PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 450

loverboie · #**8981** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 2:54 PM**

Hey guys, here is an interesting read for the day.

Will Philly continue to be nation’s 5th-largest city?

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20...ix_of_high__low.html#FOF1hGHor20xB2td.99

summersm343 · #**8982** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by loverboie

Hey guys, here is a good read for the day.

Will Philly continue to be nation’s 5th-largest city?

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20...ix_of_high__low.html#FOF1hGHor20xB2td.99

Such a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 article. They seem to have a problem grasping anything important here. The city is actually growing, and is one of the fastest growing counties in the region, which is sad. The region as a whole is sluggish, the city is actually performing quite well all things considered, and yet the article still tries to blame the problems of the region on the city. Typical 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 Philly.com article.

The article forgets to mention any actual facts - like the fact that those Texas and southern cities Philadelphia is losing ground in population to have 5 to 6 times the land area that the city of Philadelphia has - and instead seems to be bent on taking a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 on the city of Philadelphia as Philly.com loves to do at least once a month. It's like they get this weird satisfaction from shitting on the city. No wonder Philly.com continues to lose readers.

Most of the woes of the region fall on state government, not the city of Philadelphia. The region as a whole is losing ground to more forward thinking and business friendly environments like Massachusetts (Boston), California (San Francisco), Washington DC (Virginia and Maryland), Florida (Miami), Georgia (Atlanta) and Texas (Dallas and Houston), and until the state government wakes the hell up - as I and many others have been saying for a few years now - Philadelphia region will continue to lose it's grip. The city of Philadelphia however, is doing just fine, and city limit population is entirely irrelevant.

Knight Hospitaller · #**8983** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 4:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Such a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 article. They seem to have a problem grasping anything important here. The city is actually growing, and is one of the fastest growing counties in the region, which is sad. The region as a whole is sluggish, the city is actually performing quite well all things considered, and yet the article still tries to blame the problems of the region on the city. Typical 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 Philly.com article.

The article forgets to mention any actual facts - like the fact that those Texas and southern cities Philadelphia is losing ground in population to have 5 to 6 times the land area that the city of Philadelphia has - and instead seems to be bent on taking a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 on the city of Philadelphia as Philly.com loves to do at least once a month. It's like they get this weird satisfaction from shitting on the city. No wonder Philly.com continues to lose readers.

Most of the woes of the region fall on state government, not the city of Philadelphia. The region as a whole is losing ground to more forward thinking and business friendly environments like Massachusetts (Boston), California (San Francisco), Washington DC (Virginia and Maryland), Florida (Miami), Georgia (Atlanta) and Texas (Dallas and Houston), and until the state government wakes the hell up - as I and many others have been saying for a few years now - Philadelphia region will continue to lose it's grip. The city of Philadelphia however, is doing just fine, and city limit population is entirely irrelevant.

i didn't want to be a negative Nelly, but I too found the article deficient. Many posts on Philly.com seem to more like opinion pieces than works of journalism. There was little actual substance in this article. The only points I'd agree with are: 1. Philly is a great value when it comes to housing and cost of living, compared with other Bos-Wash cities; and 2. We have an uncomfortably high poverty rate. Maybe we could be growing faster and have a better market for office space -- and we can occupy another thread with tax and other public policy recommendations -- but the (soon to be) 17 cranes on the skyline don't lie.

summersm343 · #**8984** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 4:34 PM**

Edit. Nevermind

Outta here · #**8985** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 5:51 PM**

No summers , it's alright . You can go ahead and say what I'm thinking .

Every city has it's own set of problems . No reason to get burnt to the stump over a
🞵🞵🞵🞵 storm of negative articles that some people seem to enjoy making public .

I personally don't give a rats 🞵🞵🞵 about where other states , cities , towns , places , rank
on the " I'm better than you list " . I have lived in metro Philly for most of my life and
scratch when it itches or fart when appropriate...... Pardon me while I fart

PHL10 · #**8986** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Such a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 article.

The criticism (and rightfully so) has always been that the City population has been shrinking for 50 years. Now we are finally growing and the criticism is that we aren’t growing fast enough. Philadelphia could turn into the next Manhattan and it would still fail to meet the expectations of a certain segment.

