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Old Posted Aug 14, 2015, 11:38 PM
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I can attest that those buildings on Johnson look great, and look kinda old-ish...better than what many Kingstonians thought they would turn out as...
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^ Generally, Kingston does faux-heritage pretty well, I find.

More modern styles though, tend to be hideous here.
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^ Last I heard, the O-Train MUP is going to be paved soon (as in, this year or next), and at the time they're adding proper curb cuts at Beech and lights at Carling.
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The Envie will almost certainly be at least as ugly as the renders show. The good news (if that's what we can call it) is that there will be taller and hopefully better buildings in the area someday.

But the fact that it's right next to Soho is truly unfortunate (especially for Soho buyers) -- I'd be trying to sell now before it's too late!
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I don't know if this was posted before but the floorplans are on their website now. Looks like about 14 suites per floor with more than half claiming they are for 'double occupancy'. The smallest is 495sq/ft - pretty small for two people. They are also really trying to push investors on this (from Toronto area) claiming an ROI of 14.5% per year and guaranteed rental income for the first 3 years. Also from their webpage
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"This is for people don’t believe in Toronto Market & utilize the Canada’s Capital City investment opportunity!"
Floorplans at bottom

Kijiji add looking for investors

It's definitely a very convenient location for Carleton Students. To me it looks strange beside the new SOHO Champagne though. I wonder why this area isn't more popular for students especially with the Upass and easy access to the O-train. This are needs a grocery store badly.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2015, 7:58 PM
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1 - Very much like the concept of condos for students.
2 - Don't like the building exterior at all.
3 - Units have nice lay-outs.
4 - Very convenient with O-train.
5 - Can just imagine the number of students on O-train at peak times.....will be taken over by students.
6 - Too bad for SOHO buyers.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2015, 10:12 PM
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Ashcroft set to launch condo project aimed at students

Patrick Langston, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: August 27, 2015 | Last Updated: August 27, 2015 3:18 PM EDT



The ‘penthouse' is part party room, games room and study area.

A fresh approach to student housing that combines real estate investors, highrises, public transit and one of Ottawa’s hot spots for condominium development is set to launch Sept. 28.

That’s when Envie Student, a new wing of Ashcroft Homes, holds its VIP launch for the first of two student residence towers at 101 Champagne Ave. S., former site of the Ottawa Humane Society. The site is just west of Little Italy, a hive of current and planned condo construction.

The two towers are known collectively as Capital Hall Condominiums. When completed, they’ll have more than 500 fully furnished units with room for up to 1,000 students. And they’re close to the O-Train Trillium Line’s Carling Station, which is one stop from Carleton University, whose students could benefit the most from the development.

The first tower, 28 storeys and ready for occupancy by the start of the 2016 school year, will comprise 329 studio, one- and two-bedroom units that will be sold condo-style to investors who in turn will rent them to students. The units start at $179,900 for 317 square feet. Rents will begin at $1,100, and Envie Student is offering investors a leaseback option under which the company will rent out the units on behalf of the purchasers for the first two years.

The second building, expected to open in 2018, will be owned entirely by Envie Student, which will rent directly to students. The 25-storey building will have 183 units, most of them three or four bedrooms. Leasing should start early in 2016. Rents have not yet been set.

Amenities are generous, including a fitness centre, party room, lounge with study areas and outdoor courtyard. There will be on-site housekeeping services, and plans are afoot for a street-level grocery store and coffee shop.

Envie Student will manage both buildings.


Units will include studio, one- and two-bedroom suites that will be sold condo-style to investors who in turn will rent them to students.

The two towers originally received city approval as regular condo buildings, but when condominium sales began slumping across the city in 2013, Ashcroft spotted a silver lining amid the gloom.

“It became clear that there was a growing shortage of housing for students, and the realization hit that this is an ideal opportunity,” says Ashcroft CEO David Choo. “The soft condo market in Ottawa was a nice coincidence.”

Proximity to Carleton will give the university a particular edge in attracting foreign students, Choo believes.

“(Foreign) parents won’t send their kids to Carleton and spend $20,000 on tuition (the average is actually closer to $24,000) and have them live in the kind of place I had when I was at Carleton,” says Choo, who is originally from Guyana and studied engineering at Carleton in the 1970s.


Amenities include a generous courtyard.

Good quality student housing has long been an issue in Ottawa, where roughly 80,000 full-time students attend Carleton, the University of Ottawa and Algonquin College, the city’s three biggest post-secondary institutions.

For example, only 3,621 of a total full-time student population of roughly 24,000 at Carleton live in on-campus housing. That leaves a lot of people scrambling for accommodation — some of it decidedly dumpy — every year.

“We absolutely have a wait list for people wanting to live in residence,” says Laura Storey, Carleton’s director of housing. She adds that students have reported trouble finding accommodation off-campus, although she can’t say what sort of housing they are looking for.

Student housing challenges may or may not increase in the future. Ontario saw university enrolment grow 49 per cent from 2002 to 2014. However, last fall the Ontario Universities’ Application Centre reported a downward trend in enrolment at colleges and universities as the children of baby boomers finished their post-secondary education.


