Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport (YOW/CYOW) 1.0 - Page 61

MountainView · #**1201** Posted **Jul 8, 2015, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by NOWINYOW

Int'l down a bit. Would that be attributed to the FRA flight being suspended over the winter season? Perhaps fewer charters to MEX and other non-US sun destinations?

Potentially. If we assume this was the only reason that YTD international is down and the FRA flight would have been flown daily there would be approximately 18,990 seats available to FRA from the beginning of December until the end of March. Again, assume a 85% load factor, giving us 16,100 passengers. Subtract this from the 2014 numbers of 267,228 and we are left with 251,128.

So under this assumption the numbers would be:
2014 YTD: 251,128
2015 YTD: 258,430
+1.02%

Alternatively, we could have added the 16,100 passengers to this years tally for a total of 274,530 YTD in 2015 (same +1.02%).

Dominion301 · #**1202** Posted **Jul 8, 2015, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by NOWINYOW

Int'l down a bit. Would that be attributed to the FRA flight being suspended over the winter season? Perhaps fewer charters to MEX and other non-US sun destinations?

Actually the int'l sun routes would have been up quite a bit, which is why int'l as a whole is only down 2% YTD. Same with May, with Air Transat no longer flying to LGW, but with Sunwing keeping VRA to the south year round, it means that TS' and WG's numbers have pretty much cancelled each other out, with AC recording a slight increase in pax numbers (but a slight decrease in load factor), which can be attributed to AC operating YOW-FRA daily this past May on the 763 vs. the 5x/week last May on the 333.

YOWhopeful · #**1203** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 2:04 PM**

Just flew Delta in June and July. Would you believe the flight maps in their magazine show Delta flight routes emanating from Ottawa to BOTH Detroit AND Atlanta? For both the June and July issues. Must be a typo. Any hints Delta might resume YOW-ATL?

YOWflier · #**1204** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 3:29 PM**

There were some strong hints (actually more than hints) about this a few months back. An OAG change report at one point actually showed YOW-ATL loaded (and I could search for it on Delta.com), but a subsequent OAG change report very shortly thereafter showed it had mysteriously disappeared.

MountainView · #**1205** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 3:39 PM**

I'm hoping it returns especially since the flight on US/AA to Charlotte is gone which made connections to the South a breeze. One would think it would have to be loaded soon for it to be available for the busier winter season for people heading to the south for the warmth.

As mentioned, it was daily for a week or two around Christmas this past year, then reverted to Saturdays only in Jan and Feb and is now gone. Was flown on the CRJ-900 (2 class configuration).

YOWflier · #**1206** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 5:34 PM**

In fact the OAG changes I described were above and beyond (occurred after) the temporary winter ATL flights. Anyway, I too am hopeful for this route's return.

Dominion301 · #**1207** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 2:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ac888yow

In fact the OAG changes I described were above and beyond (occurred after) the temporary winter ATL flights. Anyway, I too am hopeful for this route's return.

Well the flight returns on a CR9 for the two weeks around Christmas, but that's it at this point. It's amazing how much the US carriers have neglected/hacked YOW since the mergers (AA gone from ORD, US gone from CLT, US and DL both down to a mere 2x/day to PHL & DTW respectively)...but they've done that to countless mid-size US airports too. Only UA has roughly maintained capacity, but even with them it's a real head-scratcher that their current earliest departure of the day to IAD is at 1000!

On a few separate notes:
1) TODAY WestJet launch daily year-round Q400 service to YQM and increase service to YHZ to 2x/day and YHZ will become year-round with the Q400 sticking around throughout the winter months. It's incredible to think that a decade ago nobody offered nonstop service on YOW-YQM. Now there's 3 airlines with up to 4 flights per day.
2) About a month ago I received an email from Bearskin to do a survey. It looks like they're seriously considering a return the Ottawa marketplace, BUT they're taking a hard look at the Gatineau airport instead of YOW as that was part of the survey. YOW's fees, which are posted on their website, for 19 seaters are ridiculous.

On a further separate note, Halifax is poised to continue to expand its European route network yet again. Condor are going to add a weekly flight to Munich in addition to their Frankfurt service. YHZ will now have (during the summer 2016 season) direct European services to LHR, LGW, KEF, FRA, GLA, DUB/CDG and now MUC vs. LHR & FRA at YOW. I sure hope the YOW Airport Authority's new VP of Business Development can convince some new airlines to fly here and get the Airport Authority to think outside the AC box. YHZ has Condor, Icelandair, Air Transat and Europe Airpost.

