Metro Vancouver Bike & Pedestrian Discussion - Page 185

TransitJack · #**3681** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 6:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

Maybe Vancouver should ban cars around schools during drop-off / pick-up times...

Huh?

tybuilding · #**3682** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 6:01 PM**

There is a new bike parkade at King George station. It actually opened last week.

http://buzzer.translink.ca/2015/07/king-george-station-bike-parkade-is-now-open/

WarrenC12 · #**3683** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 6:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by tybuilding

There is a new bike parkade at King George station. It actually opened last week.

http://buzzer.translink.ca/2015/07/king-george-station-bike-parkade-is-now-open/

$1/day to $8/month max is great for commuters. Makes much more sense at the end of the line.

It was also built into the Main St. upgrades, but that's a weird spot to jump on a train to continue your commute unless you're "reverse commuting".

deasine · #**3684** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 8:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

$1/day to $8/month max is great for commuters. Makes much more sense at the end of the line.

It was also built into the Main St. upgrades, but that's a weird spot to jump on a train to continue your commute unless you're "reverse commuting".

Similar parkades are considered with future transit projects...

WarrenC12 · #**3685** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

Similar parkades are considered with future transit projects...

Like every station upgrade?

It's a good idea in theory, much better than actually taking bikes on trains. Main St. seems like a weird one to start, but I guess the future will show how well it gets used. Surrey stations seem like a no brainer.

GlassCity · #**3686** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 8:55 PM**

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Sheba · #**3687** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 9:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Like every station upgrade?

It's a good idea in theory, much better than actually taking bikes on trains. Main St. seems like a weird one to start, but I guess the future will show how well it gets used. Surrey stations seem like a no brainer.

Half of the bigger station upgrades are getting one. I just took a quick look and Broadway, Joyce and Metrotown are getting bike parkades. I didn't see anything for New West (no space for one) or Scott Road (odd as there's space). Who knows what's going to happen to Surrey Central.

Klazu · #**3688** Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 1:02 AM**

I have been biking a lot this week (Metrotown and back, Richmond and Back, today around Burrard Inlet). I have to say that I REALLY like the Spirit Trail in North Vancouver. It is just so sad that there is that one first nations section where no trail exists. It makes the two ends to disconnected.

I wonder what the problem there is? There is a great trail through the Capilano first nations lands. What's the difference to this?

If completed on day, Spirit Trail might be the second best bike trail in Lower Mainland after Seawall.

Klazu · #**3689** Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 3:08 AM**

Few cell phone shots of Canada Line Skytrain bridge over Fraser. It's a very convenient bike ride over the river.

WarrenC12 · #**3690** Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 3:30 AM**

I used to ride it every day to work. Great bridge, but the connections on each side are weak... there have been some improvements on the Vancouver side, but the Richmond side is bad. Doesn't feel very safe in the dark (which it is on a typical commute both ways in the winter).

Klazu · #**3691** Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 3:34 AM**

I think on Richmond side the "does not feel safe" comes from the fact that the area is full of old industrial buildings. The roads themselves are very low traffic and wide, so I didn't have a problem there.

But yeah, the connections could be better. I had to navigate to get where I wanted. That is the problem with most of our bike infrastructure. There are not enough maps and there are places where it is easy to lose the trail you were following. There are signs, but some areas are not so well signed. Always room for improvement.

WarrenC12 · #**3692** Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

I think on Richmond side the "does not feel safe" comes from the fact that the area is full of old industrial buildings. The roads themselves are very low traffic and wide, so I didn't have a problem there.

That might depend which way you go. I turned L down river road in Richmond, which is a 2 lane road that serves some industrial areas (with trucks), and no sidewalks. I passed a fair amount of pedestrians as well, not great for them either. It definitely needs an upgrade when all of the new residents move into the area (on the Richmond side - can't remember the development name).

dandor31 · #**3693** Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 7:21 PM**

It looks like there have been some updates and more details after some community consultation for the Burrard Bridge North project. The PDF plan view shows the actual street improvements and cross sections. All in all, I like it! The bridge extension to give everyone access to their own parts of the bridge is a great solution.

I was hoping they were going to be able to have the SB bus stop on Burrard a little closer to Pacific, but looking through the documents it looks like they are at least planning on moving it to Drake (about 1/2 a block south from the current stop at Burnaby) according to the consultation notes.

It's not prominent in the drawing, but I like how there have put the NB bike lane separated from the bus lane for at least the blocks after Pacific. I think it stays this way until Burnaby, but there aren't any notes on it. I think its great to separate busses from bikes; I'm not a fan of the shared bike/bus lanes, as they 🞵🞵🞵🞵 for either user, especially up hills. (My pet peeve right now is the shared curb lane up Main St from 2nd Ave to Broadway, there should be a separate painted bike lane at least, but I digress)

For NB cyclist coming off the Bridge, they are adding a bike box to do the turn to WB onto Pacific. As well, there will be be a bike box EB on Pacific to continue straight infront of the double left turn lane. This can be used by SB cyclists on Burrard as well.

The stairs down to the lane between Hornby and Howe (off of Pacific) was opposed by residents and will likely be removed to preserve access to parking/loading areas in the lane. I'd rather have the stairs if it were my lane, but doesn't really affect me.

Here is the report that details the results of the community consultation and lots of good details.

WarrenC12 · #**3694** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 5:09 PM**

Bike lane traffic hits record high in June:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...affic-hits-record-high-in-june-1.3166162

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The city says there's also been a big jump in people riding their bikes along the Point Grey bike lane following the completion of the Seaside Greenway last summer.

I rode this section (finally) a few weeks back. I have no idea what all of the fuss is about, it seems pretty minor compared to some of the other major cycling infrastructure that has been built in the last 5 years.

aberdeen5698 · #**3695** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I rode this section (finally) a few weeks back. I have no idea what all of the fuss is about, it seems pretty minor compared to some of the other major cycling infrastructure that has been built in the last 5 years.

The fuss wasn't because it was technically difficult or expensive to build, it was from all the people who didn't want it to be built.

WarrenC12 · #**3696** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

The fuss wasn't because it was technically difficult or expensive to build, it was from all the people who didn't want it to be built.

I realize that, but that's the point: it's a few isolated blocks of large homes. Who really cares.

Klazu · #**3697** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 5:53 PM**

I did a Port Mann Bridge - Pattullo Bridge loop bicycle ride yesterday. What a fantastic and not steep bikeway over PMB! Huge photo update coming when I just find some time to edit my photos.

Pattullo on the other hand...

WarrenC12 · #**3698** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Pattullo on the other hand...

You're lucky to be alive!

In all seriousness I'm very interested in the connections to these bridges for cycling, more so than the bridge itself, which I'm sure it great.

aberdeen5698 · #**3699** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

In all seriousness I'm very interested in the connections to these bridges for cycling...

Me too. If Klazu has any photos that show the cycling connections on the north side of the bridge it would be very much appreciated. From what I can tell the south side seems pretty straightforward.

csbvan · #**3700** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 10:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Bike lane traffic hits record high in June:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...affic-hits-record-high-in-june-1.3166162

Interesting quote:

I rode this section (finally) a few weeks back. I have no idea what all of the fuss is about, it seems pretty minor compared to some of the other major cycling infrastructure that has been built in the last 5 years.

Huge growth and numbers for the Burrard Street Bridge and Science World. A lot of people are coming from the Westside to Downtown via bike it would seem. It's also interesting to see the growth on the routes that have the best infrastructure and recent upgrades.