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Old Posted Sep 29, 2015, 7:52 PM
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Has anyone checked out Via Cibo? There is apparently one in Deerfoot Meadows and a second is nearing completion at North Pointe. It is supposed to be "Italian Street food".

Here is there web-site:
http://www.viacibo.com/

Looks like they started in Toronto. Here is a very positive article from the Toronto Star:
http://www.thestar.com/life/food_wine/20...illion_sandwich_looks_like_a_winner.html
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Wondering what the food is like at Proof (%)? Given that the menu is updated so frequently I have no idea of the pricing of their food and what they offer. Any hits would be appreciated.

I am really liking the addition of places like Cannibale and Proof to the scene here.
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2015, 5:57 PM
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I really enjoyed going to yum yum chicken at pacific place recently. I'd never tried such Korean prepared chicken before and highly recommend it. Amazing crispiness, and the spicey chicken option is my recommendation. It is a great contrast to the spicy grilled Portuguese chicken at Nandos on 32nd ave NE.

They are unfortunately only in the burbs and in Airdrie, so sorry to you inner city folks (though pacific place is accessible via LRT and then you can loop that together with a trip to the T&T there. Nandos would require a walk from the whitehorn LRT though (or a feeder bus from there).
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A major issue I have with several of the lower end eating establishments in the city is when they actually don't make things themselves, but suggest they do. A great example is Jimmy's A&A. Firstly, I actually don't like donairs with pre-sliced thin strips of meat, rather, prefer Halifax style, but I digress. If you look at all their offerings, they are all from other suppliers:

All of the baklava (which is marketed as baked fresh) is from Byblos Bakery in the NE. They actually have a number of items from Byblos, but the baklava will be the most easily recognizable for people. Many of their items are actually from Engle's bakery, also in the NE. Things like sausage rolls and the like. The samosas are also not made on side, and are clearly ordered from elsewhere (I can't tell from where unless I eat one, and I hate over paying a distributor inflated prices for samosas, so I haven't tasted from there). The jamacan patties are yet another example. They are from Lloyd's, also in the NE.

Heck, if I get food from Lloyd's, Engles, Byblos and Nooren's, I can open up in the inner city and within a month would be a legend of diverse foods there (where people don't actually know their diversity of foods, or where it comes from).
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BTW - 'Via Cibo' and 'Cibo' are different restaurants (as per your post on the Construction thread)
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BTW - 'Via Cibo' and 'Cibo' are different restaurants (as per your post on the Construction thread)
My bad. Via Cibo is in the burbs and Cibo is not (and is twice as expensive, I might add).
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Umm you don't get out much do you just so you know, there are Korean Chicken places in the core. (Olive chicken and Wow Chicken

And Nando's? You think that's a great chicken place do you. You've just revealed your level of taste when it comes to food.

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I really enjoyed going to yum yum chicken at pacific place recently. I'd never tried such Korean prepared chicken before and highly recommend it. Amazing crispiness, and the spicey chicken option is my recommendation. It is a great contrast to the spicy grilled Portuguese chicken at Nandos on 32nd ave NE.

They are unfortunately only in the burbs and in Airdrie, so sorry to you inner city folks (though pacific place is accessible via LRT and then you can loop that together with a trip to the T&T there. Nandos would require a walk from the whitehorn LRT though (or a feeder bus from there).
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2015, 1:34 AM
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My bad. Via Cibo is in the burbs and Cibo is not (and is twice as expensive, I might add).
Okay then, so you've been to Cibo's have you. If you had you wouldn't have posted that.
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I missed the 'value' part of your post, and I agree, the Indian/Vietnamese places in the Northeast are generally better value.
But here's the thing, there's more kinds of foods than just Indian/Pakistani and Afghan food. Much much more in fact. That's only a small slice of what's out there when it comes to food. If that's the only kind of food you eat, and you live near McKnight and 52nd, then great. Good for you. If you like all types of food, then the core is king.


