but, in a regular airlines list, not really.


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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 9:49 PM
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I'm not sure how you count 17 when LeftCoaster's list clearly displays 23 non-Canadian carriers...remember, it's a list for next summer, so it includes seasonal.
I only did international (non-U.S.) carriers.
If you include U.S. then YYZ would be at 35 (removing Transaero and adding WOW) and YVR would be up to 24 if you include Xiamen, Hainan, and National.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 10:46 PM
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I actually count 17 for Vancouver (19 if you include Hainan and Xiamen) and 32 for YYZ.

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

http://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airports/toronto-pearson-international-airport-yyz

Still, YVR punches above its weight, no question about that.
That list is missing:
-Qantas
-Hainan
-Xiamen
-Condor
-Aeromexico

So that would take YVR from your 17 up to 21, or 22 if you include Aeromexico.

Here's the full list, stars denote seasonal only service.

1 Lufthansa
2 KLM
3 Edelweiss*
4 China Airlines
5 Iceland Air*
6 Air New Zealand
7 ANA
8 China Southern
9 Sichuan Airlines
10 Philippine Airlines
11 Xiamen Airlines
12 Hainan Airlines
13 Japan Airlines
14 Korean Airlines
15 British Airways
16 Condor*
17 Air China
18 Cathay Pacific
19 China Eastern
20 Eva Air
21 Qantas*
22 Aeromexico
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2015, 10:50 PM
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Here's the list for YYZ, showing 29 intercontinental, 32 including Copa, Aeromexico and Cubana:

1 SATA Intl
2 Air France
3 Aer Lingus
4 Iceland Air
5 PIA
6 LOT
7 Austrian
8 Avianca
9 Egyptair
10 Ethopian
11 Ethiad
12 Eva Air
13 Finnair*
14 Korean Air
15 Jet Airways
16 Philippine
17 Saudia
18 British Airways
19 Lufthansa
20 KLM
21 Hainan Airlines
22 Emirates
23 TAM Airlines
24 China Eastern
25 El Al
26 Alitalia
27 WOW Air
28 Cathay Pacific
29 Turkish
30 Copa
31 Aeromexico
32 Cubana

Don't know why everyone is talking about including US carriers, that was never the intent.
     
     
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That list is missing:
-Qantas
-Hainan
-Xiamen
-Condor
-Aeromexico

So that would take YVR from your 17 up to 21, or 22 if you include Aeromexico.

Here's the full list, stars denote seasonal only service.

1 Lufthansa
2 KLM
3 Edelweiss*
4 China Airlines
5 Iceland Air*
6 Air New Zealand
7 ANA
8 China Southern
9 Sichuan Airlines
10 Philippine Airlines
11 Xiamen Airlines
12 Hainan Airlines
13 Japan Airlines
14 Korean Airlines
15 British Airways
16 Condor*
17 Air China
18 Cathay Pacific
19 China Eastern
20 Eva Air
21 Qantas*
22 Aeromexico
Missing Air France! There is your #23... GAME SET MATCH!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 12:13 AM
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Missing Air France! There is your #23... GAME SET MATCH!
Right you are!

Here it is in alphabetical order just because that's easier.

1 Aeromexico
2 Air China
3 Air France
4 Air New Zealand
5 ANA
6 British Airways
7 Cathay Pacific
8 China Airlines
9 China Eastern
10 China Southern
11 Condor*
12 Edelweiss*
13 Eva Air
14 Hainan Airlines
15 Iceland Air*
16 Japan Airlines
17 KLM
18 Korean Airlines
19 Lufthansa
20 Philippine Airlines
21 Qantas*
22 Sichuan Airlines
23 Xiamen Airlines
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 2:15 AM
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Anyone got the time to put together the short list of airlines YVR has but YYZ doesn't? Too lazy right now...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 2:43 AM
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Anyone got the time to put together the short list of airlines YVR has but YYZ doesn't? Too lazy right now...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_International_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Pearson_International_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations

According to this YVR has:
Air China, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, ANA, China Airlines, China Southern, Edelweiss Air, Qantas; /- that YYZ does not.
     
     
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Add JAL, Sichuan and (most likely) Xiamen.

So a total of 10... sticking with the non North American path.

*****

Also... let's keep going with this....

Just down the road at Sea-Tac... they have a total of ten overseas carriers.

Of the ten, eight also fly to YVR (assuming Hainan does launch YVR as well).

Only Emirates and Asiana fly to SEA and not YVR.

YVR is also on Asiana's radar too.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 3:49 AM
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Add JAL, Sichuan and (most likely) Xiamen.

So a total of 10... sticking with the non North American path.

*****

Also... let's keep going with this....

Just down the road at Sea-Tac... they have a total of ten overseas carriers.

Of the ten, eight also fly to YVR (assuming Hainan does launch YVR as well).

Only Emirates and Asiana fly to SEA and not YVR.

YVR is also on Asiana's radar too.
Asiana would be good, I suppose. We don't really need Emirates; it's DIRECTLY over the pole longitudinally, and not really convenient anywhere from YVR.
Istanbul (Turkish) would be a good one to have for all our Mideast /Balkan / Eastern Mediterranean needs.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 7:56 AM
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Great lists. Extra points to LeftCoaster

As to not needing Emirates, I agree as it allows more airlines to come here. Due to DBX having connections to every major hub, it will steal traffic from BA and may result in BA pulling their A380 But if they decide to bring an A380 of their own, I wouldn't complain. But that is highly doubtful.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2015, 1:33 PM
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Possible merger in China...

http://www.wcarn.com/news/48/48219.html

As far as I'm concerned, all these Chinese airlines (flying to YVR) are one and the same. All government owned anyways except for HU (which doesn't fly to YVR). Competition in China is a myth.

BTW, adding airlines only rumored to start a route to these lists is pretty nonsensical. How about we stick to confirmed routes (with official launch dates), to paint an accurate picture.

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