CF Pacific Centre Developments

[SpongeG]

i find if you tell the sales people you are just looking they will leave you alone, but if you specify what you are looking for ie pants or a jacket they will follow you around more and start suggesting things

but they are well known for their service in that they will go out of their way to get the item for you, if they don't have it at the store you are in they will get one from another store and either deliver it to you via shipping or even drop the item off at your hotel if your an out of towner, and to Canadians I've heard them say they can ship your purchases for you to Canada so you can avoid the border issues, ie going over your shopping limit.

[SpongeG]

when i first saw this i thought the nordstrom over the curved part was photoshopped, it kinda looks unreal, like it

[osirisboy]

But I don't want to have a conversation with them. Just be there if I need something. They don't need to approach me. I know they are there if I need something I will do the approaching.

[Pinion]

Retail salespeople usually approach everyone because it's been proven that shoplifting is less likely after you've been approached and acknowledged, if you wanna get really cynical about it.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

But I don't want to have a conversation with them. Just be there if I need something. They don't need to approach me. I know they are there if I need something I will do the approaching.

i'm the same, i just say i am browsing thanks.

but if i go to a store and am completely ignored and do need some help and they do nothing, no acknowlegement or a hello i will just go to another store and do a pretty woman thing lol, see look what you missed out by ignoring me

[jsbertram]

is it still under construction?

[trofirhen]

It would have looked SO much better without that ugly spandrel box over the entrance.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

It would have looked SO much better without that ugly spandrel box over the entrance.

It actually did look better when it was plastered with the opening ad before. Spandrels are perfect for ads.

[Vin]

If Nordstrom/PC turns out to be a success, I'm sure developers/retailers would finally consider the General Post Office site to be downtown's second huge mall.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Vin

If Nordstrom/PC turns out to be a success, I'm sure developers/retailers would finally consider the General Post Office site to be downtown's second huge mall.

Whatever may become of that gigantic downtown Post Office building is a real intrigue.

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Vin

If Nordstrom/PC turns out to be a success, I'm sure developers/retailers would finally consider the General Post Office site to be downtown's second huge mall.

Or perhaps the Bay Parkade block?

[daverraver]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i find if you tell the sales people you are just looking they will leave you alone, but if you specify what you are looking for ie pants or a jacket they will follow you around more and start suggesting things

but they are well known for their service in that they will go out of their way to get the item for you, if they don't have it at the store you are in they will get one from another store and either deliver it to you via shipping or even drop the item off at your hotel if your an out of towner, and to Canadians I've heard them say they can ship your purchases for you to Canada so you can avoid the border issues, ie going over your shopping limit.

Exactly. There is a pair of jeans that I saw at the Nordstrom at The Grove (Los Angeles) that I was going to buy there but decided to wait until our store opened. The Vancouver store doesn't carry the line (yet) so the salesperson told me that as long as the item is at a Nordstrom location, they can perform an internal transfer (as long as I prepay) and they'll call me when it arrives. Typical return policy applies here.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Or perhaps the Bay Parkade block?

I'm not sure how easy it would be to tear down and rebuild as there's underground space that's not open to the public. I just asked about it and hopefully will hear something this week.

[daverraver]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

But I don't want to have a conversation with them. Just be there if I need something. They don't need to approach me. I know they are there if I need something I will do the approaching.

And that's totally fine. In reality though (having been a retail salesperson in the past), it's difficult or impossible to know who has been/hasn't been approached already. I always kept my distance and watched their behaviour. If they appeared like they needed assistance, that was my cue to approach them.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by daverraver

And that's totally fine. In reality though (having been a retail salesperson in the past), it's difficult or impossible to know who has been/hasn't been approached already. I always kept my distance and watched their behaviour. If they appeared like they needed assistance, that was my cue to approach them.

Yes that's what I'm talking about. That's great! That sounds like the opposite of what Nordstrom is doing though.

[s211]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Whatever may become of that gigantic downtown Post Office building is a real intrigue.

The first public plans might appear some time in October, I've been told.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Vin

If Nordstrom/PC turns out to be a success, I'm sure developers/retailers would finally consider the General Post Office site to be downtown's second huge mall.

You will likely see a lot of retail but not in a traditional mall format. It will be a true mixed use development.

One thing to note, if you walk Pacific Centre below Nordstrom you will notice that the expansion space isn't 100% leased, and some of the tenancies are to not entirely optimal tenants (I'm looking at you rockport...). Demand for downtown mall space is not as high as you may believe, and if Canada's most productive mall can't lease out brand new space below Nordstrom, I doubt a mall on the fringe of downtown would be a highly successful venture.

Originally Posted by Sheba

I'm not sure how easy it would be to tear down and rebuild as there's underground space that's not open to the public. I just asked about it and hopefully will hear something this week.

The Bay Parkade will be torn down. Not any time soon is my guess, as Holborn has their hands full at little mountain, but a full redevelopment is in the cards for that site.

[red-paladin]

I'm pro-Pacific Centre, but I can't understand the obsession with indoor malls for downtown.

"Our City is fine but, if only we had a massive mall we'd move up the global city charts!" - Said Edmonton in 1979.

Don't get me wrong, I support the growth of retail, mixed use and yes, a certain amount of enclosed mall space. I think that this project in particular was right on to integrate the basement to Pacific Centre (and Skytrain!). Lots can be done in this area for sure in the future.

However, as International Village, and some smaller projects downtown have shown, even the tepid failure of the original Royal Centre vision. There isn't an insatiable demand for indoor malls downtown.

[WarrenC12]

I wonder if the viaduct removal will re-invigorate International Village...

[daverraver]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Yes that's what I'm talking about. That's great! That sounds like the opposite of what Nordstrom is doing though.

Yes....I'm sure most don't do that. I hope that the required 'approach' is fine-tuned.