YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[urbancanadian]

Yeah Calgary does plan to eventually connect the airport to their LRT system, but it is a medium-term priority. I don't know if they have decided to have it as a spur off the NE line or the future North Central line. Or if they just end up making it a short line connecting NC-NE with 2 or 3 stops in between. Here's a map of the timelines:


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=202907

As for Edmonton... Well, their airport is just soo far away from the city that I don't see it happening any time soon.

Montreal will probably be the next city with aiport rail. Caisse de Depot (Quebec's pension fund) is apparently funding the Train de l'Ouest LRT line to YUL. I think there is even space for a station preserved under the airport's new Marriott hotel.

[SFUVancouver]

Vancouver International Airport to host luxury outlet mall

YVR mall unique in North America: ‘It will feel like you’re walking down cobbled streets, opening up in a piazza with cafes and outdoor seating’

By Evan Duggan, Special to The Sun April 28, 2015 3:15 PM



The developers of a luxury outlet mall at Vancouver International Airport say their first shopping centre outside of Europe is set to open later this spring on schedule as management continues to finalize a list of what they’re describing as designer tenants.

The McArthurGlen Designer Outlet Vancouver Airport, a co-development with the Vancouver Airport Authority, is unique in North America’s mall landscape, said the centre’s general manager Robert Thurlow in an interview last week.

The architectural detail and environment is unlike other malls, he said. “It will feel like you’re walking down cobbled streets, opening up in a piazza with cafes and outdoor seating. It will feel very different to what I would call a traditional square box mall.”

The dining options would also not be the usual fare. “We don’t do the kind of regular food and beverage players,” he said. “We really try to work with local people … who are maybe opening up their second restaurant … rather than going with the national chains that people can get at any mall.”

He said the outlet mall is set to tap into a surging number of travellers coming through the airport.

Citing legal agreements, the developers have declined to reveal their list of tenants, but Thurlow said the mix of “luxury, premium lifestyle brands and entertainment” would draw in both “families and fashionistas.”

He said the YVR project is the firm’s first outside of Europe, where they lead the luxury outlet market. “This seemed like an absolutely natural fit, certainly partnering with YVR, but also in the location of Vancouver.”

Thurlow said the first phase is set to open later this spring with 240,000 square feet of shopping and services. The second phase of another 140,000 sq. ft would follow 18 to 24 months after the initial opening, for a total of 80 stores, he said.

The mall, located near the Templeton station, just two Canada Line stops from the YVR passenger terminal, would target travellers coming to and from the airport, Thurlow said. He referenced comments made last week at the Vancouver Board of Trade’s 2015 Aviation Forum by YVR president and CEO Craig Richmond, who said YVR has set a goal to handle an additional five million passengers by 2020.

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http://www.vancouversun.com/business/com...host/11011532/story.html?__lsa=7259-d640

The headline is a bit redundant, since this has been announced some time ago, but it's good to have some more details and an update on its progress towards opening later this spring/early summer.

[Johnny Aussie]

So it looks like Sichuan will continue flying year-round.

The schedules did not show any flights past 30 October.... up until today that is... three per week throughout the winter.

Flights will arrive and depart YVR a bit earlier next winter though.

Flight 3U 8579 will arrive at 0825 and 3U 8580 will depart at 1025 on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays.

Happy to see they are sticking around.

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It looks like Winter 2015/2016 is already shaping up to be another good one for capacity increases on the international side of things!

So far YVR is going to see the following:

AF - new 3 per week to CDG on 772s
KE - daily to ICN on 772s (up from 5pw last winter)
NZ - daily to AKL on 772s for the peak winter (up from 6pw last winter)
BR - 5pw to TPE on 744s (up from 4pw last winter)
MU - 10pw to PVG on 332s (up from 7pw last winter)
PR - new 4pw to JFK on 343s
PR - 11pw to MNL on 77Ws and 343s (up from 7pw last winter)
QF - 3pw to SYD on 744s (flight period extended much longer than last winter)
AC - every Asian route that was a 763 in the past (NRT, PEK, PVG, ICN) will be 788 for the entire winter scheds next year.