Knight Hospitaller · #**8987** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 6:50 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outta here

No summers , it's alright . You can go ahead and say what I'm thinking .

Every city has it's own set of problems . No reason to get burnt to the stump over a
🞵🞵🞵🞵 storm of negative articles that some people seem to enjoy making public .

I personally don't give a rats 🞵🞵🞵 about where other states , cities , towns , places , rank
on the " I'm better than you list " . I have lived in metro Philly for most of my life and
scratch when it itches or fart when appropriate...... Pardon me while I fart

Colorfully said. Getting too much into the comparison game doesn't serve any purpose. Philadelphia is what it is -- and right now, it ain't half bad. The thing that I've perceived about this city is that (in my lifetime) it never seems to have caught on fire in a truly "boom" like fashion, but neither has it crashed and burned. Sometimes, like the present, there are signs of growth visible everywhere. There have been depressing runs of bad luck as well, where the city couldn't catch a break if they were giving them away. It doesn't seem to embrace fads of any kind. Philadelphia just slowly and steadily carries on, like the tortoise vs. the hare.

hammersklavier · #**8988** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 7:25 PM**

Before the recession, I remember when we kept comparing ourselves with Phoenix. But the great thing is, we're nothing like Phoenix! We're a city of 1.5 million people in a metro of 6 million, and what does Phoenix have? The city may have about the same amount of people, but the metro is only 2/3rds our size. And anyway, even the oldest most urban parts of Phoenix are made up of low-slung suburban ranchers. Not a city I want to live in.

Now that we're optimistic and confident -- and yes, have a growing amount of swagger -- about ourselves, we can look around and say city size does not matter. Now we can look at the big boys and say, "Yes, we're one of them" instead of being scared that we're gonna be passed by a metro areas that are giant kudzu suburbs.

It's a great feeling.

PHL1 · #**8989** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 10:41 PM**

Damn right! ��

PHL1 · #**8990** Posted **Oct 12, 2015, 10:43 PM**

Univ. 3.0 article
http://www.philly.com/philly/business/ho...g_at_University_City_s_western_edge.html

Schmidt519 · #**8991** Posted **Oct 13, 2015, 12:47 AM**

Interesting read. Its very exciting to see their 'master plan' for Univ City area. Although its probably not bringing us a 600+ tower(excluding FMC) in the next 10 years. It'll undoubtedly bring us investment, jobs, office/residential demand, and stability in that area which will spawn more towers in the greater Philly area.

PhilliesPhan · #**8992** Posted **Oct 13, 2015, 2:22 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverboie

Hey guys, here is an interesting read for the day.

Will Philly continue to be nation’s 5th-largest city?

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20...ix_of_high__low.html#FOF1hGHor20xB2td.99

I'm not going to lie: this article infuriated me at first. I saw it as a typical Negadelphian article attempting to discredit the real progress Philly has made over the years. I took a second to think about it, and I have come to this conclusion: who cares if we lose our #5 spot?

No matter what was written in this seemingly negative article, I have seen Philly change before my very eyes over the years. I was born in 1995, and lived in West Philly (Carroll Park) from 2002-2006. When I used to take the El into Center City from 52nd Street, I had a full view of Center City. Now, when I ride the El from 69th Street, I see buildings along Market, Chestnut, and Walnut in UC, as well as buildings springing up in the Health Complex. 46th-40th and Market used to be a dump. Now, even these areas have some vibrancy to them. I even still remember when the lot that now has The Residences at Ritz-Carlton was still a parking lot, and when Discount Row was still on Market between 11th and 12th Street.

There is something truly magical about this city. I find it amazing how 19th Century Federal-style homes on Delancey Street coalesce with the modern skyscrapers to the north. I love how vibrant certain areas become once the sun goes down. I love how Center City and University City are/have becoming/become one continuous CBD. I love the fact that I will be able to live life here without a car. I love the urban, the affordability, and the synergy that Millennials provide. This is the place that I will call home after I graduate from college and become an actuary or get involved with some position in corporate finance. I would not be afraid to raise a family here, either. I believe that people raised in urban environments have certain capabilities ("street smarts", riding public transportation, etc) that a suburban lifestyle just won't offer.