Let me ask you something. Are you of the Islamic faith? The religious side of it doesn't concern me, but it does factor into how food is looked at. If you are a Muslim your food world will be limited to Halal and vegetarian dishes, and thus the restaurants and types of cuisine are limited. You won't have tried all the different types of food out there, and food diversity is something that will be different to you.

Anyways, back to the original argument, yes, collectively the burbs do have some good restaurants, and can offer good value if you're willing to travel long distances to reach them.

P.S. You don't have to go to Bowness to get Korean Chicken, you can go downtown where it's closer.

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So to be clear, was never talking about Rouge or Catch. I spoke of value diversity. We also were not talking about walkability (strawman arguement busted) though there are at least 25 establishments within 500m of 52nd & McKnight. 17th SE has its stretches too. Yes you can get indian in the downtown, but only moderately good and at okay value, but not at high value for the dollar and not pakistani or sri lankan. Persian and afghan are additional examples available in both the downtown and in the burbs, but in the downtown at a premium. And when you talk indian, the punjabi places in the downtown are okay and relatively expensive. I hate those heavy soft pastry potato dumplings they pass off as somosas. If you want a truly hand crafted crispy chicken or beef somosa go to nooren's in the north edge of the SE (a converted pizza joint - good on the Afghan refugee that makes it happen there). They make them there and sell hot from the fryer for $1.10. You can buy old pre-made ones from the same supplier for almost four times the cost in the inner city at Calgary Shawarma, but you see the point? Old, inferior, not made by the seller, not made on site, and for four times the price. The inner city has no kabab places even close to quality and authenticity of a pakistani kabab from faisal kabaab hut. Like really. People are talking about purchasing a print of mona lisa from a book store chain in the downtown, to actaully buying the real mona lisa for half the price in the NE. Obviously that is somewhat of a stretch as touchstones go, but hopefully it makes the point (particularly for the stereotypical white, or might as well be white folks, who don't know any better*).

I do agree that there is an indian curry place in the Core shopping centre's food court where the chinese owners and staff actually do not a bad job. They still have no real somosas, however (and if you've tasted naan made in front of you in a real tandoor, you'll know why there is no comparison).

Oh - and Cibo in the NE is almost complete. I was just asking about that place in the food thread. It is right beside the superstore and recreation complex walking distance from my place.

Anyway - let's move this over to the food thread (per BigTime's suggestion). Am talking about Cibo there, as well as my recent post about Portuguese chicken at Nandos and Korean chicken at Yum Yum. Yum Yum, yes a chain, is a great stop when I go to the T&T there, though I often go for Trinidad and Tobago options at the Roti Hut across the way when I go there also. You may not have heard of most of these places as I find many in the inner city haven't traveled much.

*I'm kidding - don't crucify me!
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2015, 2:04 AM
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Okay then, so you've been to Cibo's have you. If you had you wouldn't have posted that.
Both have their menus available on-line. Check for yourself.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2015, 3:31 AM
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I missed the 'value' part of your post, and I agree, the Indian/Vietnamese places in the Northeast are generally better value.
But here's the thing, there's more kinds of foods than just Indian/Pakistani and Afghan food. Much much more in fact. That's only a small slice of what's out there when it comes to food. If that's the only kind of food you eat, and you live near McKnight and 52nd, then great. Good for you. If you like all types of food, then the core is king.


Let me ask you something. Are you of the Islamic faith? The religious side of it doesn't concern me, but it does factor into how food is looked at. If you are a Muslim your food world will be limited to Halal and vegetarian dishes, and thus the restaurants and types of cuisine are limited. You won't have tried all the different types of food out there, and food diversity is something that will be different to you.

Anyways, back to the original argument, yes, collectively the burbs do have some good restaurants, and can offer good value if you're willing to travel long distances to reach them.

