CHICAGO | Wolf Point - West Tower | 493 FT | 48 FLOORS - Page 111

BVictor1 · #**2201** Posted **Jun 19, 2015, 2:27 AM**

06/17/15

BVictor1 · #**2202** Posted **Jun 27, 2015, 5:28 AM**

Looks like we're at the setbacks. This is now nearly topped out.

BVictor1 · #**2203** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 3:33 AM**

06/29/15

Skyguy_7 · #**2204** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 2:06 PM**

^ Looks like the final columns

I learned a juicy nugget yesterday- I know I guy who worked for Chris Kennedy and he told me that the intention has always been to put the Casino at WP. It could definitely work below the plaza of the south and west towers. No windows needed. What an incredible location that would be. He also told me that caissons for the next phases are in the ground. I've mentioned this before.. Can anyone recall seeing a Case rig just before they put the parking lot in?

LouisVanDerWright · #**2205** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 2:14 PM**

Theres no way the cassions are in for the next phases. Those would have been some very large diameter cassions for us to simply not notice them being drilled and poured. Also, when you are building a 900' building, you better make sure you have your design 100% sorted out before you start putting foundations in.

rlw777 · #**2206** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 3:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

^ Looks like the final columns

I learned a juicy nugget yesterday- I know I guy who worked for Chris Kennedy and he told me that the intention has always been to put the Casino at WP. It could definitely work below the plaza of the south and west towers. No windows needed. What an incredible location that would be. He also told me that caissons for the next phases are in the ground. I've mentioned this before.. Can anyone recall seeing a Case rig just before they put the parking lot in?

Yeah... I think this guy you know is full of —. As mentioned by others above caissons are not in the ground for the either of the next phases and a Casino has never been a part of any of the planning for this location nor could it ever get approval here.

The North One · #**2207** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 3:25 PM**

Finally we get to cover up that disgusting sun times building.

Pilton · #**2208** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 4:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

^ Looks like the final columns

I learned a juicy nugget yesterday- I know I guy who worked for Chris Kennedy and he told me that the intention has always been to put the Casino at WP. ...

Not likely. But, anything's possible in Chicago. And, it would take another amendment of the current zoning ordinance for PD 98.

Section 7 of the developer's Plan of Deveopment attached and made part of the recent (2012) amendment says:

"At the request of the applicant, and in spite of this not being a defined term, or permitted use, in the Chicago Zoning Ordinance at the time of the filing for this amendment to Planned Development No. 98, a casino, or other similar gaming or wagering facilities, will not be allowed in Sub Area B."

Sub Area B is Wolf Point.

JK47 · #**2209** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 7:55 PM**

If I had to pick a site to develop into a Casino I'd point to the General Growth property on the river. The owners, if and when they resolve their dispute, seem interested in developing the property and it's close to CTA stations, two Metra stations, the Kennedy, and its primary street access would be on Wacker with access to lower Wacker for service vehicles and supplies. Connections to the Riverwalk and the sight lines for a gaming floor out over the river seem like added bonuses.

rlw777 · #**2210** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 8:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by JK47

If I had to pick a site to develop into a Casino I'd point to the General Growth property on the river. The owners, if and when they resolve their dispute, seem interested in developing the property and it's close to CTA stations, two Metra stations, the Kennedy, and its primary street access would be on Wacker with access to lower Wacker for service vehicles and supplies. Connections to the Riverwalk and the sight lines for a gaming floor out over the river seem like added bonuses.

I would prefer no Casino than one on wolf point or anywhere near the river. They are always kitschy monstrosities. If Chicago is going to have a casino put it on a boat in lake Michigan.

Notyrview · #**2211** Posted **Jul 1, 2015, 8:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by rlw777

I would prefer no Casino than one on wolf point or anywhere near the river. They are always kitschy monstrosities. If Chicago is going to have a casino put it on a boat in lake Michigan.

I couldn't agree more with this. Please, out to sea.

ardecila · #**2212** Posted **Jul 2, 2015, 1:08 AM**

It won't be at Wolf Point or General Growth. To get the type of tax revenue that everybody keeps talking about, any casino operator is going to demand a huge site with a single enormous gaming floor and ample parking. A — boat would not be big enough, and even if it was, it would raise a fight over the lakefront that makes the Lucas Museum fight look like a polite ladies' luncheon.

If the casino is downtown, it would have to be at the Post Office, CMK/River City riverfront parcels, or the Rezko/Riverside Park property. At a higher cost, you could build it over the Kennedy, Ogilvie trainshed, or Union Station yards, or possibly do some kind of large-scale clearance in the area between the Eisenhower and Roosevelt. There are other large sites out in the neighborhoods (Finkl, IMD, Michael Reese, US Cell parking lots).

Crown Casino in Melbourne:

jpIllInoIs · #**2213** Posted **Jul 2, 2015, 1:20 PM**

^ Yeah, No chance for Wolf Point casino...access too restricted, No Way is it going to be a boat.. 5 months a year it is not tolerable on the Lake.

The Post Office makes too much sense. Huge indoor parking is achievable. Easy access to multi transit modes. Huge hotel potential and enormous floor plates... And the immediate surrounding area is not really a developed neighborhood so not as much nimby push back. West loop or South loop cannot claim it.

bcp · #**2214** Posted **Jul 2, 2015, 5:05 PM**

way too much of a no brainer...that could be pretty amazing and seems to have it all, union station and blue-line within two blocks, river access (upgrade time).

plus room for a towers if ever needed in that SE corner of the lot (though you could probably get 1,500 hotel rooms into that building? total SWAG there...)

sage · #**2215** Posted **Jul 2, 2015, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by jpIllInoIs

The Post Office makes too much sense. Huge indoor parking is achievable. Easy access to multi transit modes. Huge hotel potential and enormous floor plates... And the immediate surrounding area is not really a developed neighborhood so not as much nimby push back. West loop or South loop cannot claim it.

As long as they make it a postal-themed casino, I'm okay with that.

Ogdenman36 · #**2216** Posted **Jul 2, 2015, 7:46 PM**

Long time reader of this forum and first post! Used to live in Edgewater in the 90s, now the burbs. Question and I apologize for this has probably been answered, but when is Phase 2 set to begin as well as Phase 3? Thanks!

BVictor1 · #**2217** Posted **Jul 2, 2015, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ogdenman36

Long time reader of this forum and first post! Used to live in Edgewater in the 90s, now the burbs. Question and I apologize for this has probably been answered, but when is Phase 2 set to begin as well as Phase 3? Thanks!

Welcome to the forum. There's no specific timetable for the next phases. At this moment there's no specific programming for phase 2 or 3. It's all about demand and financing. There will be more public meetings when information in future phases comes to fruition.

BVictor1 · #**2218** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 2:39 AM**

Graffiti on the core and it isn't even good.

07/06/15

07/08/15

Fasteners on the column for cladding.

harryc · #**2219** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 2:56 AM**

6/29

6/30

7/06

7/07

streetline · #**2220** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 4:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Graffiti on the core and it isn't even good.

After that graffiti, they seem to have discovered a new passion for security lighting. You can see the top of the tower like a solar eclipse in the fog even when it's occluded by other buildings right now.