PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 383

acenturi · #**7641** Posted **Jun 2, 2015, 11:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wayne Junction

Do we have enough daily traffic to Doha to fill a Super-Guppy? I'm thrilled for the notice but will QATAR be able to make this profitable in the long run? Airline spokespersons please edify me.

No one has enough traffic to Doha, except NYC and Houston. DFW has less traffic than Philly. PHL's advantage is the connectivity agreements with AA/US Airways and the fact that they are in the same airline Alliance (One World). Only a very small number (<20%) of U.S. originating passengers actually have DOHA as their final destination - they are connecting to Asia, Africa and to a lesser extent, Australia.

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Originally Posted by 1487

They are switching to a plane that has fewer business class seats and more economy seats to align with demand thus far in Philly. I was told they have had issues filling the pricey business class seats.

So I guess that's the same case for BOS, NYC, ATL and LAX which are all starting A350 service in 2016. It has little to do with demand - versus the 777-200. I'd like to know your source for the claim that Philly has more issues filling Business Class seats than anywhere else, except, NYC and IAH. My guess is that it's another A-Net unfounded claim from an armchair CEO.

acenturi · #**7642** Posted **Jun 2, 2015, 11:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Austinlee

It roughly translates to this.

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1 Strike against Austinlee - after many home runs!

1487 · #**7643** Posted **Jun 3, 2015, 12:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by acenturi

No one has enough traffic to Doha, except NYC and Houston. DFW has less traffic than Philly. PHL's advantage is the connectivity agreements with AA/US Airways and the fact that they are in the same airline Alliance (One World). Only a very small number (<20%) of U.S. originating passengers actually have DOHA as their final destination - they are connecting to Asia, Africa and to a lesser extent, Australia.

So I guess that's the same case for BOS, NYC, ATL and LAX which are all starting A350 service in 2016. It has little to do with demand - versus the 777-200. I'd like to know your source for the claim that Philly has more issues filling Business Class seats than anywhere else, except, NYC and IAH. My guess is that it's another A-Net unfounded claim from an armchair CEO.

The info is directly from airline industry forums where people discuss the business all day. What is the source of your certainty?

Philly Fan · #**7644** Posted **Jun 3, 2015, 4:35 PM**

On Ridge Avenue progress would go by the initials PHA

Philly Fan · #**7645** Posted **Jun 3, 2015, 4:38 PM**

More on the planned University City Science Center expansion:

University City Science Center seeks to double its space

McBane · #**7646** Posted **Jun 3, 2015, 4:52 PM**

Center City zoning changes: http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/06/02/committee-approves-zoning-changes-in-center-city

Still feels pretty restrictive. For example, a project that fronts three or more streets (which translates into a large parcel) has a height limit now of 55 feet (up from 38 feet). An improvement yes, but will it drastically reduce the number of variances requested??? It's certainly a step in the right direction.

sayitaintso · #**7647** Posted **Jun 3, 2015, 10:50 PM**

http://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/June-2015/Yuppie-Dan-Rottenberg/

Somewhat cynical interview in which Dan comes off as a true high and mighty NYer ...only he is a Philadelphian...

PHI215skyline · #**7648** Posted **Jun 3, 2015, 11:27 PM**

A while back I heard people speculating on CITC being expanded (floors added).

Has anyone heard anything else on this or was this based purely on speculation?

Is this really happening?

1487 · #**7649** Posted **Jun 4, 2015, 12:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHI215skyline

A while back I heard people speculating on CITC being expanded (floors added).

Has anyone heard anything else on this or was this based purely on speculation?

Is this really happening?

It has been and continues to be speculation.

PhiLaw · #**7650** Posted **Jun 4, 2015, 5:41 PM**

1487 · #**7651** Posted **Jun 4, 2015, 7:47 PM**

Pretty nice. I was in 1818 Market 2 weeks ago on 35th floor and views were great, especially of FMC and 1919.

PhiLaw · #**7652** Posted **Jun 4, 2015, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1487

Pretty nice. I was in 1818 Market 2 weeks ago on 35th floor and views were great, especially of FMC and 1919.

I'm in Commerce Sq - eastern tower. Eastern and Northern facing windows in my office. Perfect construction view, plus I can keep an eye on my place!

Londonee · #**7653** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 1:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by sayitaintso

http://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/June-2015/Yuppie-Dan-Rottenberg/

Somewhat cynical interview in which Dan comes off as a true high and mighty NYer ...only he is a Philadelphian...

Wow...very odd take and thanks for posting. I almost felt bad for the interviewer at the end as Rottenberg continued to passive aggressively attack Chicago.

summersm343 · #**7654** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 3:09 AM**

Philadelphia unemployment rate drops to 6.5 percent

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2015/06/04/philadelphia-unemployment-rate-drops.html

Londonee · #**7655** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

More on the planned University City Science Center expansion:

University City Science Center seeks to double its space

SO BUILD TALLER! They keep building these stubby, bland boxes along Market Street - fill them up immediately - lament their lack of space! - and then rinse and repeat. With all the demand over the years for office space in this incubator the only thing that's stopped us from having an iconic supertall over here is the developer's ambition.

Insoluble · #**7656** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 2:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Philadelphia unemployment rate drops to 6.5 percent

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2015/06/04/philadelphia-unemployment-rate-drops.html

I know this is only the monthly rate and not the year average, but considering the fact that it was double this amount not to long ago I would say this is absolutely outstanding news.

br323206 · #**7657** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 2:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Londonee

SO BUILD TALLER! They keep building these stubby, bland boxes along Market Street - fill them up immediately - lament their lack of space! - and then rinse and repeat. With all the demand over the years for office space in this incubator the only thing that's stopped us from having an iconic supertall over here is the developer's ambition.

There is something to be said for the mid-rise development that they are pursuing. In just a few short years, University City has gone from universities surrounded by vast seas of parking lots to a much more urban, dynamic feeling place. If they put all of their office space in a single supertall we wouldn't have the great neighborhood that has developed, and we'd still have ugly parking lots.

McBane · #**7658** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 2:59 PM**

If having a tall iconic tower meant more vacant lots, then I'd rather have the midrises. However, there's no rule that midrises hav to be "stubby bland boxes." What they lack in height could and should definitely be made up for in architectural flare. Some of the very early Science Center buildings are hideous while the newer ones are a step up. But they're still not much more than stubby bland boxes.

Insoluble · #**7659** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by McBane

If having a tall iconic tower meant more vacant lots, then I'd rather have the midrises. However, there's no rule that midrises hav to be "stubby bland boxes." What they lack in height could and should definitely be made up for in architectural flare. Some of the very early Science Center buildings are hideous while the newer ones are a step up. But they're still not much more than stubby bland boxes.

This is so true. The newer buildings in the science center are a bit better, but on the whole the stretch just looks underwhelming. Some of the earlier mid rises also have pretty weak urban design, pushed back from the street with little fronting retail. I think it's getting a lot better now though, and am excited to see what this area has in store for the next few years.

Londonee · #**7660** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 9:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

There is something to be said for the mid-rise development that they are pursuing. In just a few short years, University City has gone from universities surrounded by vast seas of parking lots to a much more urban, dynamic feeling place. If they put all of their office space in a single supertall we wouldn't have the great neighborhood that has developed, and we'd still have ugly parking lots.

Society Hill, great neighborhood. Fitler Square, great neighborhood. The dull collection of mid-rises along west market from 35th-40th? Not a great neighborhood. It's not really any neighborhood, it looks like Downtown, USA. And these buildings aren't dainty examples of conservative infill. 3601 Market, for example, is a 400k square foot building.