Shouldn't YOW do the same and target secondary/leisure carriers too? Europe Airport could operate successfully here at least weekly over the summer months on a 73G. If DUB is the 'pax on-off' "tech stop" for them out of YHZ to CDG, couldn't KEF or St-Pierre, France be a 'pax on-off' "tech stop" on a YOW-CDG routing on a 73G?

I really think Icelandair will fly to the Capital eventually, but not until their 737MAXes start to enter their fleet.

Marcel_B · #**1208** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 7:01 PM**

Doesn't Westjet also fly from YHZ to GLA?

Dominion301 · #**1209** Posted **Jul 16, 2015, 5:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marcel_B

Doesn't Westjet also fly from YHZ to GLA?

Yes they do. Just launched a few weeks ago and this is their second year of YYT-DUB.

Dominion301 · #**1210** Posted **Jul 16, 2015, 5:12 PM**

The TSB has released final reports about 2 close-call runway incursions at YOW in 2013:

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1571691/...-macdonald-cartier-international-airport

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1570999/...on-at-ottawa-s-macdonald-cartier-interna

rocketphish · #**1211** Posted **Jul 16, 2015, 5:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

The TSB has released final reports about 2 close-call runway incursions at YOW in 2013:

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1571691/...-macdonald-cartier-international-airport

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1570999/...on-at-ottawa-s-macdonald-cartier-interna

More here:
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...t-runway-part-of-a-larger-problem-report

Dominion301 · #**1212** Posted **Jul 20, 2015, 1:21 PM**

Is anyone currently having trouble accessing the airport's website? I've tried 4-5 times over the past week, wanting to check for info, including the FIDS and can't get their site to work.

ars · #**1213** Posted **Jul 20, 2015, 2:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

Is anyone currently having trouble accessing the airport's website? I've tried 4-5 times over the past week, wanting to check for info, including the FIDS and can't get their site to work.

No problems here.

I noticed that they redesigned the website, maybe that is a possible cause for you?

Dominion301 · #**1214** Posted **Jul 23, 2015, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by ars

No problems here.

I noticed that they redesigned the website, maybe that is a possible cause for you?

Maybe it's a workplace thing? I'll give it a try from home tonight.

NOWINYOW · #**1215** Posted **Jul 25, 2015, 11:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

Sector / May-14 / May-15 / % Change
Dom: 304,834 / 307,385 / +0.8%
TB: 54,150 / 59,767 / +10.4%
Int'l: 20,046 / 20,279 / +1.2%
TTL: 379,030 / 387,431 / +2.2%

Sector / YTD 2014 / YTD 2015 / % Change
Dom: 1,330,643 / 1,336,331 / +0.4%
TB: 330,164 / 357,352 / +8.2%
Int'l: 267,228 / 258,430 / -3.3%
TTL: 1,928,035 / 1,952,113 / +1.2%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2014
Dom: 3,439,897 / +0.2%
TB: 768,473 / +3.7%
Int'l: 432,156 / -2.0%
TTL: 4,640,526 / +0.5%

Thoughts?

I came across an article posted from another site that might shed a bit of light on the relatively large jump in TB passenger traffic.
http://www.biv.com/article/2015/7/low-canadian-dollar-hits-bellingham-airport-passen/

With the CDN$ dropping in value in comparison to the US$, there's little to no value in driving to northern states' airports versus using Canadian airports. I would think airports like Syracuse, Burlington and Buffalo are seeing a drop in their passenger traffic.

sgera · #**1216** Posted **Jul 25, 2015, 6:46 PM**

High tech sector picking up is what I think ... TB growth tends to parallel tech industry

Dominion301 · #**1217** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by sgera

High tech sector picking up is what I think ... TB growth tends to parallel tech industry

Possibly. July will be the first full month of transborder stats without the daily CLT. Let's see if the big % increases continue.

Separately, if anyone's heading to YTZ, the long-awaited tunnel is now open: http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1578025/...f-billy-bishop-airport-pedestrian-tunnel

ars · #**1218** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 7:58 PM**

Apologies for my ignorance, but what does TB stand for?

eemy · #**1219** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 8:49 PM**

Transborder - flights to the US are considered separately from other international flights in Canadian airport statistics.

VaskoYOW · #**1220** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 10:19 PM**

Does anyone know why YOW-FRA is being diverted to YYZ tonight? The plane was above YQB, when it turned around and is schedule to land in YYZ at 18:45!