One double occupant unit is 645 square feet with two bedrooms and two bathrooms.

Changing trends or not, developers are jumping into the student housing market. They seem especially keen to serve the University of Ottawa.

Last fall, construction started on a nine-storey private student residence on Mann Avenue, close to the university. More recently, the Ontario Municipal Board approved a multi-storey private student residence at Laurier Avenue East and Friel Street in Sandy Hill after the city turned thumbs down on it. Campus Suites’ 1Eleven, a former Holiday Inn on Cooper Street, is taking applications for this school year with rents starting at $795 per month. All told, the three projects will add over 1,200 beds within walking distance of the University of Ottawa.

Landlords like these will need to ensure good tenant-neighbour relations. That hasn’t always been the case with student housing, where loud parties are among the complaints voiced by neighbouring residents.

In the case of Capital Hall Condominiums, there’s been little community concern about the influx of young residents, according to Karen Wright, president of the Civic Hospital Neighbourhood Association.


One single occupant unit is a 317-square-foot studio.

“We’re not anticipating any of the troubles that have happened in other areas of the city,” she says. Some residents have said that students will bring a “lively presence” to the area, she adds. As well, she says that since students by and large use public transit or bicycles, additional traffic should not be an issue.

Ashcroft says noise control and other policies are in the works for its development. As well, the two buildings will have no balconies in an attempt to reduce noise complaints.

“There will be no big, wild parties in these buildings,” says Choo.

Also absent, he says, will be traffic chaos at the beginning and end of each school year.

“The world of off-campus housing is the 12-month lease so you don’t have massive move-ins and move-outs.”


Capital Hall Condominiums


What: Two student residence towers at 101 Champagne Ave. S. with combined room for about 1,000 students. VIP launch Sept. 28; public launch to follow.
Builder: Ashcroft Homes
Sales centre: At Ashcroft’s Q West project, 101 Richmond Rd.
Hours: Monday to Thursday, noon to 6 p.m.; weekends, noon to 5 p.m.; closed Friday.
Information: 613-221-5928; capitalhallcondos.com

http://ottawacitizen.com/life/homes/...ed-at-students
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2015, 10:50 PM
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^ Street level grocery store!!!

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I don't know if this was posted before but the floorplans are on their website now. Looks like about 14 suites per floor with more than half claiming they are for 'double occupancy'. The smallest is 495sq/ft - pretty small for two people. They are also really trying to push investors on this (from Toronto area) claiming an ROI of 14.5% per year and guaranteed rental income for the first 3 years. Also from their webpage

Floorplans at bottom

Kijiji add looking for investors

It's definitely a very convenient location for Carleton Students. To me it looks strange beside the new SOHO Champagne though. I wonder why this area isn't more popular for students especially with the Upass and easy access to the O-train. This are needs a grocery store badly.
I would like to know where they got the annual ROI of 14.5% from.

Using the information in the Ottawa Citizen article that rocketphish just posted and the following conservative numbers

- Purchase price of $179,900
- Monthly rent of $1,100 (assuming tenants look after utilities)
- Monthly condo fee of $250
- Annual property tax of $2,700 (about 1.5% of purchase price)

Assuming the typical 20% down for investors with variable mortgage rate of 2.1% (prime -0.60%), I got roughly 6% for ROI and more importantly the cap rate of about 3.2%. This latter number is especially important for real estate investors and obviously the higher the number is, the better it is.

I believe there will be demand for these units in this neck o' the woods. I am just not sure if the numbers are what these guys claim to be. If properties have good ROI and cap rate, I don't think they need to advertise, per se. The diligent investors know where the good opportunities are.

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'Street Level Grocery Store' will probably end up being a way overpriced hasty market or something
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The site plan only shows 1000 square feet
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It's too bad these ugly buildings are going to ruin the new Dow's Lake skyline...

Fingers crossed that at some point Charlesfort will purchase some land here and spruce things up!
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Charlesfort does have land here. I think it's street number 800 carling ave.
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Isn't that the other Casey brother with Arnon?
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Charlesfort does have land here. I think it's street number 800 carling ave.
Does Charlesfort have any projects in the pipeline? They are down to only a few units left in the Merit, but I haven't heard of anything else coming.
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I remember Doug being quoted as saying that he wanted to do one more Art Deco building. I always thought that it would be on that carling avenue property. But that's all I know.

They were also working with the mcgarry's on something but the city spiked it before it got off the ground. Pun intended.

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It's too bad these ugly buildings are going to ruin the new Dow's Lake skyline...
Agree 100%. In all the talk about the need for student housing, affordability, return on investment, wild parties, and so forth, is there any concern at all for beauty? No, not in Ottawa, the city that architecture forgot. These Leggo buildings will blend in perfectly into the Ottawa skyline, and probably no one will even bother to notice.
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I realize that this has nothing to do with the Envie, but since the topic has turned to Charlesfort, has this company built anything since The Merit?
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