Winnipeg Construction VIII - Page 371

emeraldeyes · #**7401** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 3:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Labroco

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They are not asking for a demo permit but just that the building not be designated.

From the article on CBC site:

The owner had wanted it demolished.

"In other words, the building is beyond repair and placing any impediment to demolition and redeveloping the site would be economically unfeasible and a disservice to the community," he wrote.

While it is true he was not technically asking for the demo permit, it would certainly seem to be meant as the first step in the process.

Kirk · #**7402** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 6:16 PM**

Does anyone know what's going on with the Manitoba Housing units on River and Mayfair that are currently being demolished?

1ajs · #**7403** Posted **Oct 17, 2015, 9:39 PM**

fortune block should be demolished and rebuilt as a skin with fetures from the interiro reinstalled in parts like some beams and tin simlar to what they did at rrc theres a bunch of buildings we should do this with but no one wants to

rrskylar · #**7404** Posted **Oct 17, 2015, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1ajs

fortune block should be demolished and rebuilt as a skin with fetures from the interiro reinstalled in parts like some beams and tin simlar to what they did at rrc theres a bunch of buildings we should do this with but no one wants to

In certain situations keeping the facade works like at RRC but sometimes it's a complete disaster and looks worse than if it was all just all new build: the Alt hotel!

1ajs · #**7405** Posted **Oct 17, 2015, 10:10 PM**

i know. but when u look at what was left of michel cop it was just a shell

Riverman · #**7406** Posted **Oct 18, 2015, 1:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by 1ajs

fortune block should be demolished and rebuilt as a skin with fetures from the interiro reinstalled in parts like some beams and tin simlar to what they did at rrc theres a bunch of buildings we should do this with but no one wants to

The only way this is possible is if the developer has a bottomless pit of money. You know, taxpayer money.

Labroco · #**7407** Posted **Oct 18, 2015, 5:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

The only way this is possible is if the developer has a bottomless pit of money. You know, taxpayer money.

Instead of building facadism lets work towards better contextual architecture in the city centre. Explorative vanity driven projects find themselves dated and falling apart after one or two Winnipeg winters.

I for one still love brick and stone when ever possible.

Let's link any demolition to a great development permit and huge performance bond or letter of credit. No more "temporary" or illegal parking lots down town. That includes the Carlton Inn site.

The Unknown Poster · #**7408** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 1:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by cllew

Has to be something radical going in to take the building right down to the ground.

If I recall properly when the Wendy's on Henderson closed the building was kept more or less intact and renovated into the Starbucks and sun tan place

Speaking of, the Wendy's on Pembina near Pier 7 is still vacant last I drove by.

Supposedly Pizza Hut in Ft Richmond is moving into the strip mall on Plaza Dr.

Authentic_City · #**7409** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 7:27 PM**

Recent UFO sightings:

'UFO' condo has drivers doing double takes on Disraeli Overpass
40-suite condo stands 12 metres off the ground on concrete stilts

By Christopher Read, CBC News Posted: Oct 19, 2015 5:00 AM CT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/u...ble-takes-on-disraeli-overpass-1.3277315

cllew · #**7410** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 9:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Speaking of, the Wendy's on Pembina near Pier 7 is still vacant last I drove by.

Supposedly Pizza Hut in Ft Richmond is moving into the strip mall on Plaza Dr.

Wasn't there something in the Free Press a few months ago about the owner of the Pony Corral buying the land for more parking .

buzzg · #**7411** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Authentic_City

Recent UFO sightings:

'UFO' condo has drivers doing double takes on Disraeli Overpass
40-suite condo stands 12 metres off the ground on concrete stilts

By Christopher Read, CBC News Posted: Oct 19, 2015 5:00 AM CT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/u...ble-takes-on-disraeli-overpass-1.3277315

Anyone seen an updated render with the penthouse/cube on the roof? I'm confuse how that would work, yet the centre remains open-air. Also weary that it would ruin the look of the whole building.

cheswick · #**7412** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

Anyone seen an updated render with the penthouse/cube on the roof? I'm confuse how that would work, yet the centre remains open-air. Also weary that it would ruin the look of the whole building.

