Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[officedweller]

A couple months old by a good overhead view of the track at Lake Lafarge - Douglas from Bosa's Evergreen:

https://instagram.com/p/1hEva2iUdT/

[officedweller]

Info on the MKIII cars:

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2015/06/11/translink-vows-less-rattle-on-evergreen

TransLink vows ‘less rattle’ on Evergreen
By Michael Mui, 24 Hours Vancouver
Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:36:27 PDT PM

TransLink has released a few details on its new SkyTrain Mark III vehicles to serve the Evergreen Line.

In a statement, the transit authority said customers can expect the new trains to be equipped with better LED lighting on the interior and larger windows to the front and back.

“These windows will extend down to waist height, improving passenger experience with better visibility and spaciousness during transit,” TransLink said.

“The windows will also be full width at the front of the vehicle, similar to Canada Line cars.”

The new trains will also have “more accessible transit features, including larger open spaces available for bikes, strollers and wheelchairs.”

Vehicles will be equipped with longer-lasting batteries with a lifespan of 25 years, up from the 10-year lifespans of existing batteries within SkyTrain cars.

Lastly, TransLink is promising a quieter ride in the new trains due to a better door seal.

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http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2015/06/11/translink-vows-less-rattle-on-evergreen

[SpongeG]

there was a meeting for the tunnelling planned out in the area, did anyone go? or has it not been held yet? you could sign up on facebook to attend

[DKaz]

Originally Posted by 24 Hours

TransLink could not provide additional detail nor concept images of the fleet, saying it cannot release proprietary information.

Source: Translink Listens

[WarrenC12]

Will the MK3 fleet finally mean the end of 4-car MK1 trains?

Ideally I'd only see MK1s in rush hour, and in 6 car trains. When it gets warm out and I'm on the train for more than 20 mins, I wait for something that has AC.

[red-paladin]

The Mk Is are being refurbished, not replaced.
I never understood the obsession with A/C, the Mk Is are fine except for maybe the 20 hottest days of the year.

[Sheba]

TransLink has released a few details on its new SkyTrain Mark III vehicles to serve the Evergreen Line. I thought the Mark III trains were going to be used on the Expo Line to try to reduce the crush... I've been on there midday (so not rush hour) and it's sometimes standing room only.

I understand the want for A/C - if you're on a Mark I during rush hour on a warm day it heats up really fast. That said I'm more interested in the trains having decent heating for winter, and a dehumidifier for the rainy half of the year.

[Olden Retreiver]

I thought Evergreen was getting refurbished MK 1s, but accept brand me air-conditioned MK IIIs instead. Any news on the progress of refurbishing?

[MIPS]

I'm seeing a lot more repainted trains but so far only one train whose interior was completely refurbished.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by Sheba

TransLink has released a few details on its new SkyTrain Mark III vehicles to serve the Evergreen Line. I thought the Mark III trains were going to be used on the Expo Line to try to reduce the crush... I've been on there midday (so not rush hour) and it's sometimes standing room only.

I understand the want for A/C - if you're on a Mark I during rush hour on a warm day it heats up really fast. That said I'm more interested in the trains having decent heating for winter, and a dehumidifier for the rainy half of the year.

If it were possible I'd never run the Mark I's during May to August. Mainly due to the A/C issue. Problem is that even on the Mark II's, so many stupid people open the window's to make the A/C ineffective. That has to be fixed. Have the Transit police shut the windows when they walk through them.

The late model Mark II's (that came with the dark paintjob) have cameras on them, so I'd think people would be less inclined to break rules that would require opening the window in the first place.

Which makes me wonder if the trains do not have smoke detection equipment.

The mark III's are more than likely going to not be exclusive to the Evergreen line, and are likely to to be cycled in service during rush hour depending on availability. First-In Last-Out of the OMC.

[GeeCee]

Lincoln Station on June 12




There's a lot of paving going on around the east side of Coquitlam Centre's parking lot. It looks like they have removed the previously uncontrolled entrance close to Lougheed Highway in favor of making Pinetree & Amson a four way signalized intersection where it was previously three way.

[MIPS]

A fresh look at Lougheed.


Image courtesy of MIPS

Image courtesy of MIPS

Image courtesy of MIPS

Image courtesy of MIPS

[dpogue]

They've started putting up the wayside signs around Lougheed (with a slightly different font that is going to irk me to no end). One on the outbound curve is already facing the wrong way.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

The Mk Is are being refurbished, not replaced.
I never understood the obsession with A/C, the Mk Is are fine except for maybe the 20 hottest days of the year.

