There are 3 categories: General Information, Apartment Rentals, Retail Leasing. I would have thought/did think this was going to be condos. Maybe it is a mix. A dual apartment/condo structure would help the tower(s) attain a high height and help even the condos on the lowest condo floors get great views if they are atop the rental apartments.
There are 3 categories: General Information, Apartment Rentals, Retail Leasing. I would have thought/did think this was going to be condos. Maybe it is a mix. A dual apartment/condo structure would help the tower(s) attain a high height and help even the condos on the lowest condo floors get great views if they are atop the rental apartments.
Eh... maybe. I hope so at least. But the truth is this seems like just more information contributing to the idea that we're about to be sorely disappointed. Maybe not by the height, but the ridiculous price paid for the property, SLC's poor history, the second rate website, and now the existence of rental units all indicate a less than high end building in terms of design and quality.
Also the St. James in Washington Square. The design of both residential buildings really standout compared to what is out there. Nothing similar in our highrise stock. Hope SLC spends the money and gets an outstanding design from this very capable architectural firm!
"Several levels of retail?" The site is 36,300 square feet.
At 4 floors of retail, that would total about 145,200 square feet.
At 5 floors of retail, that would total about 181,500 square feet.
At 6 floors of retail, that would total about 217,800 square feet.
The average new Bloomingdale's stores being opened range from 115,000 to 250,000 in square feet.
This site would be the perfect location for a Bloomingdale's or a Nordstrom being right off the square. Can't get a better location than that. SLC really has the opportunity to deliver big time here especially with the hiring of SCB Architects.
Plus, retail tends to have high ceiling heights (especially department stores), usually around 25 feet.
Let's say 5 floors of retail with 25 foot ceiling heights totaling 125 feet tall. That leaves about 435 feet in total if the 560 feet height is accurate. 435 feet is about 35 floors of residential. Let's split that in half and say 17 floors of condos and 17 floors of apartments with one amenity floor. We're then looking at an apartment count around 250-300 and a condo count around 30-50.
"Several levels of retail?" The site is 36,300 square feet.
At 4 floors of retail, that would total about 145,200 square feet.
At 5 floors of retail, that would total about 181,500 square feet.
At 6 floors of retail, that would total about 217,800 square feet.
The average new Bloomingdale's stores being opened range from 115,000 to 250,000 in square feet.
This site would be the perfect location for a Bloomingdale's or a Nordstrom being right off the square. Can't get a better location than that. SLC really has the opportunity to deliver big time here especially with the hiring of SCB Architects.
Plus, retail tends to have high ceiling heights (especially department stores), usually around 25 feet.
Let's say 5 floors of retail with 25 foot ceiling heights totaling 125 feet tall. That leaves about 435 feet in total if the 560 feet height is accurate. 435 feet is about 35 floors of residential. Let's split that in half and say 17 floors of condos and 17 floors of apartments with one amenity floor. We're then looking at an apartment count around 250-300 and a condo count around 30-50.
What was the source on the 560 foot height? I missed that.
Gotta say, lot more optimistic if SCB is indeed the architect.
I actually am hopeful with Southern Land Company on this project. You've noted that a lot of their past projects were mediocre, which a lot of them were. But I think 3601 Market was their first attempt at building a true highrise in a dense, mixed-used, urban setting, and they succeeded. I imagine they see themselves as wanting to become a big-time developer, and so see 1911 as a place to move onto the next step and build something truly classy. That's my theory, at least. Getting SCB on the design work supports it!
Also the St. James in Washington Square. The design of both residential buildings really standout compared to what is out there. Nothing similar in our highrise stock. Hope SLC spends the money and gets an outstanding design from this very capable architectural firm!
This is also the same architect as the Drexel Lancaster Square Project, now known as The Summit.
This is also the same architect as the Drexel Lancaster Square Project, now known as The Summit.
Can you give us any info (without getting fired) like when we can expect a render, what the floor count is, whether it is still to be 1 tower at 560', will it be on Walnut or Sansom?
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