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[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by counterfactual

What would the Conservative government have to do with this? Aren't we talking about the private component?

Or are we talking about the "Battle of the Atlantic Place" thing, for the HMCS Sackville?

I think Battle of the Atlantic Place (near the foot of Sackville St) is different than Queen's Landing (near the foot of George St).

[beyeas]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

I think Battle of the Atlantic Place (near the foot of Sackville St) is different than Queen's Landing (near the foot of George St).

They are linked but not linked.

The original proposal was all one:
http://armourgroup.com/building_detail.php?building_id=10

However since then they have been de-linked in that I think approval for the public and private parts were split in two. It is clear that the original intention for Queen's Landing, as per the above link, was for this to be all part of one big project, that had both a public side and a private side. However, that has changed.

Originally I would have imagined that they would want to only move forward on the private part once they could get some leveraging from the public side (mitigate some of the private costs through jointly developing both sites simultaneously), but it seems that they finally got tired of waiting for the public part to get funded and have just decided to plow ahead!

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

It's the "etc." that would concern me....

Good point

I would love to see a tunnel to Georges Island though, as unlikely as it might be.

[pblaauw]

[QUOTE=counterfactual;7060238]

Originally Posted by hokus83

Is that true? I've heard rumors, but I don't know if any actual such tunnel has ever been found.

I believe there's a tunnel that goes from the island to The Dennis Building. "A couple million" is unrealistic, I think. The feds have been talking about opening up the island to the public since I was a kid. I'm fairly certain there's a sign on the wharf that says "no trespassing", but people go there all the time with boats.

And then there's the concerts...using city ferries.

[musicman]

The ferry that was used would normally be parked for the weekend and not in use... I also know what it costs the promoters to charter said ferry, metro transit is doing quite well on that rental.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I'd love for them to do something to Georges Island to make it accessible to the general public (and not only to those who have boats). It's a diamond in the rough just sitting there...

[hokus83]

Put a car tunnel under the harbor from south street to the 111 and have a pedestrian and bicycle walkway incorporated with it with access points from them onto the island

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by hokus83

Put a car tunnel under the harbor from south street to the 111 and have a pedestrian and bicycle walkway incorporated with it with access points from them onto the island

Well, that is pretty much the 3rd harbour crossing that the HDBC proposed a few years ago - one of the options was a tunnel. It makes perfect sense, so naturally our Mayor, Council, and a good part of the population shouted it down.

[Jstaleness]

Having never been to another city that tunneled a harbor,what kind of infrastructure would be needed at the South Street entrance? Would it disrupt the above ground much at South/Hollis Westin property? I could care less about the Dartmouth side as its pretty much industrial anyway so there is nothing to lose.

[hokus83]

Originally Posted by Jstaleness

Having never been to another city that tunneled a harbor,what kind of infrastructure would be needed at the South Street entrance? Would it disrupt the above ground much at South/Hollis Westin property? I could care less about the Dartmouth side as its pretty much industrial anyway so there is nothing to lose.

put the entrance by the sea port market

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

I'd love for them to do something to Georges Island to make it accessible to the general public (and not only to those who have boats). It's a diamond in the rough just sitting there...

I completely agree. I think it would become more of an attraction than Citadel Hill; I mean it's like that, but out on the water, with tunnels and an amazing view of Halifax.

We have this incredible asset, that has so much richness and history and could make so much money for the city, and it's sitting there, with weeds growing up, without any City leaders or Federal leadership to open it up for The People.

How about a moveable walking bridge of some sort?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moveable_bridge

The bridge would be down maybe a few times a day, and other times, fully open for ships to get through. No disruption...

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Jstaleness

Having never been to another city that tunneled a harbor,what kind of infrastructure would be needed at the South Street entrance? Would it disrupt the above ground much at South/Hollis Westin property? I could care less about the Dartmouth side as its pretty much industrial anyway so there is nothing to lose.

It really is almost nonexistent in terms of disruption. Far less intrusive than a bridge in fact.

The one I am most familiar with is the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel, near Norfolk Va. It was originally built in the late 1950s as part of the Interstate Highway system and a tunnel portion was deemed necessary due to the strategic importance of keeping a channel open for the large US Navy base there.

Here is the approach:



A bit closer to the entry:


Inside the tunnel:


Coming out:



I have driven it numerous times and even though I am a bit of a claustrophobic I didn't mind it at all. Now, it may be different if traffic is heavy and you are stopped in there, but that never happened to me. I forget the speed limit but it is fairly moderate.

[Jstaleness]

This is Baltimore's. This would be a fine approach from the Dartmouth side but still seems difficult to implement on the current south end of Halifax unless done past pier 21.




photo:www.gazette.com

[Jstaleness]

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[hokus83]

Originally Posted by Jstaleness

This is Baltimore's. This would be a fine approach from the Dartmouth side but still seems difficult to implement on the current south end of Halifax unless done past pier 21.




photo:www.gazette.com

Could fit right at the end of Terminal Rd beside NS power building

[MeEtc]

Looking at an overhead map, I think it would be better and less disruptive to dig under the docks and come back out somewhere near the end of McLean St and head up the rail cut. Make connections to Young Ave and Robie St, and leave a ROW to allow for a potential NW Arm crossing.

[Ziobrop]

Tunnel basically needs a ventilation Building of Some sort.
New Yorks are particaullrly beautiful for such utilitarian structures.

[Ziobrop]

Recent posts have discussed Tunnels, and New York's Penn Station.
I found this:

[Dmajackson]

Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson)

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Dmajackson

https://41.media.tumblr.com/03032b336b93bccfcf747c28f8933275/tumblr_nq1yeyUbWa1tvjdq8o1_1280.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson)

The expansion of the former-Hudson's Bay building looks quite impressive.