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View Poll Results: Which of the designs would you like to see become the new Lansdowne 'Front Lawn'?
Option A: "One Park, Four Landscapes" 12 11.88%
Option B: "Win Place Show" 23 22.77%
Option C: "A Force of Nature" 14 13.86%
Option D: "All Roads Lead to Aberdeen" 16 15.84%
Option E: "The Canal Park in Ottawa" 18 17.82%
None of the above. Please keep my ashphalt. 18 17.82%
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Would need a hotel nearby...
I've heard rumours that a hotel is being considered for the Beer Store site. Not sure how credible they are.
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Still too early from my perspective to designate Lansdowne as a tourist spot. The Byward Market and Rideau Centre actually get tourist due to the following: Tour Buses actually stop in the Market and drop off tourist to walk around and they have guided tours that actually take them to the market and Sussex on their way from the Parliament or way back. The convention centre (Shaw Centre) and hotels are located all around the market with a new one opening right in the Market (Andaz). The market also has a farmers market that is run 7 days a week, not like Lansdowne, which is only on the weekend, and will they open on the statutory holiday, currently, they are not. The Byward Market is next to multiple museums, monuments and parks, such as the National Gallery, Parliament, Photo Gallery, National Arts Centre (NAC) the Locks museum, Bytown museum, the Mint, Art Court, War Memorial and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, Valiants memorial, Aboriginal Veterans memorial, the new Peacekeeping Monument next to the Gallery, The statue of Champlain at Nepean Point, Terry Fox Statue, , confederation Park, Major’s Hill Park, Nepean Point and a few more on the other side of the bridge, still more to name. Lastly, some of the festivals have a presence in the market such as Winterlude, Jazz and Bluefest ,Tulip festival and a major presence at Major Hill Park plus rickshaw in the summer, horse and carriage in the summer and winter, etc….

There is much more in the Market , you really can’t compare to Lansdowne, so no from my perspective.
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I don't really understand what reasons there are for tourist areas to be exempted by these rules that don't also apply to any other retail or entertainment district.
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Still too early from my perspective to designate Lansdowne as a tourist spot. The Byward Market and Rideau Centre actually get tourist due to the following: Tour Buses actually stop in the Market and drop off tourist to walk around and they have guided tours that actually take them to the market and Sussex on their way from the Parliament or way back. The convention centre (Shaw Centre) and hotels are located all around the market with a new one opening right in the Market (Andaz). The market also has a farmers market that is run 7 days a week, not like Lansdowne, which is only on the weekend, and will they open on the statutory holiday, currently, they are not. The Byward Market is next to multiple museums, monuments and parks, such as the National Gallery, Parliament, Photo Gallery, National Arts Centre (NAC) the Locks museum, Bytown museum, the Mint, Art Court, War Memorial and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, Valiants memorial, Aboriginal Veterans memorial, the new Peacekeeping Monument next to the Gallery, The statue of Champlain at Nepean Point, Terry Fox Statue, , confederation Park, Major’s Hill Park, Nepean Point and a few more on the other side of the bridge, still more to name. Lastly, some of the festivals have a presence in the market such as Winterlude, Jazz and Bluefest ,Tulip festival and a major presence at Major Hill Park plus rickshaw in the summer, horse and carriage in the summer and winter, etc….

There is much more in the Market , you really can’t compare to Lansdowne, so no from my perspective.
If you are comparing to the Market, sure. If you are comparing to the Distillery District in Toronto, another artificially constructed district with no hotels or tourist attractions nearby, then maybe Lansdowne's chances look better.
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RedBlacks fans embrace buses but parking, traffic complaints persist

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 20, 2015, Last Updated: April 20, 2015 6:45 PM EDT


The Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group has met the ambitious targets it set to encourage people to take transit or shuttle buses to Ottawa RedBlacks games during the football team’s inaugural season at the redeveloped Lansdowne Park.

OSEG devised a transportation scheme that envisioned 36 per cent of ticket holders would arrive by shuttle after parking at nearby lots, while another 20 per cent would take OC Transpo buses. Cycling and walking were also strongly encouraged over driving in an effort to prevent clogged streets in the Glebe.

