CF Pacific Centre Developments

[officedweller]

I think it's a transformer - and I thin it has a wrap on it (maybe with graffiti too).

[Klazu]

My last update ever from this view. 2.5 years between these photos (October 2012 vs. May 2015) and you be the judge for this transformation. I think there is no doubt that Nordstrom is overall better, but I think it does fail to deliver in some of the details.

[connect2source]

Love the comparison Klaus thanks!!

There's elements about the original I loved before Sears let it decay and prior to the 6th and 7th floor additions being added and the 2000 eaton's changes.

I loved :

-the monolithic white cube on its side with the vertical black box of the TD tower, a beautiful juxtaposition

-the overall simplicity and timelessness of the building, the new one is 'of the moment' if not already dated

I would have loved to see some elements of the original remaining such as the white terrazzo, the bevelled corners and the dark glass. The building in it's original form wasn't hated, the horrible additions and poor maintenance resulted in a dirty mess and bore little resemblance to the original

Vancouver Sun Photo :

[SFUVancouver]

Klazu, that's incredible. You should reach out to Cadillac Fairview, maybe sell them the set.

[nickbeaulieu]

Ya, great comparison. They're almost perfectly aligned with each other.

[connect2source]

The mechanical and elevator penthouses are horribly executed on the re-clad.

[WarrenC12]

Great comparison Klazu.

Amazing how nothing else has changed in that view, given all of the other development that has happened over the same time frame.

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Great comparison Klazu.

Amazing how nothing else has changed in that view, given all of the other development that has happened over the same time frame.

It's kinda of a 'where's waldo' but I noticed that in the second and newer photo the Old Navy building at Robson and Granville is completed, the Telus Garden's 'box' over Seymour St is visible and building in the bottom right has a new roof.

[trofirhen]

One thing I really don't like is that protruding pale-blue-spandrel box at Howe & Robson that says CF Cadillac Fairview. Didn't anybody have a classier idea?

[officedweller]

Thanks!

Great comparison.

Agreed on the ugly mechanical penthouses, post-reno.

WRT changes .... the newer pic has a few more closed window blinds no the Hotel Georgia tower, and Robson Court (the office building lower right)has been re-roofed (the safety bar is gone).

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

One thing I really don't like is that protruding pale-blue-spandrel box at Howe & Robson that says CF Cadillac Fairview. Didn't anybody have a classier idea?

That's not permanent, just some construction branding.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

That's not permanent, just some construction branding.

What a relief. Thanks.

[vanman]

Even without the sign that box is terrible. Vancouver grey spandrel is the most creative cladding they could come up with for what looks to be a defining feature of the building.

[officedweller]

From the outside, the rotunda entrance of the Nordstrom looks like it'll be claustrophobic (or "intimate?)

Compared to before the reno, the ceiling height is much lower, and the wheelchair ramp is closed in using pony walls, rather than glass.

It might appear better when you're inside the space, but it looks odd from the outside.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by officedweller

From the outside, the rotunda entrance of the Nordstrom looks like it'll be claustrophobic (or "intimate?)

Compared to before the reno, the ceiling height is much lower, and the wheelchair ramp is closed in using pony walls, rather than glass.

It might appear better when you're inside the space, but it looks odd from the outside.

If you're talking about the North entrance off the Canada line it's going to be a Nordstrom Cafe with a double height ceiling, so not a true entrance really.

I was in there the other day and the space seemed like it will be pretty cool once complete.

[officedweller]

Thanks, I guess that would explain it.

[Delirium]

given the surface area of the roof, i'm surprised they didn't make it 'green'. that new building across the street (where Old Navy is) has a green roof and it's a fraction of the size.

either way, a thousand times better than what was there but I really wish cheng would have used a different coloured spandrel for the corners.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by Delirium

given the surface area of the roof, i'm surprised they didn't make it 'green'. that new building across the street (where Old Navy is) has a green roof and it's a fraction of the size.

Yeah, definitely a lost opportunity to have a cool publicly accessible greenspace in a cool urban environment. A small summer time cafe up there would be superb. Same thing applies to the new Convention Center's roof.

I was also under impression that CoV's vision of Vancouver becoming the greenest city on Earth, all new buildings would have greenroofs.

[dreambrother808]

The corner glass above the PC entrance has been removed and is being replaced, with more stone perhaps?

[red-paladin]

The city asked if they could make it into a green roof, and the roof couldn't support the weight of it. It would have required a lot of money to redo it so it wasn't possible. As can be seen in the renovation photos, the roof is pretty thin.