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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 1:39 AM
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Wft. such a bland mess!!!
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 2:59 PM
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It's a residential tower. In Vancouver. You really expect anything else?
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 4:04 PM
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Wft. such a bland mess!!!
I thought so right from the start but back then it was a bit "politically incorrect" not to like it. The office building itself is nice enough,
and I really like the wooden archway, but the "zig-zagginess" and tottering, boxy effect of the tall residential
tower has always irked me. I prefer the style of the western side
of the building, but many feel it's too bland, anyway.

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It's a residential tower. In Vancouver. You really expect anything else?
There must be some successful residential towers in Vancouver, ... like, ... er ... (can you name one?)
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 4:24 PM
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I thought so right from the start but back then it was a bit "politically incorrect" not to like it. The office building itself is nice enough,
and I really like the wooden archway, but the "zig-zagginess" and tottering, boxy effect of the tall residential
tower has always irked me. I prefer the style of the western side
of the building, but many feel it's too bland, anyway.



There must be some successful residential towers in Vancouver, ... like, ... er ... (can you name one?)
One Wall Centre & Wall Centre Residential tower (1050 Burrard). Patina.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 5:35 PM
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There must be some successful residential towers in Vancouver, ... like, ... er ... (can you name one?)
No need to be always so melodramatic. One Wall Centre, Trump Tower and Jameson House come to mind immediately. Yes, there is a lot of generic towers like in any city around the world, but we have our share of landmark residential buildings as well.

But there is no denying that it is disappointing how this tower was hoped to join that list, but thanks to cheap cladding it fails to make it.
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There must be some successful residential towers in Vancouver, ... like, ... er ... (can you name one?)
There have been quite a few recent-ish residential towers in Vancouver that I like, including:

Woodwards W43 tower

Carina & Callisto

West Pender Place

Jameson House

There are a few on Robson that I think are also pretty solid and definitely my go-to examples of well-handled, mid-market mixed-use projects.

Robson & Cambie

Robson & Homer

Robson & Richards
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Old Posted Jul 11, 2015, 4:39 AM
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Pics by me today at about 1 pm.

The spandrel is interesting because the inside opaque glass is recessed - like a shadow box.

I don't think that's typical.

But still uninspired....



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Old Posted Jul 11, 2015, 6:30 PM
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The new podium glass blends in well with everything around it (lower centre in pic below).



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Old Posted Jul 11, 2015, 8:49 PM
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Most random out-of-place corner ever. When did curves becomes part of the design language? 45-degree bevels are so 80's. I have to assume it was a rushed last-minute remedy for a previously-unaddressed viewcone... in which case, put that floor area somewhere else and make a clean cut!
-pic from BuiltForm

Just looking at this large tree in the rendering got me thinking; will they use a native species or a goofy ornamental variety... I was at english bay the other day and I noticed that the tree atop Eugenia Place Tower (vancouvers most famous condo tree) is DEAD! It got me doing some research and I found an interesting tidbit on condopedia:

"There's no argument that the Pin Oak tree on top of Eugenia Place is unique. Henriquez thought long and deeply about the building with a tree on it, but when asked about caring for the tree itself, he replied, "I never thought about it."

Access to the tree is only through the top floor penthouse so arborists - and their equipment - must tromp through the elevator and apartment without scratching surfaces to attend the tree. Oaks can be afflicted with various tree illnesses such as caterpillar feeding and Leucanium scale, an insect that damages the tree by sucking juice from its leaves. Pruning usually removes the problem but debris must then be hauled manually down, back through the apartment and the elevators.
The non-native oak (to BC) is naturally programmed to grow to 100 feet. The current 37 foot tree is about as large as it can get for the size of pot it is in and the amount of soil available - 100,000 pounds."
http://www.condopedia.com/wiki/Eugenia_Place - Laurence Putnam


I wonder what the maintenance costs for these large roof trees will be in 30-50 years, how often does the membrance beneath all the weight of the tree and soil need replacing? The tree likely died from no water recently which makes me wonder if the condo attached to the tree is possibly vacant? Maybe another foreign owned abandoned property.

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Old Posted Jul 11, 2015, 9:06 PM
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In regards to the viewcone slicing in; They made some decent lemonade from lemons here. you have to admit, its one of the few remaining interesting architectural details that hopefully gets fully executed, balcony planters and all.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2015, 5:53 AM
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The spandrel is interesting because the inside opaque glass is recessed - like a shadow box.

I don't think that's typical.

But still uninspired....


That is interesting. Here's a closer look.



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Old Posted Jul 12, 2015, 6:10 AM
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We have a plaza! And we can see it now, or at least most of it.

Also, it seems things are going to get a lot messier in front of the Kingston Hotel. I asked the flag person when the sidewalk was going to be finished up and reopened and she said there is going to be a very deep trench dug soon in order to lay some pipes or some sort of utility line that will be connecting the condo tower to the office tower.



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Old Posted Jul 14, 2015, 8:41 PM
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The kingston hotel really needs a new colour scheme now that it has a slick new neighbor surrounding it. Love that old neon sign though, looks like it may have had more neon on it in the past. Would love to see some sharp looking updates to the kingston once telus is done.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2015, 6:47 AM
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Here are some shots I took today from the Westin Grand Hotel, about the 15th or 16th floor level (even though it's called #20).

In the first pic you can see how the top of the Capitol Residences tower (on the left) is cut off, which mirrors the way the top of the Telus Garden condo tower will be shaped. Presumably both conforming to a view cone.



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Old Posted Jul 16, 2015, 8:19 AM
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I used to have a shower curtain that was the colour of those spandrels.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2015, 9:18 PM
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I really wish they'd install a trellis of some sort (maybe on like on Woodwards) in front of all the vertical spandrel. That would instantly liven up this otherwise extremely dull building.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2015, 10:26 PM
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Damn bra, that glulam off the hook... birdcages, pass.


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Old Posted Jul 16, 2015, 11:14 PM
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Those birdcages are dumb. That's not their permanent location, is it?
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 5:02 AM
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Those birdcages are dumb. That's not their permanent location, is it?
No. Since I took that pic last weekend they have been moved closer to the white marble walls in a patio arrangement. I'll try to get a pic tomorrow.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 5:48 AM
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