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Old Posted Jun 15, 2015, 4:06 PM
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Here's a rendering of the Squareview Apartments:



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What's up with the portion furthest to the right? It looks like it has balconies, but the structure is a blank brick wall. Actually, zooming in it looks most similar to unfinished plywood. And it seems clear the storefront doesn't extend to this area. Maybe they're putting the elevator core in the front of the building for some reason? Seems odd anyway.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2015, 8:51 PM
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Uber has signed a short term lease in the Crucible Building in the Strip. This warehouse was recently slated to be converted to apartments. I wonder what happened to that?

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/bl...-short-term-lease-for-another-strip.html

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Uber signs short-term lease for another Strip District facility

Uber Technologies Inc. has signed a short-term lease to occupy 30,000 square feet in The Crucible Building, located in the Strip District, a spokeswoman for the company confirmed Monday.
Spokeswoman Trina Smith declined to provide any further details. Originally a Crucible Steel mill building, the property, owned by Schreiber Real Estate, is 116,000 square feet and more than 110 years old.
“I believe they plan on being up and running in there on July 1,” said Brian Schreiber, principal of the company, who offered limited further comment.
Additionally, Shell has closed on the site for the possible ethane cracker. Hopefully this is a good sign, but who knows at this point.

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/bl...ell-closes-on-property-for-proposed.html

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Shell closes on property for proposed ethane cracker

Horsehead Holding Corp. has closed on a deal to sell the site of its former Beaver County zinc smelter to Shell Chemical, Horsehead (Nasdaq: ZINC) announced Monday.
Terms of the sale are confidential. Shell (NYSE: RDS.A) is buying the 1000-acre site, which sits off the Ohio River in Potter Township, for its proposed ethane cracker plant. The multibillion dollar plant would take ethane and convert into polyethylene. Shell is continuing to consider whether to build the plant, but has yet to make a final decision.
"We will make that decision when our full project evaluation is complete," said Shell spokesman Michael Marr in a statement.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2015, 9:10 PM
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Is Shell buying property at the other possible cracker plant sites they've been considering? I think there were a bunch, like 8 other possible sites or something (and there's no guarantee they even decide to build it at all).
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 12:33 PM
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Anyone know the status of the proposed Holiday Inn on Fort Pitt and the one at the Duquesne Incline? Also, any update on the Granite Building conversion? Projects at that building have had a checkered history.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 4:29 PM
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The Mon-Fayette Expressway is not dead yet. It's astounding how unkillable a bad idea can be.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 5:26 PM
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The Mon-Fayette Expressway is not dead yet. It's astounding how unkillable a bad idea can be.
The political guise of progress... as everything else crumbles around us.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 5:53 PM
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There are so many more useful transportation projects to spend $1.7 Billion on than a road to a bunch of dead towns.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 6:10 PM
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There are so many more useful transportation projects to spend $1.7 Billion on than a road to a bunch of dead towns.
Definitely, but this is the American way.

Constantly claim that there isn't enough funding for infrastructure improvements so the lobby for more and more and more transportation funding continues on, then when the money is allocated, spend it on new infrastructure projects that are deemed "priority", leaving repairs and improvements to existing infrastructure to a year-to-year patchwork "plan" that never really addresses needs.

Civil engineering, construction, oil, materials, etc. industries love this system. And the politicians are all too happy to cut ribbons on new projects in the name of progress and prosperity.

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This road is all that the Mon Valley has needed all these years to get the place back to full production!!! Right?
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 6:42 PM
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Oh boy! A new highway! I will bet $6.83 that this road is never built.

The promise of the toll 60 (now I-376 in Beaver and Lawrence counties) was that economic development would come banging at the door and those communities would be revived. Other than a giant Wal Mart and strip center outside of New Castle, there has been no development at the interchanges and the old towns in the valley are still on life support (probably because you have to get off the expressway and drive into the actual towns).

As has probably been discussed here, and upgrade of the existing road system in the Mon Valley would do more to help economic development in the towns where there are still people and a lot of brownfield development potential. Could Lysle Blvd. in McKeesport be upgraded to a true boulevard with added capacity for buses, carry it over the Duquesne-McKeesport Bridge, upgrade 837 all the way past Kennywood and into Homestead with medians and bus/bike lanes?

Hell, for $2 billion, PennDOT could probably upgrade the entire length of 51/Saw Mill Run Blvd. from the expressway terminus in Jefferson all the way into the city.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 7:10 PM
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Oh here we go again. Let's be puritans and forget about how awkward and congested the region is and that having what an essentially be a bypass...

oh nevermind. Sorry to interrupt simcity....
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 8:34 PM
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Oh here we go again. Let's be puritans and forget about how awkward and congested the region is and that having what an essentially be a bypass...

oh nevermind. Sorry to interrupt simcity....
Let's spend 1.7 Billion dollars on a road that will allow people to travel with great ease from Monroeville to.....Uniontown? I'd much rather spend that 1.7 Billion dollars on trains, light rail, busses, and other proven mass transit options.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 8:53 PM
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Not uniontown, the collected sections make up the beltway. Not that it matters here and yes other investments are important.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 8:59 PM
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Not uniontown, the collected sections make up the beltway. Not that it matters here and yes other investments are important.
Oh yeah, I forgot, the already struggling Mon Valley areas need an expressway rammed through the middle of them. How did that work before on the North Shore or the Hill District?
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2015, 10:43 PM
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It seems to me that $1.7 billion could extend the T to the airport, the Strip, and/or Oakland. Wouldn't that be better use of funds?

