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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 4:16 PM
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Edmonton does, roughly the price of 3 ticket rides or 2.5 cash, but it's good for an adult plus kids.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 4:26 PM
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Montreal actually has an "evening" pass which I conveniently used last week. It's $5 and covers use between I believe 6pm and 6am with at least 1 trip needing to be before midnight. I've never seen that offered before.
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 4:41 PM
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But also in Toronto/Ontario transportation news this is what the new GO train cab cars will look like...




http://www.blogto.com/city/2015/05/this_is_what_the_new_go_cab_cars_look_like/
Hopefully, these are not in service too long. Need to get those electric trains here as fast as possible.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 4:53 PM
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The Confederation Line in Ottawa will have full wireless. Cell phone & data reception will be available in both the underground stations and on the trains in the tunnel itself.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/con...terrupted-underground-wireless-1.3071469
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 5:26 PM
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So, do most cities have a day pass like Toronto and Montreal do? I've never actually checked Ottawa, but I think Hamilton has one.
Yep, we do.

Montreal is definitely the best system I've used when it comes to passes though. They have 2-ride, evening, day, 3-day, weekly and monthly passses. When I went over the winter a few years ago, I made use of the evening pass which was like 5 bucks and worked from 7 or 8pm at night until 5am. Basically after 2 rides it paid itself off. Was really convenient for new years eve where I could just hop on and off the metro all night.
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 5:30 PM
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Vancouver has a day pass for $9.75, which is strange because it's cheaper to buy one if you're doing a 3 zone round trip, as opposed to buying two 3 zone tickets, which are $5.50 each.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 6:18 PM
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Vancouver has a day pass for $9.75, which is strange because it's cheaper to buy one if you're doing a 3 zone round trip, as opposed to buying two 3 zone tickets, which are $5.50 each.
Does that handle all the way out to the ferry terminal?
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:01 PM
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Ottawa has a day pass. Hardly anyone uses it, it is $8.10.


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The Confederation Line in Ottawa will have full wireless. Cell phone & data reception will be available in both the underground stations and on the trains in the tunnel itself.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/con...terrupted-underground-wireless-1.3071469
As I previously said, this is a waste unless Ottawa gets a much larger underground transit system. Comparing Ottawa to Toronto or Montreal is silly because Ottawa has 2.5km underground, the others have their entire train system underground. Im sure the longest one would be without reception is 15mins if they get off at the mid-way station and were to walk to the surface.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:08 PM
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Phase 2 extensions to the west will have lots of tunnel segments, though. Someone coming in from Bayshore to downtown will spend half the ride below the surface.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:10 PM
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Hopefully, these are not in service too long. Need to get those electric trains here as fast as possible.
It's the rear cab, not the locomotive. So it'll replace these:


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Whereas these are what actually does the driving, and IIRC they're made to be convertible to electric from diesel:


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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:12 PM
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Does that handle all the way out to the ferry terminal?
Yes, we only have 3 zones total, radiating from Vancouver city proper. Vancouver is zone 1, the first ring of suburbs are zone 2 and the second ring of suburbs are zone 3. The Horseshoe Bay terminal is in zone 2, and Tsawwassen is in zone 3. So if you're only planning on being in Vancouver for the day, it's cheaper to get a day pass than pay a 3 zone ticket twice.


http://www.translink.ca/en/Fares-and-Passes/Fare-Zone-Map.aspx
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:19 PM
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Yes, we only have 3 zones total, radiating from Vancouver city proper. Vancouver is zone 1, the first ring of suburbs are zone 2 and the second ring of suburbs are zone 3. The Horseshoe Bay terminal is in zone 2, and Tsawwassen is in zone 3. So if you're only planning on being in Vancouver for the day, it's cheaper to get a day pass than pay a 3 zone ticket twice.


http://www.translink.ca/en/Fares-and-Passes/Fare-Zone-Map.aspx
Well my trip to Victoria was going to be an overnight one, so I can't really manage that.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:31 PM
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It's the rear cab, not the locomotive. So it'll replace these:


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Whereas these are what actually does the driving, and IIRC they're made to be convertible to electric from diesel:


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But of course the real benefit from electrification comes from EMUs as even though electric locomotives are more powerful and more energy efficient than the diesel-electric models, you still do not get the major time saving since locomotives cannot accelerate the train very fast regardless of their power due to wheel slippage. It is too small a number of powered axles. Also there is less opportunity for regenerative braking with fewer powered axles, although with 25 KV AC which is likely what we'd be getting, that doesn't work as well anyway.
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 9:49 PM
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But also in Toronto/Ontario transportation news this is what the new GO train cab cars will look like...




http://www.blogto.com/city/2015/05/this_is_what_the_new_go_cab_cars_look_like/
That's not the sleekest thing on rails, but it's a massive improvement over what we have currently, and it's a lot better looking than the cab cars they have in the US.