The plan, revisited Monday at the city’s transportation committee, appears to have worked, with an average of 55 per cent of ticket holders arriving by shuttle or conventional transit buses.

“People have bought in, people have embraced this,” OSEG CEO Bernie Ashe told the committee.

In fact, significantly more people chose conventional transit — sometimes as high as 41 per cent — while fewer than expected opted for the shuttles, which significantly reduced the number of trips from a high of 186 on opening day to 81 on the night of the RedBlacks’ final home game.

Given this development, OSEG’s transportation manager Hasan Madhoun recommended to the committee on Monday that the total number of off-site parking spaces on game nights be reduced from 4,200 to 2,000, which is still higher than the average number of spaces used last year.

OSEG has not yet said which off-site lots it will use this season.

Despite the apparent success of the game-night strategy, complaints persist about day-to-day traffic and parking issues in and around Lansdowne, particularly on days when the Ottawa 67’s have a home game.

Congestion on Bank Street and a lack of on-street parking are key concerns, Glebe Community Association president Brian Mitchell told the committee.

He urged the city to encourage drivers to use the Queen Elizabeth Driveway entrance instead of Bank and also to promote transit as the best way to access Lansdowne for day-to-day activities, not just big events.

Mitchell also said OC Transpo should consider a trial no-fare zone on part of Bank Street, something an official said could cost “multiple hundreds of thousands” of dollars, depending on how extensive the program would be.

Orléans Coun. Bob Monette suggested OSEG consider letting people park on the field of TD Place in the winter months to expand surface parking for Ottawa 67’s games.

“It’s an initiative we would support completely,” Ashe said.

But Capital Coun. David Chernushenko told the committee he believes the presence of cars on the site continues to be an issue. “I believe we must give pedestrians the priority,” he said.

There were also renewed calls from several community associations for a new foot bridge over the Rideau Canal linking Fifth Avenue and Clegg Street in Old Ottawa East. The project is outlined in the city’s long-term transportation master plan, but there has been some interest at city hall to see the project expedited.

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If you are comparing to the Market, sure. If you are comparing to the Distillery District in Toronto, another artificially constructed district with no hotels or tourist attractions nearby, then maybe Lansdowne's chances look better.
Like I said before, this is something that the City of Ottawa should take up with the Government of Ontario, on the basis that due to our proximity to the Outaouais, where stores remain open, businesses in Ottawa lose millions of $ to those across the river every statutory holiday when stores are closed by law in Ottawa. It just doesn't make sense. Toronto did it (no clue what their reasoning was), so surely Ottawa can too.

On the other hand, its better for Gatineau if it remains status quo, as the boost of sales a few times a year surely is something they have learned to rely on.
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You are probably right. The Byward market is a better tourist attraction than Lansdowne park. There is also the National Gallery of Canada near the market. One can also walk across the Alexandria bridge to the Museum of History in Gatineau. One can also see the photography museum. The tourists can even have a look at the Notre Dame cathedral. There is a newly opened food court at the Rideau Centre where one can have lunch. I am sure that tourists want to have a look at the Parliament buildings and the statue of the Unknown soldier. Tourists can shop at the Byward market. However, Lansdowne park is not completely finished. One will have to wait and see, once Lansdowne park is finished, would it be worth it for tourists to visit it?

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Future provisions have been made in the Retail Business Holidays Act to allow municipalities to exempt themselves from the Act and pass their own version as a by-law... That section is currently not in effect but just needs to be proclaimed by the Lieutenant Governor.

I think if the City wants to look at this, they should lobby the government to implement this section of the legislation, which would allow the City to set its own rules city-wide. Otherwise it's pretty unfair to other commercial landowners that the City would use a very generous interpretation to exempt businesses on its own property, but not businesses in other commercial areas.
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I don't really understand what reasons there are for tourist areas to be exempted by these rules that don't also apply to any other retail or entertainment district.
Probably to promote tourism. It would be hard to get tourists to come for long weekends if attractions are closed, whereas locals could wait a day to check out Winners.
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Glebe councillor says parking cars on TD Place field a bad idea

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 21, 2015, Last Updated: April 21, 2015 5:48 PM EDT


Orléans Coun. Bob Monette’s suggestion that cars should be allowed to park on the field of TD Place in the winter has some people crying foul.

