Vancouver Lighting - Page 26

osirisboy · #**501** Posted **Feb 6, 2015, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

I read the details and it doesn't sounds like a bad proposal to me. They aren't calling for a reduction of light intensity at ground level so much as they are calling for better placed and better directed lighting. Instead of undirectional lighting pointed in every direction switching to light that illuminates only the areas that require illumination.

So would it be safe to say then for example, spotlights directed at the art gallery to illuminate the building would still be allowed? Or is this the type of lighting that they want banned?

Alex Mackinnon · #**502** Posted **Feb 6, 2015, 5:01 PM**

I think the key thing to limiting light pollution is to keep the light directed where you actually want it. Fixtures with open tops just shining off into space aren't really all that useful in the first place. You could mitigate a lot of light pollution by just making sure lights are actually pointing at objects and not throwing half the light into the sky.

I doubt that architectural lighting is a significant contributor anyway. Industrial lighting tend to be considerably brighter. When you see the sky glowing, it has a distinct sodium glow to it. Who uses sodium lights for architecture anyway?

LEDs are great for limiting light pollution because they're highly directional. Even if the light is considerably brighter that a sodium lamp. any pollution would have to be caused by reflecting off a surface with a low albedo.

Vin · #**503** Posted **Feb 6, 2015, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

I haven't seen them yet so I can't say - but I like that they're a directional light.

Have I ever said there should be no artificial light outside at night - no. Have I ever said anything about birds - no. Perhaps I'm not the one who's a cuckoo.

Chill. Noone's talking about Sheba. Topic at hand: Cuckoo city councillor.

osirisboy · #**504** Posted **Feb 6, 2015, 6:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

I think the key thing to limiting light pollution is to keep the light directed where you actually want it. Fixtures with open tops just shining off into space aren't really all that useful in the first place. You could mitigate a lot of light pollution by just making sure lights are actually pointing at objects and not throwing half the light into the sky.

I doubt that architectural lighting is a significant contributor anyway. Industrial lighting tend to be considerably brighter. When you see the sky glowing, it has a distinct sodium glow to it. Who uses sodium lights for architecture anyway?

LEDs are great for limiting light pollution because they're highly directional. Even if the light is considerably brighter that a sodium lamp. any pollution would have to be caused by reflecting off a surface with a low albedo.

I agree and that makes a lot of sense. But then again this is vancouver. I just hope that it doesn't spill over into limiting or banning lighting buildings or landscaping. When she speaks so fondly of the 1800s it makes you wonder lol

Sheba · #**505** Posted **Feb 6, 2015, 7:14 PM**

Rule number one of negotiating - ask for more than you want, so you can 'compromise' and give up the stuff you don't really care about and end up with something close to what you actually want. She may be be a nutcase, or she may just be following that playbook.

Sheba · #**506** Posted **Aug 9, 2015, 6:31 AM**

Resurrecting this thread as it's easier than starting a new one about lighting.

I was just looking at Stockholm and noticed that a lot of the street lights aren't lamp posts like the standard is here. Instead they have what's shown in this render for Station Square. Does anyone know what it's called (don't say pendant lights) and if there's anywhere else local that has this style of lighting?

From stationsquare.ca

AverageJoe · #**507** Posted **Aug 9, 2015, 7:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

Resurrecting this thread as it's easier than starting a new one about lighting.

I was just looking at Stockholm and noticed that a lot of the street lights aren't lamp posts like the standard is here. Instead they have what's shown in this render for Station Square. Does anyone know what it's called (don't say pendant lights) and if there's anywhere else local that has this style of lighting?

Are they high bay lights like these? Usually they're for indoor use like warehouses and gymnasiums.

Sheba · #**508** Posted **Aug 9, 2015, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe

Are they high bay lights like these? Usually they're for indoor use like warehouses and gymnasiums.

The 'old school lights' look similar to those - but these are definitely outdoor lights. Apparently Copenhagen has a lot of them too since at least the 1970's and a few years ago started replacing them (with something similar) due to energy efficient light bulbs needing newer fixtures.

trofirhen · #**509** Posted **May 10, 2016, 10:53 PM**

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Mercury_Vapor_Streetlight.JPG
The light poles in the CBD are functional, and that's great. But would it not be possible to have these? T.O., San Fran, and so many other
cities (including Seattle) do. They just add a crispness, an elegance to downtown, and I think it would enhance Vancouver greatly. I'm not calling for a city-wide program,
just the CBD, maybe parts of the West End.

Sheba · #**510** Posted **May 10, 2016, 11:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

The light poles in the CBD are functional, and that's great. But would it not be possible to have these? T.O., San Fran, and so many other
cities (including Seattle) do. They just add a crispness, an elegance to downtown, and I think it would enhance Vancouver greatly. I'm not calling for a city-wide program,
just the CBD, maybe parts of the West End.