No reductions or capacity cuts on any international route that I can see at this time... it's all +++ right now.... yes, I know it's very early!

And this is just "overseas" international... did not look at sun destination flying yet.

[LeftCoaster]

That's massive, hopefully there are some bodies to fill all those seats!

Thanks for the info Johnny, always appreciate the effort and input.

[trofirhen]

I wonder if we'll get a route into Wuhan (already to SFO on China Southern) and maybe Chong'quing,
which already has flights to Sydney, Qatar, Rome, and Helsinki.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

That's massive, hopefully there are some bodies to fill all those seats!

Thanks for the info Johnny, always appreciate the effort and input.

Easy breezy... and thanks!

Oh, and don't forget on Friday rouge kicks off its seasonal flights to KIX...

... but the big event of the upcoming summer scheds has to be Air Canada Express new 2 daily flights to Comox! Also kicking off on Friday!

Get those water cannons ready!

[Johnny Aussie]

What's going on in little old YVR?!

I just got called out by my kids for uttering "holy poop" when I saw these numbers!

http://yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/2_March_Traffic_Update.sflb.ashx

Overall up 8.1% (YTD up 6.0%)
Domestic up 4.1% (YTD 2.7%)
Transborder up 15.3% (YTD up 14.0%)
Asia Pacific up 10.5% (YTD up 3.3%)
Europe up 7.8% (YTD up 10.5%)
Misc Int'l up 4.0% (YTD up 3.9%)

Overall traffic is up ~ 124,000 from March 2014.
Of that over 60,000 is due to the increase in transborder, 23,000 in Asia Pacific traffic and almost 22,000 from the domestic uptick.

The int'l / domestic split is now over 50% international by quite a bit too.

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

What's going on in little old YVR?!

I just got called out by my kids for uttering "holy poop" when I saw these numbers!

http://yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/2_March_Traffic_Update.sflb.ashx

Overall up 8.1% (YTD up 6.0%)
Domestic up 4.1% (YTD 2.7%)
Transborder up 15.3% (YTD up 14.0%)
Asia Pacific up 10.5% (YTD up 3.3%)
Europe up 7.8% (YTD up 10.5%)
Misc Int'l up 4.0% (YTD up 3.9%)

Overall traffic is up ~ 124,000 from March 2014.
Of that over 60,000 is due to the increase in transborder, 23,000 in Asia Pacific traffic and almost 22,000 from the domestic uptick.

The int'l / domestic split is now over 50% international by quite a bit too.

Wow! Those are incredible numbers. What's going on, indeed.

[Johnny Aussie]

Here's a nice little summary of upcoming YVR seasonal services changes... No mention of Comox though :/

http://yvr.ca/en/Blog/Posts/Seasonal_Service_Soars_in_to_YVR.aspx

[cyeg66]

All I gotta say is all this growth is long overdue. Since the early 2000's, YVR has been one of the worst Canadian airport performers. It seems to finally be distancing itself from the pack. In my mind, it should be at or near 25M pax based (esp.) on its geographic location and city size. At this rate, it should get there by 2020-25.

[trofirhen]

That TWOV project was supposed to be announced by now.
If / When it becomes a reality, it will catapult YVR into another league, even if the changes only appear incrementally at first.
Can hardly wait.

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by cyeg66

All I gotta say is all this growth is long overdue. Since the early 2000's, YVR has been one of the worst Canadian airport performers. It seems to finally be distancing itself from the pack. In my mind, it should be at or near 25M pax based (esp.) on its geographic location and city size. At this rate, it should get there by 2020-25.

Per capita YVR is the same or slightly higher now for passengers than Toronto's Pearson. But ya around 2008 2009 YVR stalled a bit pardon the pun.

