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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 1:24 AM
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Not sure if this was posted but the Blue Bombers posted a $3.9 million profit at IGF field last year surpassing the Eskimos and Roughriders profits.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-blue-bombers-post-3-9m-operating-profit-1.3024813
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 1:27 AM
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Not sure if this was posted but the Blue Bombers posted a $3.9 million profit at IGF field last year surpassing the Eskimos and Roughriders profits.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-blue-bombers-post-3-9m-operating-profit-1.3024813

Ya that was being discussed on the cfl forum. Seems like creative accounting that winnipeg can have larger profts than saskatchewan.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 1:40 AM
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Not really the new revenue streams IGF provides the Bombers is night and day compared to old Winnipeg Stadium even after the yearly payments back to the province for the loan to build IGF. Also arguably the Bombers have the second most loyal and large fan base in the CFL after the Roughriders( the Eskimos are in similar fan base size and popularity to the Bombers)and are a huge deal in Manitoba once Jets season is over and are a large part of the cultural fabric in Winnipeg over the last 80 some years.
     
     
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What about the whole roughriders account for over 50 percent of league merch sales thing?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 1:58 AM
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What about the whole roughriders account for over 50 percent of league merch sales thing?
Blue Bombers: Operating revenue of $26,769,347

Roughriders: Operating revenue of $42.4 million.
-For the third time in five years, the Riders exceeded $9 million in merchandise sales with a total of $9.4 million.
-The Riders ticket revenue ($15 million) and merchandise sales nearly totalled the Bombers entire operating revenue.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 1:59 AM
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Oh I don't doubt the Riders may account for over 50% of the CFL's merchandise sales they are up there with the Habs and Leafs in national popularity. However after the Riders I believe it is possible the Bombers are the 2nd most popular team in the league with a tough 3 way race for that spot between the Bombers Stamps and Eskies. Football on the prairies is way of life here in the West.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 2:06 AM
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Oh I don't doubt the Riders may account for over 50% of the CFL's merchandise sales they are up there with the Habs and Leafs in national popularity. However after the Riders I believe it is possible the Bombers are the 2nd most popular team in the league with a tough 3 way race for that spot between the Bombers Stamps and Eskies. Football on the prairies is way of life here in the West.
Agreed. There's never been a more exciting time to be a CFL fan. I really hope the Ticats and Renegades fan base continues on with their great intensity of last year. The Argos... Well, I just want to see them profitable.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 2:08 AM
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$42 million to $26 million sounds right, Imagine if the Bombers had a winning team like the Riders have had this past decade that number would probably be much closer. In the summer of 2011 and the whole Swagerville craze going on when the Bombers were winning it was very close in popularity to what the Riders have been producing. This town is starved for a winner for 25 years now and if the Bombers could finally win an 11th Grey Cup Winnipeg would pour many millions more into the bombers coffers.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 2:15 AM
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The best part of the Bombers profit statement is only 37% of their revenue was from ticket sales this means a much healthier outlook long term for the team and the CFL.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 3:00 AM
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Nobody is gonna disagree with you there. IGF has its faults but it will be in the top 3 stadiums in Canada talk for a long time.
Ijust started following this thread a little while ago never even knew Peg had new stadium just seen the design and was really impressed. The roof style is perfect.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 3:13 AM
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Ya that was being discussed on the cfl forum. Seems like creative accounting that winnipeg can have larger profts than saskatchewan.
I'm sure the profits from the merchandise the Riders sell is not all that substantial even though it provides $7 million plus in revenues. Also, the organization has to pay down the debt incurred from their seat expansion and scoreboard upgrade.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 3:17 AM
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Ya that was being discussed on the cfl forum. Seems like creative accounting that winnipeg can have larger profts than saskatchewan.
Once again... The Riders don't exist to make a profit. They give out $1 million + in funding to programs in the province every year, have merch discounts for shareholders/cheaper merch in their stores, so margins are likely smaller than a normal profit-seeking business, are setting aside money for the new stadium/won't actually "own" $12 from the top of every ticket as that gets paid to the city to repay a loan for the new stadium, and the financial statements are audited/prepared by Deloitte, a company that does tens of billions in business around the world every year; they aren't going to risk their reputation by fudging numbers to hide profits of a Canadian sports team.