My personal thoughts on that streetlight are blech! It doesn't do anything for me at all.

Maybe in more traditional areas they could install something like this

http://www.beaconlighting.com.au/alcazar-4lt-ext-s-lt-w-post-brnt-gold.html

More modern areas might like this

http://www.techfresh.net/smart-streetlight-by-igor-solovyov/

trofirhen · #**511** Posted **May 11, 2016, 12:25 AM**

http://www.uptown-houston.com/images/uploads/inline/Williams_w_Street_Light_440.jpg

HOUSTON TX

Sheba · #**512** Posted **May 11, 2016, 1:22 AM**

There are these streetlights along Beresford (also notice the lighting around the sidewalk planters)

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Originally Posted by vanman

Nice shots of the completed building from NSDA Architect's flickr.

MetroPlace by NSDA Architects, on Flickr

In Station Square they're installing this type of lighting

http://ec.europa.eu/environment/europeangreencapital/copenhagen-street-lamps/

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**513** Posted **Jul 4, 2016, 7:38 AM**

these are kind of cool, used in Old Portsmouth

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/62/e5/b2/62e5b27d895567ae2327a70b580024bd.jpg

these ones are cool to, using these in a more modern area of the city would be a cool idea i think.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-imag...g?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&

something like these would be good down the arbutus corridor; modern, clean, adds a bit of interest instead of just plain lights. either the more traditional car style or the more pedestrian level style. you would need to install more of the pedestrian ones, but they would make it more unique.

http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2010/05/175420,xcitefun-street-light-13.jpg

http://www.designboom.com/cms/images/-000m/333332.jpg

i have always liked these lamp-posts and always thought these should be used more when inside the west side area, i always thought it odd these are in a cheaper area compared to 1st Shaughnessy. in areas that are older, they should use these more to fit in the the era of the majority of houses, plus, tree lined streets are very elegant and so should be the lamp posts.

we should also have more lighting like what they put down Davie on other main drags downtown, and it would be nice down the Arbutus Greenway as well. except do it in all white.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/up...52661082023185_2927943972887849597_n.jpg

overall, light in the city sucks considering we are such a dark and dreary city most of the year. it is nice that pedestrian lighting is being added now, that helps a lot but it is on very few streets.

it is a shame a lot of these unique, cool lights were lost; 1945 600 block of Hastings @ Granville

LeftCoaster · #**514** Posted **Jul 4, 2016, 9:59 PM**

Love the scramble at Granville and Hastings.

Also the Davie lights have been broken for a long time now. Can't remember the last time I was in Van and they were working.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**515** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 1:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Also the Davie lights have been broken for a long time now. Can't remember the last time I was in Van and they were working.

really? that's disappointing, why bother installing them then if they wont last/don't get turned on. i don't go down there at night so never had a chance to look if they worked. i assumed they would have.

we need more lighting, not unused lighting.

dreambrother808 · #**516** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 4:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

really? that's disappointing, why bother installing them then if they wont last/don't get turned on. i don't go down there at night so never had a chance to look if they worked. i assumed they would have.

we need more lighting, not unused lighting.

More than likely some jerk probably cut them down, and probably repeatedly over time. You have no idea the kinds of damage people do on a regular basis.

Eventually the individuals in charge give up due to frustration and the costs involved.

EdinVan · #**517** Posted **May 28, 2017, 12:07 PM**

I see that the lights on Scotia Tower and the Vancouver Block, managed by GWL Realty, are now turned off at night. Sad to see these landmarks disappear in the night sky.

Vin · #**518** Posted **May 28, 2017, 7:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

really? that's disappointing, why bother installing them then if they wont last/don't get turned on. i don't go down there at night so never had a chance to look if they worked. i assumed they would have.

we need more lighting, not unused lighting.

That's CoV standards displayed for all to see. The LED light strings are not the most exciting lights to begin with, and now they are damaged and partially lit without the flashes going on. Rather 3rd world I'd say.

officedweller · #**519** Posted **Jun 2, 2017, 10:44 PM**

Even Harbour Centre was awash in purple last night - looked great!

BC landmarks light up purple for ALS month
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-place-science-world-light-up-purple

https://twitter.com/ALS_BC

trofirhen · #**520** Posted **Jun 2, 2017, 11:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by EdinVan

I see that the lights on Scotia Tower and the Vancouver Block, managed by GWL Realty, are now turned off at night. Sad to see these landmarks disappear in the night sky.

Agreed, but I think low-level lighting for pedestrians and streets is more important.
Downtown Vancouver streets, especially in the CBD, have a rather 'doom and gloom' feeling to them.