1487 · #**8993** Posted **Oct 13, 2015, 1:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Such a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 article. They seem to have a problem grasping anything important here. The city is actually growing, and is one of the fastest growing counties in the region, which is sad. The region as a whole is sluggish, the city is actually performing quite well all things considered, and yet the article still tries to blame the problems of the region on the city. Typical 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 Philly.com article.

The article forgets to mention any actual facts - like the fact that those Texas and southern cities Philadelphia is losing ground in population to have 5 to 6 times the land area that the city of Philadelphia has - and instead seems to be bent on taking a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 on the city of Philadelphia as Philly.com loves to do at least once a month. It's like they get this weird satisfaction from shitting on the city. No wonder Philly.com continues to lose readers.

Most of the woes of the region fall on state government, not the city of Philadelphia. The region as a whole is losing ground to more forward thinking and business friendly environments like Massachusetts (Boston), California (San Francisco), Washington DC (Virginia and Maryland), Florida (Miami), Georgia (Atlanta) and Texas (Dallas and Houston), and until the state government wakes the hell up - as I and many others have been saying for a few years now - Philadelphia region will continue to lose it's grip. The city of Philadelphia however, is doing just fine, and city limit population is entirely irrelevant.

That particular writer does pieces like that about once a month. He is constantly going on and on about how this region and the city is falling behind and not attracting people or jobs.

looper121 · #**8994** Posted **Oct 13, 2015, 4:56 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverboie

Hey guys, here is an interesting read for the day.

Will Philly continue to be nation’s 5th-largest city?

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20...ix_of_high__low.html#FOF1hGHor20xB2td.99

This article is a complete pile pf trash.

Outta here · #**8995** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 2:18 PM**

Holy cow: Cubs in NLCS, make Wrigley history!

Harry Caray , this one's for you

Philly , thank you for allowing me to post some fond memories .... in my
" now home " .

Now , looking and hoping for some great news about 8th. & Market .

Elevator1 · #**8996** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 2:24 PM**

Which happens first, Cubs win world series or Disney Hole filled with a legitimate project?

Knight Hospitaller · #**8997** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 2:44 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outta here

Holy cow: Cubs in NLCS, make Wrigley history!

Harry Caray , this one's for you

Philly , thank you for allowing me to post some fond memories .... in my
" now home " .

Now , looking and hoping for some great news about 8th. & Market .

I remember Caray and the Cubbies (and Chicago in general) fondly from my days at Notre Dame. I hope they finally overcome the curse. Maybe they can put a billy goat statue atop the Willis/Sears Tower.

As for 8th and Market, I'm guessing that we'll need to hear of Hell freezing over before we get our hopes up.

hammersklavier · #**8998** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

I remember Caray and the Cubbies (and Chicago in general) fondly from my days at Notre Dame. I hope they finally overcome the curse. Maybe they can put a billy goat statue atop the Willis/Sears Tower.

As for 8th and Market, I'm guessing that we'll need to hear of Hell freezing over before we get our hopes up.

mmikeyphilly · #**8999** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 4:43 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

I remember Caray and the Cubbies (and Chicago in general) fondly from my days at Notre Dame. I hope they finally overcome the curse. Maybe they can put a billy goat statue atop the Willis/Sears Tower.

As for 8th and Market, I'm guessing that we'll need to hear of Hell freezing over before we get our hopes up.

^^LOL!

Congrats to the Cubs! I hope they go all the way. No team deserves it more. The last time (and the only time) I visited Chicago was in 1993, and Wrigley Field was definitely on my agenda. I had 4 Cubs tickets, courtesy of a vendor I used to deal with. I only used 2, and someone actually bought the other 2 about a block from the Ball Park. (He sounded really desperate, but those seats remained empty. Who knows?)
Anyway, the Phils were in first place and went to the Series, only to be beaten by The Blue Jays. Philly fans turned on Mitch Williams, (who pitched very bad that game). The fans wouldn't let him live that down. Hey, stuff happens.

I think the 8th & Market lot has become the "Mitch Williams" of vacant lots.
Let's hope that never remains that.

Knight Hospitaller · #**9000** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier

Well, there you go. I'll expect an 8th and Market rendering any day now.