DENVER | Main Development Thread #6

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by wong21fr

A good bit of drama and legality ensued in part to the novel design.

What else is new, this is Denver. We sue over anything that isn't a bike lane.

[Stonemans_rowJ]

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/26871/its-about-to-get-easier-to-build-mid-rises-in-dc/

This is a good Washington DC blog, and I found this post interesting with regard to the on-going "stick-built" debate in Denver.

There's usually good stuff in the comments too.

I also like the BeyondDC blog

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by wong21fr

Well, the Ajax Lofts in Prospect was built with a heavy timber structural system. A good bit of drama and legality ensued in part to the novel design.

No no no... That's boring. I want a log cabin facade and all. What I don't want is the pretty stuff like the resorts in Vail. Just straight up, high density, half block taking, log cabin box. Like this:

[The Dirt]

Would you settle for this?

http://www.interiordesign2014.com

[mishko27]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

Would you settle for this?

http://www.interiordesign2014.com

This is hilarious - it comes from Košice, Slovakia's second biggest city (I was born there, lived there through high school) and it was an art installation in 2013 when Košice was European Capital of Culture... Cool to see my home here, haha

Ad. One Belleview Station - that project was originally supposed to be placed north of the Belleview RTD Station, just across Union Ave. The parking lot would have been facing i25 then, which wouldn't be a problem. They moved the project to where it is now and didn't change a thing, which I find problematic, because the parking lot become one of the first things you see at this TOD...

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

Would you settle for this?

I can settle for that.. I'll be putting mine on top of the 4S since the top will soon be blocked anyway..

[awholeparade]

I thought that was The Denver House at first. Haha.

[DenverPoke]

Originally Posted by mishko27

This is hilarious - it comes from Košice, Slovakia's second biggest city (I was born there, lived there through high school) and it was an art installation in 2013 when Košice was European Capital of Culture... Cool to see my home here, haha

Ad. One Belleview Station - that project was originally supposed to be placed north of the Belleview RTD Station, just across Union Ave. The parking lot would have been facing i25 then, which wouldn't be a problem. They moved the project to where it is now and didn't change a thing, which I find problematic, because the parking lot become one of the first things you see at this TOD...

That's awesome!

[corey]

Originally Posted by seventwenty

Um what?

The EIFS top several storeys they slapped on top of the Renaissance Hotel at 17th and Champa is horrible. Even though the design of the addition is as boring as can be, it would have been so much better if they clad the addition in a stone veneer that went with the marble of the building. A darker gray slate or something would have contrasted nicely with the marble and looked contemporary and still high quality. At least the Allen Tupper True murals were restored. I hear the lobby and the rest of the interior turned out nice though.

[Chucolo]

If they can do it in Stockholm, why not in Denver?

http://www.cfmoller.com/r/Wooden-Skyscraper-i13265.html

[RaspberryD]

Hello everyone! I snoop around here regularly, but this is my first time chiming in. So, greetings and salutations!

I just found (Denver Post, super subtle I know) this interesting tidbit in regards to Elitches

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_28260454/local-investment-team-led-by-kroenke-buys-elitch

Cheers!

-RJ

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by RaspberryD

Hello everyone! I snoop around here regularly, but this is my first time chiming in. So, greetings and salutations!

I just found (Denver Post, super subtle I know) this interesting tidbit in regards to Elitches

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_28260454/local-investment-team-led-by-kroenke-buys-elitch

Cheers!

-RJ

...

www.memyshelfandi.com and www.theatlantic.com

Great Find. Sounds like there is no interest in development/moving Elitch's at this time - or in the near future. Decade or two, who knows?

Apparently, CNL Lifestyle, a Florida trust, is in the process of liquidation - by choice. What was a bit unique was for them to sell just one property versus a whole slew or large package. Glad, as they point out, it's back in local hands.

[wong21fr]

Originally Posted by RaspberryD

Hello everyone! I snoop around here regularly, but this is my first time chiming in. So, greetings and salutations!

I just found (Denver Post, super subtle I know) this interesting tidbit in regards to Elitches

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_28260454/local-investment-team-led-by-kroenke-buys-elitch

Cheers!

-RJ

Welp, the confirms the rumors of a sale and what the immediate plans are for the park. Plus, Kroenke now owns, or mostly owns, the land-bank for a massive amount of future development downtown. This is the next Riverfront Park/Union Station neighborhoods.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by wong21fr

Welp, the confirms the rumors of a sale and what the immediate plans are for the park. Plus, Kroenke now owns, or mostly owns, the land-bank for a massive amount of future development downtown. This is the next Riverfront Park/Union Station neighborhoods.

Monica Mendoza, Denver Business Journal also has posted the news.

KSE Elitch Gardens/Revesco/Second City, LLLP is planning multimillion dollar in upgrades, beginning with the recently announced $2.5 million new water attraction,"SlideZilla," a six-story water slide which is expected to open later this month

I'll pull a Brainpathology and suggest that I hope Elitch's is still in place 50 years from now. Any why not? Some things are worth keeping "as is" for any number of reasons. Some things throw off nice cash flow like a good slot machine. Some things have priceless historical value. Elitch's has a 125 year history and the Nuggets have a 48 year history.

I'd contend that what makes any given city special is its ability to offer a nice variety of attractions that appeal to a wide variety of people. Why else would I support a cool billion dollars to keep a bunch of smelly, gassy farm animals coming back year after year?

Who knows? Maybe the decision will ultimately lie with Josh Kroenke and his sister Whitney?

[DenvertoLA]

I don't buy it for one second. Two residential and commercial investors don't just 'happen' to buy prime land in the city. They may claim they bought it because they 'love' the park but that doesn't make economic sense.

Theme parks are expensive to run and maintain. Six Flags went bankrupt and sold Elitch's because it was more valuable to sell than to keep as revenue source. I give it 5 years.

What Mayor Hancock should do is develop some of that land by DIA for a world class roller coaster park, Elitch's has no room for any of those.

[J21bird]

Late this afternoon Hines, the developer of 1144 Fifteenth Street has given Denver Urban Review the green light to share the updated renderings of this skyscraper. All Images are courtesy Hines. Site prep work is already underway at the site as construction will begin in earnest in the coming days. I have posted 5 images to DUR, all of which are courtesy Hines.

http://denverurbanreview.com/

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by J21bird

Late this afternoon Hines, the developer of 1144 Fifteenth Street has given Denver Urban Review the green light to share the updated renderings of this skyscraper. All Images are courtesy Hines. Site prep work is already underway at the site as construction will begin in earnest in the coming days. I have posted 5 images to DUR, all of which are courtesy Hines.

http://denverurbanreview.com/

Ending a 30 year drought of "major" skyscraper office buildings being built in Denver. Really monumental.

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by DenvertoLA

I don't buy it for one second. Two residential and commercial investors don't just 'happen' to buy prime land in the city. They may claim they bought it because they 'love' the park but that doesn't make economic sense.

Theme parks are expensive to run and maintain. Six Flags went bankrupt and sold Elitch's because it was more valuable to sell than to keep as revenue source. I give it 5 years.

What Mayor Hancock should do is develop some of that land by DIA for a world class roller coaster park, Elitch's has no room for any of those.

I agree. The "investment" in $2.5 million "slide zilla" means nothing. Elitches is gone from its present location in five years.

[comoneymaker]

Denver Urban Review got some new renderings of 1144 fifteenth st

http://denverurbanreview.com/2015/06/new-renderings-of-1144-fifteenth-st/

[DenverInfill]

Major update at DenverInfill:

http://denverinfill.com/blog/2015/06/central-downtown-1144-fifteenth-update-2.html