YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Just when we were talking about ATL last week, I today booked flights to Atlanta in couple of weeks from now.

Looking forward to visiting Atlanta and doing things like The Walking Dead tour. Atlanta seems to have a lot going for themselves.

Lots to do in Atlanta
Coca Cola Museum
CNN Center
Stone Mountain
Catch a Braves Game
Depending where you are staying the rapid transit system is very good. I rarely need a car when i go

Bring your camera of course as its hometown of the architect John Portman (Peachtree Center) and lots of churches (its the south LOL) . If you venture to the mountains in the north, its very scenic...ie Gainesville (GA not FL). Dont be surprised to see people with gun strapped to them in the countryside. Its an open carry state.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

How about a direct flight to Vladivostok and Denmark. Then Greenland and ALL of Russia would be orange. Haha.

Personally, I think a population heat map is more relevant.

The next ones I'm slathering for to go "orange" is swaths of South America,
(CHA, GRU, SCL) and if feasible, Turkey (IST). We don't really need Dubai, unless EK offers some crazily cheap deal, or you want the luxurious flight.
BTW .... I appreciate that you live in Japan and Vancouver, and that naturally your interests centre on E Asia. Totally normal, cool.
However, I think it's good to think worldwide, too. Outside Asia (China esp), where more flights will come, I think Vancouver would have it licked as a real world hub, with Oceania filled in (Melbourne) and as I said, the Mideast, Caucasus, and Eastern Mediterranean linked up (IST) and emerging S.America (GRU, CHA, and SCL).
(But having Osaka year round would be cool, too, and wow, love to get Singapre back.)

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by moosejaw

Lots to do in Atlanta
...
CNN Center

Yeah, on my list. It will be interesting to see how sitcom is being made.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

We don't really need Dubai, unless EK offers some crazily cheap deal, or you want the luxurious flight.

I keep hearing people calling Emirates experience "luxurious". I have never flown with them, but wonder what the fuzz is all about since they have never made it to be a 5-star airline. Is it that their premium products are amazing but economy is ordinary? They are a 4-star airline with Air Canada and many others.

I also find it funny how major American airlines (all of them) never made it past 3 stars.

[Denscity]

YVR just reporting a trilateral agreement between Canada, USA, and Mexico.

[LeftCoaster]

Their economy is better, but in the end economy is economy. You get some little perks, the food is better, the service better but the chairs are still crammed in and food is often limited in choice. Premium is where their product is significantly better.

If you really want to experience a difference, in both economy or premium, fly Singapore airlines. Like EK their first/business is top tier, but their economy is a step above.

Oh and from my experience most American airlines don't even deserve 3.

[LeftCoaster]

Since I like Johnny's format, and for once I beat him to the punch, I'm going to just flat out steal it

Another strong month for YVR, although it barely beat out a strong month of growth at nearby Calgary, which is a surprise given their economic woes.

http://www.yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/July_2015_Traffic_Update.sflb.ashx

Overall up 5.6% YTD up 5.3%

Domestic up 4.2% YTD up 2.7%
Transborder up 5.8% YTD up 10.2%
Asia Pacific up 8.2% YTD up 4.4%
Europe up 9.7% YTD up 8.6%
Misc Int'l up 4.3% YTD up 7.1%

July 2015 is up over a strong 109,200 passengers compared to July 2014.
YTD June 2015 is up just shy of 590,000 compared to the same period last year.

Cargo growth up a slight 2.4%, but this still allowed YVR to achieve it's highest month ever at over 26,000 tonnes, YTD up 9.8%.

Surprises for me:

• Domestic growth up sharply, for no apparent reason
• Transborder did not blow the roof off like I thought it would. Weak dollar having an impact, but I expected it to be more.
• Asia growth appears to be back with a vengeance, which is nice as that truly is YVR's bread and butter
• European growth remains delightfully strong

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Another strong month for YVR, although it barely beat out a strong month of growth at nearby Calgary, which is a surprise given their economic woes.