[Johnny Aussie]

AC 1951 just took off from runway 26L on its way to Osaka-Kansai.

KIX is the 12th Asian airport to be connected with direct flights from YVR. Not bad!

Lots of twitter feed about the launch from YVR.... now that's a cake!

@yvrairport: To celebrate our big inaugural flight today we present Osaka Castle, in cake form! @AirCanadarouge http://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/594190625550958592/photo/1

Pic from push-back.

@yvrairport: Sayōnara! The inaugural @AirCanadarouge flight to Osaka from YVR is off to Japan: http://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/594225086850150400/photo/1

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

AC 1951 just took off from runway 26L on its way to Osaka-Kansai.

KIX is the 12th Asian airport to be connected with direct flights from YVR. Not bad!

Lots of twitter feed about the launch from YVR.... now that's a cake!

@yvrairport: To celebrate our big inaugural flight today we present Osaka Castle, in cake form! @AirCanadarouge http://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/594190625550958592/photo/1

Pic from push-back.

@yvrairport: Sayōnara! The inaugural @AirCanadarouge flight to Osaka from YVR is off to Japan: http://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/594225086850150400/photo/1

The should really have a separate call sign for Rouge. Not the same product as AC mainline flights at all.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

AC 1951 just took off from runway 26L on its way to Osaka-Kansai.

KIX is the 12th Asian airport to be connected with direct flights from YVR. Not bad!

Lots of twitter feed about the launch from YVR.... now that's a cake!

@yvrairport: To celebrate our big inaugural flight today we present Osaka Castle, in cake form! @AirCanadarouge http://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/594190625550958592/photo/1

Pic from push-back.

@yvrairport: Sayōnara! The inaugural @AirCanadarouge flight to Osaka from YVR is off to Japan: http://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/594225086850150400/photo/1

Welcome back , YVR–KIX. We missed you! a short article on the flight: http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/05/vancouver-to-osaka-direct-flight-air-canada/

Can't wait to fly this route. I know it's rouge, but it's also direct!

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by whatnext

The should really have a separate call sign for Rouge. Not the same product as AC mainline flights at all.

Yes, Singapore Airlines and their low-cost carrier Scoot have different IATA codes (SQ vs TZ). Also clear separation for branding purposes. Different strategy by AC I suppose.

[Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Welcome back , YVR–KIX. We missed you! a short article on the flight: http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/05/vancouver-to-osaka-direct-flight-air-canada/

Can't wait to fly this route. I know it's rouge, but it's also direct!

Yes, Yes, Yes!

I also can't wait to drive up to YVR and take this route, non-stop - OSAKA (Best city in Japan!!).

Woo-Hoo!

Keep 'em coming YVR!!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD79NU9UsAAChOY.jpg

[Hot Rod]

Air Canada plane, lesser/leisure product = Rouge.

Nevertheless, hopefully Osaka can blow the socks off and get more business traffic then get upgraded to 787 mainline and/or ANA/JAL add YVR-KIX in addition. Osaka (and Vancouver) are very similar, under-the-radar, underrated world cities IMO that get outshined by larger national rivals. Love 'em both and so glad they are re-connected!

One more routing I'd love to see is YVR-KIX-SIN, return SIN market by capitalizing on KIX (instead of ICN). One could dream.

[Johnny Aussie]

Daily year-round service starting 9 December on 737-700s. The flight will be operated as a red eye.

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...YVR_Welcomes_New_Carrier-3547263362.aspx

AM696 MEX1800-2205YVR 73W Daily
AM697 YVR2320-0700MEX 73W Daily

This route had been rumoured for ages a few years back after Mexicana collapsed.. But hadn't heard anything recently.

This will be AM's third destination in Canada after YYZ and YUL.

AM will be YVR's 8th SkyTeam airline.

[teriyaki]

Love those flight times. A flight leaving at night means one can work the whole day, and then jet off at night and arrive in the morning at their destination. I just... Have to find a reason to visit Mexico now.