There are a few cross sectional views here http://www.5468796.ca/#62m

buzzg · #**7413** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by cheswick

There are a few cross sectional views here http://www.5468796.ca/#62m

Those don't have the penthouse in them, that's just the top of the elevator shaft and stairs.

Andy6 · #**7414** Posted **Oct 19, 2015, 11:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Labroco

While I am an advocate of strong consistent heritage laws and enforcement one had to ask why is designation on this property happening right now and not 20 years ago if it's important? It's not as if it's in the exchange district and one can argue there is a need to preserve the character or street scape of the area.

In my opinion it is important to save every old building, with only the odd exception (into which class the Fortune Block certainly doesn't fall). I can't think of many examples of demolitions that haven't made things worse, from the loss of the beautiful Childs and Nanton buildings for the unneeded TD Centre to the destruction of the McIntyre Block for a temporary parking lot that's now coming up to its 40th birthday. I understand your point, but let's not knock more things down before we know for sure that there is absolutely no option.

Labroco · #**7415** Posted **Oct 20, 2015, 1:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Andy6

In my opinion it is important to save every old building, with only the odd exception (into which class the Fortune Block certainly doesn't fall). I can't think of many examples of demolitions that haven't made things worse, from the loss of the beautiful Childs and Nanton buildings for the unneeded TD Centre to the destruction of the McIntyre Block for a temporary parking lot that's now coming up to its 40th birthday. I understand your point, but let's not knock more things down before we know for sure that there is absolutely no option.

Well, speaking of the Child's and Nanton Bldgs, I'm touching a piece of it's terra cotta right now and actually have the capitals of the Nanton in the basement of one of my buildings! The marble bathroom stalls from the Child's I had made into a beautiful table for my board room...

I forgot all about that!

It's very easy for others to tell people to spend money they may not have to fix a building they cannot rent. That's the case for the Fortune bldg. The owner I'm sure will be happy to sell it to anyone of you who may wish to renovate it. Sadly there have been no takers for over twenty years.

As I have said before, rules must be consistent and transparent to stimulate new developments in the city. I see everyday optimistic businesses crushed by the amount of time it takes to get a building permit and the heavy handed approach by the building and planning department....

Insist on a development agreement prior to any demo permit, post a large bond and under no circumstances allow more "temporary" surface parking, no sob stories, no exceptions.

There are still lots of great heritage buildings for you to spend your nest egg or pension on. Let me know your budget and I'm sure we could close one for you in 30 days!

Thanks for your ongoing interest in Winnipeg's architectural past but let's find a way towards a great architectural future.

1ajs · #**7416** Posted **Oct 20, 2015, 1:01 PM**

ive got a peac of the plaster facde from the regent theater and a origonal peic off the royal bank building that got tossed
and somewhear i have a marble step from the regent

emeraldeyes · #**7417** Posted **Oct 20, 2015, 2:37 PM**

Srsly, how do you manage to get your hands on that kind of treasure?

drew · #**7418** Posted **Oct 20, 2015, 3:03 PM**

The house at the southwest corner of Maryland and Westminster has been demolished (100 Maryland).

I had heard that the property was being redeveloped into condos (along the lines of 54 Maryland), but I cannot find anything on the interwebs.

The Unknown Poster · #**7419** Posted **Oct 20, 2015, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by cllew

Wasn't there something in the Free Press a few months ago about the owner of the Pony Corral buying the land for more parking .

Its currently serving as overflow parking. But I'd be surprised if he bought that land just for that purpose.

esquire · #**7420** Posted **Oct 20, 2015, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

The house at the southwest corner of Maryland and Westminster has been demolished (100 Maryland).

I had heard that the property was being redeveloped into condos (along the lines of 54 Maryland), but I cannot find anything on the interwebs.

I was surprised to see that when I drove by on Sunday. I hadn't heard anything about a new project there. The location certainly makes sense, though... nice to see Maryland starting to take on a bit of a mixed-use character along the lines of Sherbrook.