P.S. You don't have to go to Bowness to get Korean Chicken, you can go downtown where it's closer.
It's really hard to argue against Suburbia when he keeps changing what he is arguing about. Rambling babble full of one off examples of places he has been. If we are looking for the highest amount of diversity, I think it is pretty obvious that inner city has all of the quadrants beat individually. And even if you combine all of the quadrants (Although I have no clue why you would. Who would travel from Royal Oak to Auburn Bay because they heard of a restaurant there with great empanadas that were cheap. The money spent on gas alone would be more of the savings on food) it has them beat.

This argument could be solved by a map of all the different kinds of restaurants in each of the neighbourhoods.
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Both have their menus available on-line. Check for yourself.
Dude, why are you even posting this?? They aren't the same kind of restaurant! One's fast food and one isn't. It's like comparing Mcdonald's to Loungeburger ....yah, both places sell hamburgers. Doesn't mean they should have the same prices.
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It's really hard to argue against Suburbia when he keeps changing what he is arguing about. Rambling babble full of one off examples of places he has been. If we are looking for the highest amount of diversity, I think it is pretty obvious that inner city has all of the quadrants beat individually. And even if you combine all of the quadrants (Although I have no clue why you would. Who would travel from Royal Oak to Auburn Bay because they heard of a restaurant there with great empanadas that were cheap. The money spent on gas alone would be more of the savings on food) it has them beat.

This argument could be solved by a map of all the different kinds of restaurants in each of the neighbourhoods.
Exactly! Vercingerix argument sums it up perfectly, Suburbia's only trying to keep on with an argument that he was totally beaten at.
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A Japanese BBQ place is opening on the corner of 6th and 6th SW. Gyu-Kaku.

Appears to be a large Japanese chain with locations in NYC, BOS, MIA, LAS, CHI, VAN etc.
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A Japanese BBQ place is opening on the corner of 6th and 6th SW. Gyu-Kaku.

Appears to be a large Japanese chain with locations in NYC, BOS, MIA, LAS, CHI, VAN etc.
Japanese BBQ, Nice!

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Interesting question, and not surprising that Suburbia never answered it. He has made it known that he's a Muslim, which of course is his own business. Yet at the same time he's also talking about the chicken at Yum Yum and Nando's. Weird? He's either a Muslim, but not a poor example of one or perhaps he's fibbing just a pinch about his restaurant experiences.

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Let me ask you something. Are you of the Islamic faith? The religious side of it doesn't concern me, but it does factor into how food is looked at. If you are a Muslim your food world will be limited to Halal and vegetarian dishes, and thus the restaurants and types of cuisine are limited. You won't have tried all the different types of food out there, and food diversity is something that will be different to you.
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I missed the 'value' part of your post, and I agree, the Indian/Vietnamese places in the Northeast are generally better value.
But here's the thing, there's more kinds of foods than just Indian/Pakistani and Afghan food. Much much more in fact. That's only a small slice of what's out there when it comes to food. If that's the only kind of food you eat, and you live near McKnight and 52nd, then great. Good for you. If you like all types of food, then the core is king.
Let me know if there are any great Portuguese places or Trinidadian roti places. I love the ones in the NE, but might venture a bit if there is anything good elsewhere.
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Dude, why are you even posting this?? They aren't the same kind of restaurant! One's fast food and one isn't. It's like comparing Mcdonald's to Loungeburger ....yah, both places sell hamburgers. Doesn't mean they should have the same prices.
Yes I know that. I admitted the error earlier. I said check the two menus as a back-up of my claim that one is double the price of the other. Sheesh.

BTW - I love real habaneros.
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Interesting question, and not surprising that Suburbia never answered it. He has made it known that he's a Muslim, which of course is his own business. Yet at the same time he's also talking about the chicken at Yum Yum and Nando's. Weird? He's either a Muslim, but not a poor example of one or perhaps he's fibbing just a pinch about his restaurant experiences.
It is an interesting comment. Would be like me asking if you're jewish, and thus having never tasted chicken alfredo.

And yes, chicken at yum yum and nandos is excellent, but with different preparation of course. Do you have a nandos in the downtown? And why the heck would I travel all the way to bowness for korean?
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