Also, although the Bombers posted an operating profit of $3.9 mill, their loan payment on the stadium was $4.5 mill (and wasn't counted in that operating profit), so in actuality, the Bombers lost ~$600k last year. They should be able to rake it in above and beyond debt payments with the Grey Cup this year though.

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I'm sure the profits from the merchandise the Riders sell is not all that substantial even though it provides $7 million plus in revenues. Also, the organization has to pay down the debt incurred from their seat expansion and scoreboard upgrade.
Yes, the cost of the expansion was $14 million.
     
     
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GTR Installs Shaw Sports Turf and Hydrochill at Commonwealth Stadium
Todd Britton June 1, 2015



(EDMONTON, Alberta) – GTR Turf and Shaw Sports Turf have completed installation of an all new synthetic turf field at Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton, Alberta.

GTR Turf of Saint-Colomban, Quebec, was selected to complete the field installation at Commonwealth Stadium. Shaw Sports Turf of Dalton, Georgia is the manufacturer of the product.

“This is a great honour for GTR Turf,” said Luc Rochon, President & CEO of GTR Turf. “To have been selected to provide the field for such a prestigious stadium says a great deal about the quality of our work.”

GTR Turf was selected in a competitive bid process and by the recommendation of the architect, JSA Sport Architecture of British Colombia, and Canada Soccer.

Along with Commonwealth Stadium, GTR Turf have also installed surfaces at Rocky Stone Field in Moncton, New Brunswick; Winnipeg Soccer Complex in Winnipeg, Manitoba; and Henry Singer Sports Centre in Edmonton, Alberta as part of the overall project. All surfaces will meet the FIFA Recommended 2 Star requirements for football (soccer) turf.

The group making the decision also spent time at GTR Turf’s installation at Town Centre Park in Coquitlam, British Columbia. This field played a significant role in the decision to use GTR Turf and Shaw Sports Turf at Commonwealth Stadium.

Commonwealth Stadium, the focal point of the project, is the host stadium for the Edmonton Eskimos of the CFL. This summer, the stadium will host 11 matches during the FIFA Women’s World Cup Canada 2015, including Canada’s first two matches, the semi-final match on Canada Day, and the match for third place on July 4.

The Shaw Sports Turf system used for the installation is the PowerBlade Elite 2.5 system. PowerBlade Elite is made with an advanced HP+ monofilament fiber and is the next generation in engineered performance. The system is designed around performance criteria that measures both athlete-surface and ball-surface interactions.

PowerBlade Elite delivers a quality turf system with the best combination of durability, playability and safety. PowerBlade Elite is an engineered system specifically built to meet the stringent laboratory and field tests of FIFA. The FIFA Quality Programme ensures that the Shaw Sports Turf field delivers the maximum level of performance and quality to athletes.

The field at Edmonton will also feature Shaw Sports Turf’s innovative HydroChill product. When athletes sweat, evaporative cooling takes place when evaporation of moisture from the skin’s surface has a cooling effect. HydroChill works on the same principle. As the turf surface is heated by solar radiation, moisture stored in the turf is released, leaving a cooler, more comfortable surface for athletes.

The technology is applied to a field where components react and form a coating on the infill. The field is watered to activate HydroChill and then energy from sunlight drives out water, removing heat from the surface. The cooling effect of HydroChill after watering can last two to three days. Watering alone can result in some short-term cooling, but a flash-effect means temperatures can rise and quickly exceed uncomfortable levels of heat. HydroChill creates a substantial and sustained temperature difference.

HydroChill provides maximum benefit when the sun is nearest the Earth. During the summer months the sun is positioned overhead, causing surfaces to absorb more energy, resulting in hotter temperatures. Temperature differences of 50 degrees have been seen on an outdoor field. Studies have shown that temperature differences of over 30 degrees provide a noticeable increase in the comfort level of athletes.

