Edmonton Construction 12 (December 2013)

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

That's really too bad for Communitas' plan was nice. That said, wrong proposal in the wrong area. Swap that for Blatchford and put some 4 storey stick like we are seeing on 116st there.

it's not that simple. and blatchford isn't how to do it right.

but it's not just fort road and blatchford that we need to be concerned about. the city's current land development activities are summarized here:

http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/d...ch=municipal%20development%20corporation

but even that wasn't the full extent of what i'm referencing. for your reading enjoyment and pleasure:

"Recommendation:

That Executive Committee recommend to City Council:

That Administration proceed with the start-up strategy as outlined in Attachment 1 of the January 20, 2015, Sustainable Development report CR_1708, to establish a municipally owned and controlled for-profit land development corporation to focus on City-building initiatives in addition to earning profits, and return to City Council with the following by the end of the second quarter of 2015:

a) A detailed list of City land assets that could be transferred to a municipal
development corporation and an analysis of the financial and other costs and benefits to the City and to the corporation for each proposed transfer.

b) A detailed business plan showing projected cash flows for a municipal
development corporation, and proposed funding sources and requirements for the corporation’s operating and capital costs for its first three years.

c) A draft application to the Minister of Municipal Affairs requesting approval to establish a for-profit municipally controlled land
development corporation.

d) A budget adjustment of up to $2 million for start-up costs to be brought forward for consideration as part of the Spring Operating Supplementary Budget Adjustment."

http://sirepub.edmonton.ca/sirepub/cache/2/fdefj2nlpt1wbanvs4tus4at/39956207242015093226848.PDF

http://sirepub.edmonton.ca/sirepub/agdocs.aspx?doctype=agenda&itemid=44698

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

Fort Road's Station Pointe development lost in the weeds
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Fort+Road+development+lost+weeds/11239691/story.html

There just too many large scale new communities being carved out of former industrial or underused land and not enough people wanting to live in them. If been saying this for years. East Jasper, North Edge, Blatchford, etc etc etc....At some point there is going to be massive disappointment with results of some or many of these.

[Mikemike]

Station point was an afterthought to the road widening anyway, and who wants to live sandwiched between a rail line and a 6+ lane traffic sewer no matter how nice the sidewalks are.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Mikemike

Station point was an afterthought to the road widening anyway, and who wants to live sandwiched between a rail line and a 6+ lane traffic sewer no matter how nice the sidewalks are.

Greyhound??

[Daveography]

Originally Posted by Mikemike

Station point was an afterthought to the road widening anyway, and who wants to live sandwiched between a rail line and a 6+ lane traffic sewer no matter how nice the sidewalks are.

That road kills me everytime I see it. It's so unnecessarily wide and just kills any chance that area ever had of being a walkable, pedestrian- and transit-oriented neighbourhood, way more than the Transit Hotel or its clients ever could.

So frustrating.

[Black Star]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Greyhound??

Actually a really good thought. If the Via idea falls through who knows.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

VIA could have - should have - moved their station next to the LRT line. Probably too late for that now.

[Coldrsx]

Edmonton Plans a Bright and Exciting Future


July 23, 2015

The City of Edmonton’s newest annual report puts the spotlight on how a growing, vibrant city builds for today and decades into the future.

Readers of the first-ever City Planning Annual Report will gain a thorough understanding of some of the principles behind good city planning as well as dozens of examples and quick facts from projects completed or underway in 2014.

link to report

http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/documents/2014-SD-Annual-City-Planning-Report.pdf

“We wanted this report to show Edmontonians the incredible depth and variety of plans and projects happening right now to turn our shared vision into reality,” says Peter Ohm, Branch Manager, Urban Planning and Environment. “Equally important, the document throws open an invitation to citizens to share their ideas and preferences about what our city-builders right across the organization are accomplishing. I know that Edmontonians are full of innovative and exciting ideas to make our city even better!”

Residents are invited to check out the report and then tweet @PlanEdmonton or email [email protected] with ideas and photos about creating a city that continues to be a great place to live, work and play.

http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/news/edmonton-plans-a-bright-and-exciting-future.aspx

[canucklehead2]

As a resident of the Northeast, it's indeed sad to see Station Pointe undeveloped but I think its weaknesses are also its strengths. It just needs some pioneering people to develop first. Of course a housing co-op was the perfect fit since trying to lure developers to an undesirable in a city with lots of choice was going to be an uphill battle at the best of times...

Too bad that deal fell through but I do think maybe partnering a private developer with Capital Region Housing Corporation for a mixed-income project would be nice to see. The area still needs affordable housing but ghettoizing it in a project without market units is always a bad idea...

[hilman]

https://twitter.com/Dole0124

[Coldrsx]

That might be the first image that conveys what the final product is going to feel like.

[Black Star]

This is one sharp tower. Also ultima is a real stand out with its height from most directions looking downtown.

[hilman]

https://twitter.com/IceDistrict

[Landlocked]

Originally Posted by Daveography

That road kills me everytime I see it. It's so unnecessarily wide and just kills any chance that area ever had of being a walkable, pedestrian- and transit-oriented neighbourhood, way more than the Transit Hotel or its clients ever could.

So frustrating.

For now you're correct. I'm not so sure 15 years down the line when the Edmonton Energy and Technology park has developed much further.

[Daveography]

^ I remain skeptical, unless they convert those outer lanes to metered parking and/or bike lanes. Wide roads really tend to be antithetical to good urban design and walkability.

[Coldrsx]

^exactly. I was reminded of how ridiculous our roadway design is when on Bloor and or Queen East the other day. Rush hour 4 lanes ok, but outside of that 1 lane each way with pay parking on both sides and just wide enough for bikes to go between pay and traffic with boxes at intersections in some cases. Traffic moves well enough and at a speed suited to match with bikes, peds etc... about 30-40.

[hilman]

https://twitter.com/portiaclarkcbc

[s4.audios]

Nice shot, practically the same view as from the original render. Thanks for posting Hilman.

[technomad]

Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

VIA could have - should have - moved their station next to the LRT line. Probably too late for that now.

Don't see why not? VIA station is pretty small, can't have cost much.. and Statione Pointeee would work much better as a combined greyhound/VIA station with a direct tie in to Belevedere

Fix the road access, and I bet you could induce at least a hotel or two, onward and upward from there

[feepa]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^exactly. I was reminded of how ridiculous our roadway design is when on Bloor and or Queen East the other day. Rush hour 4 lanes ok, but outside of that 1 lane each way with pay parking on both sides and just wide enough for bikes to go between pay and traffic with boxes at intersections in some cases. Traffic moves well enough and at a speed suited to match with bikes, peds etc... about 30-40.

and a real high capacity/high frequency subway + trolley system, 24 hour transit, a freeway system that includes downtown. not purposely avoids; decent heavy rail too ...doesn't help much. When will we get some of this in Edmonton...

I'm not advocating that we have good road design, or that fort road needs to be what it is... Just that we do everything poorly here in unison, creating the mess we have now.
I'm thankful I can walk to work in under 5 minutes, and enjoy a decent sized house. No commuting for me.