ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by testarossa50

Not in most of Buckhead. It's generally 3 lanes of cars in each direction with no turn lanes. Pretty disastrous outcome: the vast majority of traffic goes to the middle lane, with more aggressive drivers pushing the to right and left lanes to surge ahead of cars before darting into the middle to avoid MARTA/a biker/a left or right turner. Having two lanes in either direction, a turn lane in the middle, and right turn lanes where possible, will facilitate traffic flow and also create space for real sidewalks and a bike lane.

There are bike lanes on the boulevard project, I've ridden in them, but once they end, I take a lane. I'm an aggressive rider and refuse to yield to autos, everyone must share the road.

[ATLSkyPalaceOwner]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

I'm an aggressive rider and refuse to yield to autos, everyone must share the road.

Sounds like good thinking to me

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

The crane at Modera is going up right now.

Went up quick too:

[Buck]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/mixe...-for-massive-midtown-redevelopment-48782

Permits filed for "52 Seventeen Peachtree"

This project:

Excited about this one. It hasn't gotten too much conversation on here, but I really liked the renderings (and the height for northern Midtown).

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by Buck

Excited about this one. It hasn't gotten too much conversation on here, but I really liked the renderings (and the height for northern Midtown).

It's kind of far away from the 'heart of Midtown'. Not much action occurs up there....though with all of these development, that could very well change.
Just not a fan of Midtown north of 14th street. You can definitely feel it's the transitional zone from Midtown to Buckhead.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

It's kind of far away from the 'heart of Midtown'. Not much action occurs up there....though with all of these development, that could very well change.
Just not a fan of Midtown north of 14th street. You can definitely feel it's the transitional zone from Midtown to Buckhead.

Which is exactly what makes this an interesting development to me. I hope it happens in this current proposed form.

[jddar]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

It's kind of far away from the 'heart of Midtown'. Not much action occurs up there....though with all of these development, that could very well change.
Just not a fan of Midtown north of 14th street. You can definitely feel it's the transitional zone from Midtown to Buckhead.

I think it would be more accurate to call that area Ansley Park – especially the east side of Peachtree. In the 70's it would have been called Pershing Point or Ansley Park. I had a lot of friends living at Pershing Point then. It was really great! There was sort of a merging of the remnants of Hippie culture, the Punk scene, and the Gay Community all merged into a very cool little community that commingled.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by testarossa50

Not in most of Buckhead. It's generally 3 lanes of cars in each direction with no turn lanes. Pretty disastrous outcome: the vast majority of traffic goes to the middle lane, with more aggressive drivers pushing the to right and left lanes to surge ahead of cars before darting into the middle to avoid MARTA/a biker/a left or right turner. Having two lanes in either direction, a turn lane in the middle, and right turn lanes where possible, will facilitate traffic flow and also create space for real sidewalks and a bike lane.

They should do to Peachtree Rd in Buckhead what was done on Ponce. Better yet, add in separate cycle track. There's room for it. Right now it's 6 lanes, switch it to 2 lanes each direction, a center turn lane, and a two-way cycle track in the remaining space. This would probably actually *improve* traffic, just like the traffic was improved on Ponce.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by shivtim

They should do to Peachtree Rd in Buckhead what was done on Ponce.

That center turn lane on Ponce really helps.

[scania]

Originally Posted by Buck

Excited about this one. It hasn't gotten too much conversation on here, but I really liked the renderings (and the height for northern Midtown).

I agree! It will also make a great addition to the overall skyline.

[AtlHeel]

Originally Posted by Buck

Which is exactly what makes this an interesting development to me. I hope it happens in this current proposed form.

I think the reasons it's not getting that much attention are that the renderings are so preliminary (and not very clear) and it's so early in the process. I'm very excited about it - the design looks clean and interesting (and tall - perhaps 480
- 530 feet?)

[ATLmangum]

Anyone have a confirmed number of floors for Modera?

[ATLmangum]

Regarding Atlantic Station...why the lacknof development? Besides the proposed T3 (start date?) not much in the past few years. Feel like another hotel/apartment mixed use would make sense.

[MdtwnATL]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

It's kind of far away from the 'heart of Midtown'. Not much action occurs up there....though with all of these development, that could very well change.
Just not a fan of Midtown north of 14th street. You can definitely feel it's the transitional zone from Midtown to Buckhead.

I agree. I've always felt that the stretch of Peachtree after 14th Street, heading out from Midtown, has potential to become a great thoroughfare one day.

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by ATLmangum

Regarding Atlantic Station...why the lacknof development? Besides the proposed T3 (start date?) not much in the past few years. Feel like another hotel/apartment mixed use would make sense.

That's like opening a can of worms...but to sum it up a lack of good transit access, a slow(er) recovery since the Great Recession compared to other parts of town(they are just now filling office vacancies in several of the towers), changes in ownership, there are better real estate opportunities elsewhere in Midtown and/or Buckhead,

As far as developing the remaining lots within the urban grid of Atlantic Station there's a requirement that so much of the soil cannot be hauled off-site but must remain within a certain designated area on the project for environmental reasons. Which adds costs- not to mention the pro-forma for developing these sites just hasn't quite warranted the cost of the type of density needed on the more urban infill sites that remain.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Walked by Square on Fifth and it is officially open; quite a few people already moved in. So looks to be officially completed.

Also the Kale Me Crazy on the corner of Juniper and 6th has started build out of their retail space.

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

That's like opening a can of worms...but to sum it up a lack of good transit access, a slow(er) recovery since the Great Recession compared to other parts of town(they are just now filling office vacancies in several of the towers), changes in ownership, there are better real estate opportunities elsewhere in Midtown and/or Buckhead,

As far as developing the remaining lots within the urban grid of Atlantic Station there's a requirement that so much of the soil cannot be hauled off-site but must remain within a certain designated area on the project for environmental reasons. Which adds costs- not to mention the pro-forma for developing these sites just hasn't quite warranted the cost of the type of density needed on the more urban infill sites that remain.

I think that's the main reason. Most of the remaining sites are meant for large towers which are a harder to come by than the smaller projects they've had recently (SGI, Steelworks, etc). Worth noting there are something like a thousand units under construction around there now, just midrises rather than highrises.

I wouldn't consider lack of transit a factor because those lots along 17th are as close to MARTA as anything else in Midtown.

[jnihiser]

Is the Pollack Shores project on 14th, south of Atlantic Station going to extend all the way through the putting green? It appears they have removed the entire putting green for construction.

[Atlanta3000]

Three Alliance Center - Buckhead
Picture for today's Atlanta Business Chronicle.

[Atlanta3000]

Originally Posted by ATLmangum

Regarding Atlantic Station...why the lacknof development? Besides the proposed T3 (start date?) not much in the past few years. Feel like another hotel/apartment mixed use would make sense.

Not trying to give any inside info here, but we should see plans before year end for a large office (500K - 750K) and hotel project.

Except for NCR, the bulk of the major corporate relocations to Midtown have been to Atlantic Station. Current occupancy rate for the three large commercial buildings is 91% (1.4 Million square feet). This is significant because 3 years ago it was around 75%.