The research behind HydroChill was extensive and was conducted for three years, both in laboratory tests and in real-world field applications currently in use by athletes. Shaw Sports Turf’s testing facilities include an entire lab dedicated to the study of heat on turf. It houses a custom-built solar simulator with a watering mechanism that simulates rainfall so testing can be conducted on a year-round basis. Tests on a variety of outdoor surfaces were conducted with thermocouples, an Infrared thermometer and by a certified thermographer with a Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) camera.

“This field is used for elite teams and events,” said Chuck McClurg, Vice President of Shaw Sports Turf. “We believe the quality of the field must meet the level of play and that makes our PowerBlade Elite system the perfect match.”

Shaw Sports Turf has also donated a mini-pitch, which will be used outside the stadium for special events. In July, the pitch will be donated to the City of Edmonton.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 4:01 AM
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Yeah for sure. You're restricting potential fans from discovering the game and stadium atmosphere (which contrary to popular belief can be very good) and thus restricting your future fanbase and revenue. Very much a shortsighted strategy.
The strange thing is that the Lions are only using the lower bowl this season. As far as I can tell, there are no tickets being sold in the upper bowl. This might change if there is a playoff game, but this policy will restrict attendance to the 24,000 - 28,000 range. It'll be higher than Whitecaps games, because the Lions will use the entire lower bowl, instead of tarping over the upper rows.

But still, seems like a strange policy, since the average last year was just over 28,000, and the highest was 33,750.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 5:04 AM
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The strange thing is that the Lions are only using the lower bowl this season. As far as I can tell, there are no tickets being sold in the upper bowl. This might change if there is a playoff game, but this policy will restrict attendance to the 24,000 - 28,000 range. It'll be higher than Whitecaps games, because the Lions will use the entire lower bowl, instead of tarping over the upper rows.

But still, seems like a strange policy, since the average last year was just over 28,000, and the highest was 33,750.
From what I've read, the Lions aren't planning on ever restricting capacity, meaning that if the lower bowl gets too full, they will open up the upper bowl. The reason they're not selling any upper bowl tickets to start (or at least what they say their reason is) is that they want to protect the atmosphere and not have people as dispersed throughout.

Although they are trying their hardest to end up with a smaller attendance with the rise in ticket prices...I made good use of the Kids Zone last year, going to 7 home games for $30 each. With the cheapest ticket now being $38, I might have to go to a few less. $8 doesn't sound like a lot, but when you're young and have a very limited amount of disposable income, it adds up. And young people are the most important ones to turn into fans too.
     
     
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From what I've read, the Lions aren't planning on ever restricting capacity, meaning that if the lower bowl gets too full, they will open up the upper bowl. The reason they're not selling any upper bowl tickets to start (or at least what they say their reason is) is that they want to protect the atmosphere and not have people as dispersed throughout.

Although they are trying their hardest to end up with a smaller attendance with the rise in ticket prices...I made good use of the Kids Zone last year, going to 7 home games for $30 each. With the cheapest ticket now being $38, I might have to go to a few less. $8 doesn't sound like a lot, but when you're young and have a very limited amount of disposable income, it adds up. And young people are the most important ones to turn into fans too.
Pretty smart way to go about it. If they could figure out a way to block the view of the upper deck a little better than the whitecaps set up it would actually be a really good atmosphere at 30k Im not sure its that new of a system though

     
     
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Pretty smart way to go about it. If they could figure out a way to block the view of the upper deck a little better than the whitecaps set up it would actually be a really good atmosphere at 30k Im not sure its that new of a system though

Well they used to only open one sideline of upperbowl seating, which is directly above the seats that photo was taken from. The rest were never sold. The difference is, now even the ones above those seats aren't available.
     
     
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Well they used to only open one sideline of upperbowl seating, which is directly above the seats that photo was taken from. The rest were never sold. The difference is, now even the ones above those seats aren't available.
And the problem is that a lot of people would prefer to sit second tier sideline over endzone...

Using Rider games as an example. Sellouts are much more common now than in the past, but when there isn't a sellout, it isn't the second tier on the West side that is unsold... it is endzone seats.
     
     
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