Monette raised the idea Monday during a discussion about transportation in and around the redeveloped Lansdowne Park. He was concerned about a perceived lack of parking on the site during some Ottawa 67’s games this season, and frustrations over game day traffic jams on Bank Street.

Monette had said cars could possibly be rerouted onto Queen Elizabeth Driveway and use that entrance to access the park.

“It would solve your 67’s issue,” he told Bernie Ashe, the executive director of the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group.

Ashe said it’s “an initiative we would support completely.”

But Capital Coun. David Chernushenko says it’s a terrible idea.

“We wanted this to be a site where cars are tolerated, but not invited,” Chernushenko said Tuesday. “This is meant to be a pedestrian precinct on the surface.”

The idea “came completely out of the blue,” he said, adding such a measure would contradict the city’s and OSEG’s combined efforts to encourage park goers to take transit as much as possible, instead of driving.

“It undermines our whole successful message that there’s a better way than driving,” Chernushenko said.

OSEG officials said Monday that those marketing efforts appeared to pay off during the Ottawa RedBlacks’ inaugural season, during which as many as 58 per cent of fans arrived by shuttle or OC Transpo bus.

But concerns around traffic and parking during day-to-day operations at Lansdowne Park persist, with some suggesting the city must do a better job of encouraging people to take transit whenever they visit.

Chernushenko also said there are much better uses for the playing field during the winter months.

This year, it was buried beneath a thick blanket of snow and home to hundreds of snowmen, built in an effort to set a new Guinness World Record for most snowmen built in an hour.

“If that field is available, let’s talk about putting a dome over it,” Chernushenko said. “That’s what I would like it used for.”

Salt and oil dripping off cars would also be a concern, he said, despite OSEG’s suggestion it would cover the field somehow before ever allowing cars to park on it.

George Dark, the urban designer and landscape architect who chaired the city’s strategic design review and advisory panel for Lansdowne, also frowned at the thought of cars parking on the 40-yard-line.

“To me, the more interesting problem is you’ve learned that you’re not optimizing your transit use to the site in the winter, so you want to look at why that’s happening and try to solve that before you look at parking cars on the field,” he said.

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Glebe councillor says parking cars on TD Place field a bad idea

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 21, 2015, Last Updated: April 21, 2015 5:48 PM EDT


Orléans Coun. Bob Monette’s suggestion that cars should be allowed to park on the field of TD Place in the winter has some people crying foul.

Monette raised the idea Monday during a discussion about transportation in and around the redeveloped Lansdowne Park. He was concerned about a perceived lack of parking on the site during some Ottawa 67’s games this season, and frustrations over game day traffic jams on Bank Street.

Monette had said cars could possibly be rerouted onto Queen Elizabeth Driveway and use that entrance to access the park.

“It would solve your 67’s issue,” he told Bernie Ashe, the executive director of the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group.

Ashe said it’s “an initiative we would support completely.”

But Capital Coun. David Chernushenko says it’s a terrible idea.

“We wanted this to be a site where cars are tolerated, but not invited,” Chernushenko said Tuesday. “This is meant to be a pedestrian precinct on the surface.”

The idea “came completely out of the blue,” he said, adding such a measure would contradict the city’s and OSEG’s combined efforts to encourage park goers to take transit as much as possible, instead of driving.

“It undermines our whole successful message that there’s a better way than driving,” Chernushenko said.

OSEG officials said Monday that those marketing efforts appeared to pay off during the Ottawa RedBlacks’ inaugural season, during which as many as 58 per cent of fans arrived by shuttle or OC Transpo bus.

But concerns around traffic and parking during day-to-day operations at Lansdowne Park persist, with some suggesting the city must do a better job of encouraging people to take transit whenever they visit.

Chernushenko also said there are much better uses for the playing field during the winter months.

This year, it was buried beneath a thick blanket of snow and home to hundreds of snowmen, built in an effort to set a new Guinness World Record for most snowmen built in an hour.

