YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 386

Johnny Aussie · #**7701** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 9:13 PM**

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...ces_First_A380_Service_in_Vancouver.aspx

First indication the A380 will be summer seasonal.

"British Airways will operate the A380 daily from Vancouver to London for the summer season."

Not surprised. The 388 is just too large for the winter season.

Klazu · #**7702** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 9:15 PM**

My frequent flyer clubs of choice are from British Airways and Lufthansa, mostly due to traveling back to home when flying overseas. I also like how BA makes it possible to have a family account for gathering points. Haven't seen that on many other airlines.

I originally had Finnair's card, but that was just awful. I also fly so little that I mostly use my miles for buying Christmas presents from their webstores. BA points are also great for reserving free hotel nights.

I never went with the Aeroplan not do I gather Airmiles as I have understood that people have really hard time spending those anywhere. The whole frequent card business is also nonsense unless you fly a lot for work, which is the only chance to start really enjoying some benefits. For normal mortals they are pretty useless IMO.

I am sure our more frequently flying forumers have something to add to that.

Johnny Aussie · #**7703** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 10:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

My frequent flyer clubs of choice are from British Airways and Lufthansa, mostly due to traveling back to home when flying overseas. I also like how BA makes it possible to have a family account for gathering points. Haven't seen that on many other airlines.

I originally had Finnair's card, but that was just awful. I also fly so little that I mostly use my miles for buying Christmas presents from their webstores. BA points are also great for reserving free hotel nights.

I never went with the Aeroplan not do I gather Airmiles as I have understood that people have really hard time spending those anywhere. The whole frequent card business is also nonsense unless you fly a lot for work, which is the only chance to start really enjoying some benefits. For normal mortals they are pretty useless IMO.

I am sure our more frequently flying forumers have something to add to that.

Virgin Australia's Velocity program also allows family pooling which also helps expedite you to the higher tiers faster.

This is my last year with Aeroplan too. Good riddance!

Every year though FF plans keep scaling back benefits and making it harder to obtain status, more difficult to use for redemption flights , fees are going up upon redemption etc...

CareerShow · #**7704** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...ces_First_A380_Service_in_Vancouver.aspx

First indication the A380 will be summer seasonal.

"British Airways will operate the A380 daily from Vancouver to London for the summer season."

Not surprised. The 388 is just too large for the winter season.

What aircraft will they run in the winter time then, 772, 77W, or 747? Im still looking for at least a 3 weekly additional service next summer in addition to the a380.

nname · #**7705** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Virgin Australia's Velocity program also allows family pooling which also helps expedite you to the higher tiers faster.

This is my last year with Aeroplan too. Good riddance!

I think ANA and JAL also allows family pooling for non-Japanese I think. I'm actually thinking of switching to ANA from Aeroplan (which I just switched from EVA Air's program a few years back, as Aeroplan is much easier to get rewards, if anyone can believe this...)

Johnny Aussie · #**7706** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 10:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by CareerShow

What aircraft will they run in the winter time then, 772, 77W, or 747? Im still looking for at least a 3 weekly additional service next summer in addition to the a380.

When the first schedule change occurred and it went from 12 weekly 744s to 12 weekly 772s I thought there is no way that will stick. That was way too much of a reduction. Then when the scheds went to a daily A380 and the 5 weekly 772, that would have been overkill. A daily A380 is pretty good actually as it does cover the premium market but perhaps a bit low for the Y market. But perhaps they will add maybe a 3 weekly supplement on a 772 or even a 788?

Winter - a 77W would suffice for sure. But perhaps back to the 744 whilst they still have them.

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Originally Posted by nname

I think ANA and JAL also allows family pooling for non-Japanese I think. I'm actually thinking of switching to ANA from Aeroplan (which I just switched from EVA Air's program a few years back, as Aeroplan is much easier to get rewards, if anyone can believe this...)

I will agree with you on that. I have found getting redemption seats on Aeroplan to be not that bad. The odd pain but overall not toooo bad. For me it was the e-upgrade system and the AC metal requirement.

LeftCoaster · #**7707** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 11:44 PM**

Given their current capacity and a bit of growth factored in what would be a good combination for next summer? 380 and a daily 767 or 787?

Johnny Aussie · #**7708** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 12:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Given their current capacity and a bit of growth factored in what would be a good combination for next summer? 380 and a daily 767 or 787?

Their 763s are being phased out. Hard to tell at this point. So far it looks like it will be just the daily A380. I do find that airlines are rolling out their future plans earlier and earlier. At least publicly stating them I suppose.

Johnny Aussie · #**7709** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 12:44 AM**

Just released by YVR

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...n_to_Canada_s_China_Transit_Program.aspx

Five Chinese cities have been added to the Canada / China Transit Programs.

The new cities are: Xiamen, Fuzhou, Chengdu, Shenyang and Harbin.