As others have mentioned, it's more about how it feels when it's crowded on a 22C day than the odd 30C day we get. They also suffer from greenhouse effect being an elevated line.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I understand the want for A/C - if you're on a Mark I during rush hour on a warm day it heats up really fast. That said I'm more interested in the trains having decent heating for winter, and a dehumidifier for the rainy half of the year.

Given how foul almost everyone on public transit smells like in the summer, I'd prioritize febreeze dispersal units over winter heat and dehumidification. The worst part of taking public transit, and why I avoid it whenever possible.

[Ridgerunner]

The meeting about the tunnel is taking place in a few days.

That they even have to have this sort of "placate the community" meeting is telling enough.

At the rate they are going ... about 50 feet a month ... it is going to take 3 more years to finish the damned tunnel.

The truth is that the Translink people have no clue as to when it will be completed. Since January, they have been posting haphazard notices on their propaganda web site .. always saying the same thing.

"crews are preparing to get ready to start to initiate the maintenance cycle".

Every time they move 20 feet, another sand lens comes into play and the TBM stops while they drill and grout and dance and sing and squirm and hesitate and misinform.

Someone write that the 9 month delay is no issue. Well .. it is an issue. The opening date has shifted to Fall of 2016 from Spring of 2016. Whatever slop they had on the critical path is already more than well used up.

In football terms (soccer terms), the Evergreen Line is already into "injury time" and we will not know how long that lasts until the whistle blows.

Does anyone on this forum actually have some real information or are we all just gum flapping?

[Ridgerunner]

You know, I know the real problem with the TBM.

It is political.

The TBM is working under some houses and some streets that are being kept open 24-7. The people in those houses, who use those streets, are expecting not to be disturbed in any way by the TBM's progress.

So I used Google earth to count the number of houses that remain along the route from the present halt point of Seaview and Clarke.

I counted 32 houses. That means, as the TBM progresses, only some 32 houses might get some subsidence.

So my solution is to recognize that some people are going to get disturbed.

Pay them off.

Move them all into a first class hotel. Drive the TBM full speed. Grout after the fact, not before, if you find a sand lens.

If you have to rebuild a houses foundation because of subsidence, you do it.

Let us say that is 250k for about half the houses ... 16 houses at 250k is 4 million.

Only 4 million (plus some hotel bills) and the job gets done fast.

Remember when we were kids and you had a band-aid on some cut. When it came time to remove the band-aid, you tried to pull it off one tenth of a millimetre at a time.

The real solution is to have some cold hearted adult come and just pull the band-aid off in one stroke.

Saves hours of time. That is what we should be doing here.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Ridgerunner, I think you're reading into this a lot more than you should.

The problem is that they need to stop and replace their tools. TBMs need maintenance. They can't just go on forever or they would have not a cutter shield left. Abrasion eats tools, especially when you occasionally hit some big boulders.

The subsidence happens when they change the cutter tools because they have to open up the cutter head. That means the ground has somewhere to go, so it flows inside the tunnel. The rest of the time, the working face of the tunnel is confined and pressurized. It can't go anywhere. The screw conveyors in the TBM control the amount of material which can leave the front of the TBM.

If they could just drive along without having to do maintenance, then there wouldn't be an issue. The ground would be confined and there most likely wouldn't be any subsidence. Unfortunately, they've got to stop on occasion.

I'm sure SNC is monitoring a lot of structures for subsidence. Liability is a big thing in tunnelling. There's probably a few sets of surveys going on.

[finalcoolman]

I am the only one with real information, I posted back on May 7th that actual tunnel boring will resume around Canada Day.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Olden Retreiver

I thought Evergreen was getting refurbished MK 1s, but accept brand me air-conditioned MK IIIs instead. Any news on the progress of refurbishing?

I would be surprised if they allocated specific trains to Evergreen. On all the other expansions to skytrain (excluding Canada Line) they add extra capacity to the entire network and allocate cars to specific routes as needed with the ability to move them around to meet demand. In the past they have said they try to run new train full out during the warranty period, using the older cars during peek period to get the most out of the warranty coverage.

Canada line has different technology so it is a different beast.