Just a guess, but people having made their holiday plans way before the recent downturn may have been enjoying their holidays. It's the main travel season after all.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Their economy is better, but in the end economy is economy. If you really want to experience a difference, in both economy or premium, fly Singapore airlines. Like EK their first/business is top tier, but their economy is a step above.

Yeah, SQ has always had a solid reputation. Too bad they don't fly from anywhere where I would be traveling from or going to. I flew with Malaysian Airlines when they were still a 5-star airline and it was a great experience. Also the few times I have flown with Turkish Airlines their experience in Economy has been better than the average. They have had the goal to become a 5-star airline for few years now, but they seem not to be there yet.

[SFUVancouver]

What happened to helicopter traffic at YVR in July?! Down 99.6%

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

What happened to helicopter traffic at YVR in July?! Down 99.6%

All of them fighting wild fires?

What kind of traffic does this consist of normally? Charter flights to remote locations?

[nname]

Originally Posted by Klazu

All of them fighting wild fires?

What kind of traffic does this consist of normally? Charter flights to remote locations?

JB851 Vancouver/International (YVR) - Vancouver/Harbour (CXH)
JB858 Vancouver/Harbour (CXH) - Vancouver/International (YVR)

Probably the only scheduled route I can find.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Yeah, SQ has always had a solid reputation. Too bad they don't fly from anywhere where I would be traveling from or going to. I flew with Malaysian Airlines when they were still a 5-star airline and it was a great experience. Also the few times I have flown with Turkish Airlines their experience in Economy has been better than the average. They have had the goal to become a 5-star airline for few years now, but they seem not to be there yet.

Turkish is apparently putting most of its energy into expansion. In terms of airlines and the number of countries served, Turkish tops out at 110 followed by LH at 85 and BA at 78. Apparently, there's a vision of a huge new airport north of the Istanbul, plus the stated corporategoal of rivalling the M3 as the great dominant airlines and hubs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_destinations

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by nname

JB851 Vancouver/International (YVR) - Vancouver/Harbour (CXH)
JB858 Vancouver/Harbour (CXH) - Vancouver/International (YVR)

Probably the only scheduled route I can find.

Wow, talk about a pointless route with Canada Line being around. Of course if you will not want to travel with the common man in a filthy SkyTrain, then this is highly practical for you but then you won't have the chance to enjoy a ride on the backseat of your brand new Rolls Royce. Bummer.

[trofirhen]

Here's YYZ's "orange zones"



https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:YYZ_Destinations.svg

[Klazu]

Ah, didn't find that earlier. Most impressive! That's a world airport right there (although the person has forgotten to color Greenland). Didn't know they have so many destinations in South America. Seems that New Zealand is really the only edge we have over them.

Will YYZ be likely to see any further expansion in Africa? It seems to be the only continent they lack some presence in on top of East Europe and Western Asia.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Ah, didn't find that earlier. Most impressive! That's a world airport right there (although the person has forgotten to color Greenland). Didn't know they have so many destinations in South America. Seems that New Zealand is really the only edge we have over them.

Will YYZ be likely to see any further expansion in Africa? It seems to be the only continent they lack some presence in on top of East Europe and Western Asia.

The routes to the Philippines and Australia are one-stops from YYZ, and nonstops (AC to SYD, PAL to Manila) from YVR. This, would entail same-plane service from YYZ.
As far as expansion in Africa, I think one of the first might be Jo'burg.

[LeftCoaster]

Ya the Philippines and Australia ones are kinda bogus IMO. Still a very impressive map.

[trofirhen]

Air Canada does have a lot of destinations, yes, and is now the fifth largest airline in North America, after, American, Delta, United, and Southwest.
It ranks 9th in fleet size worldwide, but places nowhere in any other category. See below if interested.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_airlines_in_North_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_airlines

Kind of a shame that Vancouver-based CP AIR, at one time a competitor, then its Calgary-based succesor, Canadian, finally got taken over by AC.
But a country Canada's pop. size can only really support one major world airline.

[SFUVancouver]

Wow. Go YYZ! That's seriously impressive.