But what do I know?
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 2:04 AM
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the portion that would have been really impacted by the highway isn't the portion that is noted in the article. So no, it's not another North Side.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 6:05 AM
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Constantly claim that there isn't enough funding for infrastructure improvements so the lobby for more and more and more transportation funding continues on, then when the money is allocated, spend it on new infrastructure projects that are deemed "priority", leaving repairs and improvements to existing infrastructure to a year-to-year patchwork "plan" that never really addresses needs.
I agree, but oddly, I keep hearing on another forum that modernizing the Parkway West isn't needed, even though it's existing infrastructure, and was functionally obsolete the moment it opened 60 years ago.

I'd rather the Parkway West be modernized than the Mon-Fayette Expressway be completed, but different transportation agencies have different ideas, it seems. The Mon-Fayette Expressway is the domain of the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, so PennDOT really can't do anything about it. Unfortunately, what PennDOT is doing on the Parkway West right now solves nothing because it doesn't correct any of the highway's fundamental design flaws, like ramps that are too short, a median that's too narrow, etc. It doesn't have to be a 10- or 12-lane behemoth, but six lanes with adequate shoulders and interchanges that aren't stupid seems like a reasonable goal to me, especially since it's the city's grand entrance.

One thing I'd like to see is the Parkway West eventually become a multimodal transportation corridor between Carnegie and the airport. The West Busway already ends at Carnegie via the Wabash Tunnel, and the T can come from the West End via Crafton, so I think the Busway and the T ought to run together alongside a modernized, six-lane Parkway West all the way to the airport. Maybe have two T lines with one being an express line to downtown, and the other having stops in Robinson, Crafton and the West End, among other places potentially.

As for the Mon-Fayette Expressway, it's worth noting that its proposed alignment north of its current terminus runs mostly through sparsely-populated hollows, so most of the property impact would be to small industrial sites. The only residential area that would be impacted would be Turtle Creek in the vicinity of Thompson Run. Not necessarily trying to justify the project, just saying that it's hyperbole to imply that hundreds of people would be forced out of their homes if the highway ever gets built. Maybe a couple dozen in Turtle Creek, but otherwise the highway would follow hollows and a portion of the Tri-Boro Expressway that's already close to Interstate grade as it is. And for what it's worth, the segment of the Mon-Fayette Expressway into the city of Pittsburgh is officially dead. The Turnpike Commission scrapped it.
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...Unfortunately, what PennDOT is doing on the Parkway West right now solves nothing because it doesn't correct any of the highway's fundamental design flaws, like ramps that are too short, a median that's too narrow, etc...
What exactly is PennDOT even doing down there then? I thought at the very least they were going to increase the size shoulders/median and entrance ramps.

If they aren't doing any of that, then why inconvenience people with a drawn out construction process at all... Just to resurface the stupid thing?
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 2:11 PM
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The MFE just looks redundant on a map. It pretty much mirrors 79 but is merely 15-20 miles east of it, but it's a toll road and is more windy/bendy because it has to work around more developed land and tougher terrain. If you're in Morgantown and want to get to Pittsburgh you'd just take 79.

But the part that is still left to be completed is also part of the Southern Beltway, so I guess it will get done no matter what.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 2:36 PM
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What exactly is PennDOT even doing down there then? I thought at the very least they were going to increase the size shoulders/median and entrance ramps.

If they aren't doing any of that, then why inconvenience people with a drawn out construction process at all... Just to resurface the stupid thing?
They're re-doing bridges that are woefully outdated and structurally obsolete. They are extending some of the on and off-ramps. They are resurfacing, repaving, re road-basing the entire highway. All important things. I agree that it would be obviously very nice if they added another lane in each direction and really work on some of the interchanges, but where is the room to do it? And still, nothing can be done at the Ft. Pitt tunnel entrance without adding a third bore to the tunnel and literally building a new bridge! Though an entrance directly to Carson from the inbound tunnel entrance would be nice!

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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 6:57 PM
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the portion that would have been really impacted by the highway isn't the portion that is noted in the article. So no, it's not another North Side.
Maybe it's not another North Side, but the terrain that this highway would have to cross is insane to say the least. Forget $1.7 Billion dollars, my money is on it landing somewhere between $3-$5 billion dollars when it's done. And in its current state, the highway carries less than 5,000 cars per day. Wouldn't that money be better spent injecting capital into the distressed areas, or even upgrading their infrastructure so it doesn't come toppling down.

But, that would be stupid, right?
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