Here's LA's:



My hope is that with full grade separation on the electric lines, they can apply for new rolling stock - such as the EMUs that Nouvellecosse mentions - that don't adhere to FRA/Transport Canada crash guidelines. That usually uglifies our trainsets quite a bit.
     
     
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About friggin time

Province set to unveil LRT game-changer for Hamilton
Funding commitment is imminent, sources say, as minister Del Duca prepares to visit city

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5616879-province-set-to-unveil-lrt-game-changer-for-hamilton/

The province is close to announcing a game-changing commitment to light rail transit in Hamilton, The Spectator has learned.

Sources at both levels of government say a transit funding commitment is imminent — perhaps as early as next week — but hinges on overcoming serious logistical hurdles.

A spokesperson for Transportation Minister Steven Del Duca wouldn't comment on the specific timing or substance of the anticipated announcement, but promised the minister "will be in the city in the coming weeks to discuss what Ontario's … transit and transportation infrastructure plan means for the residents of Hamilton."

The province wants to green-light part or all of the city's requested $811-million LRT line — but potentially deal-breaking details still need to be nailed down, said sources who didn't want to be identified due to the sensitivity of the discussions.

A transit garage and GO expansion have also been discussed as additional or alternative announcements. If all goes well, a visit is expected any time between next week and early June.

Premier Kathleen Wynne raised eyebrows when she spoke in the legislature about the importance of working with Hamilton to "build that LRT."

She later corrected the record to say she meant "rapid transit."

The city asked for both $811 million for LRT and $302 million for express buses and a maintenance facility in advance of the provincial budget.

Sources say a critical question is whether there's enough cash to build LRT all the way from McMaster University to Eastgate Square — especially given the province is insisting on a spur-line connecting to at least one GO station.

It's not clear how much money the province has to spare for Hamilton after recently committing more than $15 billion to GO electrification and LRT in Mississauga.

But the $811-million LRT estimate is based on 2011 dollars and city staff have warned each year of delay could add two per cent to the total capital cost. The provincial budget suggests Hamilton's transit cash won't be doled out before 2018 and the city still needs years of design work on LRT.

Early documents for the city's LRT project estimated a build from McMaster to Ottawa Street, by comparison, would cost closer to $550 million.

Another issue is whether the HSR or Metrolinx should run the LRT line along the Main-King-Queenston corridor, by far the biggest revenue producer among city transit routes.

The city's bus request, meanwhile, may not easily fit under the mandate of the province's 10-year, $16-billion rapid transit funding plan, but sources said a transit maintenance facility hasn't been ruled out.

It's also possible a timing or funding announcement on extending GO train service to the east city will be included in the minister's visit.

Metrolinx has previously confirmed a ballpark cost of about $150 million to extend GO Train service and build a new station near Centennial Parkway.
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2015, 2:21 PM
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Holy crap!!! I didn't see Hamilton getting LRT!

No way!!!
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2015, 2:31 PM
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Holy crap!!! I didn't see Hamilton getting LRT!

No way!!!
Sadly it's not clear this is progress either. Big LRT announcements come out of Queen's Park just often enough to give Hamilton hope (every 4-6 months I think). They then back track at the slightest sign of cooperation from Hamilton.
     
     
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I really get pissed when I hear about full funding for LRT for Hamilton. Why the hell should Ham get it 100% paid for and Kit/Ott have to come up with mega-bucks?
     
     
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I really get pissed when I hear about full funding for LRT for Hamilton. Why the hell should Ham get it 100% paid for and Kit/Ott have to come up with mega-bucks?
The GTA gets full funding. Hamilton is fighting to get somewhere beyond the GTA receive the same treatment. That fight is one Ottawa and KWC should be supporting to benefit themselves in future.
     
     
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Old Posted May 15, 2015, 2:14 PM
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I really get pissed when I hear about full funding for LRT for Hamilton. Why the hell should Ham get it 100% paid for and Kit/Ott have to come up with mega-bucks?
KW is 30/30/30 as far as funding goes from federal/provincial/municipal. So it's not like they have to pay for it all themselves.

Better than Toronto gets for the DRL anyway.
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