That should pave the way for a nice Xiamen launch?

These cities are added to Beijing, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Manila, Taipei, Tokyo (both NRT and HND) and Seoul as the current approved cities/airports.

"Airlines currently participating in the program are: Air Canada, Air Canada rouge, Air China, WestJet, Cathay Pacific, Philippine Airlines, China Southern, Jazz Air, Sky Regional Airlines and Air Georgian."

So they need to get China Eastern and Sichuan on board too.... and then Hainan.

Johnny Aussie · #**7710** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 7:40 AM**

Condor and Edelweiss have just released their 2016 flight schedules.

Condor will maintain its four weekly service and on the same days as this year (Mon, Wed, Sat and Sun)

Edelweiss is also maintaining their three weekly service. However, they are moving from a Mon, Wed, Fri operation to a Tue, Thu, Sat operation.

Johnny Aussie · #**7711** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 9:46 PM**

Another great result. YVR just keeps rolling along.

Decent positive growth in all sectors. Big upticks in transborder, Asia Pacific and Europe.

http://www.yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/June_2015_Traffic_Update.sflb.ashx

Overall up 4.9% YTD up 5.2%

Domestic up 2.6% YTD up 2.4%
Transborder up 6.2% YTD up 11.1%
Asia Pacific up 8.9% YTD up 3.6%
Europe up 7.7% YTD up 8.2%
Misc Int'l up 5.3% YTD up 7.3%

June 2015 is up over 84,400 passengers compared to June 2014.
YTD June 2015 is up over 480,000 compared to the same period last year.

Cargo up 10.0% YTD up 11.5%. Highest June ever.

trofirhen · #**7712** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 10:29 PM**

http://www.yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/June_2015_Traffic_Update.sflb.ashx

Checking this, if every month of the year was like June in Pax Volume, we'd have 21,865,000 pax this year.
Are there any other peak months that might take up the off-season slack at all?
I don't think the cited number is attainable this year, but I understand it is predicted to be 20 million and x hundred thousand.

trofirhen · #**7713** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 10:59 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Just released by YVR

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...n_to_Canada_s_China_Transit_Program.aspx

Five Chinese cities have been added to the Canada / China Transit Programs...........

"Airlines currently participating in the program are: Air Canada, Air Canada rouge, Air China, WestJet, Cathay Pacific, Philippine Airlines, China Southern, ........
So they need to get China Eastern and Sichuan on board too.... and then Hainan.

Is there a reason China Eastern and Sichuan might be delayed or even unwilling to sign (though I cannot imagine that!)
Political/$$$/other causes?
Or is the just the passage of the administrative processing over a given time? I assume maybe Hainan would be last as it's the most recent to announce an new route.
But What about China Eastern and Sichuan? I would have thought China Eastern would be among the first.

Johnny Aussie · #**7714** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 12:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Is there a reason China Eastern and Sichuan might be delayed or even unwilling to sign (though I cannot imagine that!)
Political/$$$/other causes?
Or is the just the passage of the administrative processing over a given time? I assume maybe Hainan would be last as it's the most recent to announce an new route.
But What about China Eastern and Sichuan? I would have thought China Eastern would be among the first.

Cannot really see why China Eastern or Sichuan are not on the list.

Perhaps we should email them the link to the application process

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ctp/authorities.asp

Johnny Aussie · #**7715** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 5:09 AM**

This helps explain some of the growth.. especially the increase in transborder this year.

American, European, Chinese and Middle Eastern tourist numbers up up up and up.

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Van...ican+visitors+return/11258723/story.html

"Barnes, who has been with Fairmont since 2004, said it’s the strongest summer hotel market he has ever seen in Vancouver"

Klazu · #**7716** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 5:48 AM**

Yeah, almost every hotel room and accommodation in Vancouver has been fully booked all summer. It has been difficult for people to travel to Vancouver on business with no availability at certain times.

casper · #**7717** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Yeah, almost every hotel room and accommodation in Vancouver has been fully booked all summer. It has been difficult for people to travel to Vancouver on business with no availability at certain times.

Any new hotels under construction?

hollywoodnorth · #**7718** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 11:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by casper

Any new hotels under construction?

http://trumpvancouver.com/

along with the 2 at the Casino @ BC Place

casper · #**7719** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 4:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

http://trumpvancouver.com/

along with the 2 at the Casino @ BC Place

I always thought of the TRUMP building a residential tower but it is a hotel.

Wow what a website together with the Videos that defies a certain "hotel experience" that says "Second generation money, with no discipline or responsibility". The airport may need to add more spots for private jets.

SFUVancouver · #**7720** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...ces_First_A380_Service_in_Vancouver.aspx

First indication the A380 will be summer seasonal.

"British Airways will operate the A380 daily from Vancouver to London for the summer season."

Not surprised. The 388 is just too large for the winter season.

How about that!? I pleased as punch with the news. Totally called it!