“If that field is available, let’s talk about putting a dome over it,” Chernushenko said. “That’s what I would like it used for.”

Salt and oil dripping off cars would also be a concern, he said, despite OSEG’s suggestion it would cover the field somehow before ever allowing cars to park on it.

George Dark, the urban designer and landscape architect who chaired the city’s strategic design review and advisory panel for Lansdowne, also frowned at the thought of cars parking on the 40-yard-line.

“To me, the more interesting problem is you’ve learned that you’re not optimizing your transit use to the site in the winter, so you want to look at why that’s happening and try to solve that before you look at parking cars on the field,” he said.

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Lansdowne park is not much of a problem to me because I just walk there from my house. I do not even drive a car. To me, taking the city bus, biking, taking a shuttle bus, and walking is far cheaper than driving a car. Driving a car causes pollution in the air.
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Lansdowne gets A+ for traffic at RedBlacks games
Glebe, Old Ottawa South still squeezed for street parking as retail increases

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Ottawa West News, Apr 21, 2015




Glebe residents have been pleasantly surprised to see more fans taking transit to football games at Lansdowne Park than expected, but they’re still looking to the city to solve day-to-day parking problems on nearby side streets.

More than 60 per cent of Ottawa RedBlacks ticket holders used an alternative form of transportation to get to games last year, via public transit, cycling, walking or free shuttles provided by the stadium.

That’s a far cry from what many Glebe residents predicted would happen when the park redevelopment was proposed seven years ago.

Residents were convinced the area would be overrun by drivers trying to get to games. At a transportation committee meeting on April 20, Capital Coun. David Chernushenko said he’s happy to report no one can say, “I told you so.”

Surveys from four different RedBlacks games found that 50 per cent of ticket holders took transit or shuttles, while 14 per cent walked and four per cent rode their bikes.

And traffic flow has remained fairly steady on game days. Speeds averaged between 46 and 59 kilometres per hour in the lead up to the first five games, according to the city’s traffic data.

The results were also positive for Ottawa Fury and Ottawa 67s games, which didn’t benefit from free park and ride shuttles. Despite that, the Ottawa Sport and Entertainment Group, which operates the park, doubled its expected number of transit users to more than 20 per cent, per game, on average.

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But while traffic management for major events has been hailed a great success, residents living around the park want the city to address the day-to-day parking squeeze as more and more retail opens up.

Brian Mitchell, chairman the Glebe Community Association’s traffic committee, said side streets across from Lansdowne like Wilton Lane, Melgund Avenue, Monk Street, Oakland Avenue and Woodlawn Avenue used to have 40 per cent of their on-street parking spots in use at any given time in 2009.

“Today its 90 per cent utilization, which more or less means you can’t find a parking spot,” Mitchell said.

The free parking that used to be available to local workers at Lansdowne is gone now, which has pushed hundreds of extra cars onto side streets, which west of Bank still offer three-hour parking.

The change has cost the Glebe Centre long term care home more than 100 volunteers – almost a third of the unpaid army the non-profit centre needs to deliver its services – with most citing lack of parking as the reason they quit, Mitchell said. The centre could not be reached for comment.

Lansdowne’s commercial area is about 85 per cent occupied now, according to OSEG CEO Bernie Ashe, and many of the stores are the first and only locations in Ottawa, including Whole Foods, Sporting Life and, most recently, a 10-screen “VIP” movie theatre that serves alcohol during films.

That’s drawing a whole new crowd of shoppers to the area who are using on-street parking to avoid paying fees in the underground parking garage.

And Mitchell said Lansdowne employees are also starting to opt for on-street parking.

He said the Glebe community association would like to see parking limits reduced to one hour west of Bank, as they have been on the east side along Holmwood Avenue, Adelaide Street and O’Connor Street.

Other issues outlined in a traffic report published by the association in March include:
  • Weekend congestion on Bank Street, particularly on days the Ottawa 67s are playing
  • Lack of signage encouraging drivers to use the Queen Elizabeth Driveway to access Lansdowne
  • Unsafe crossing at the Bank Street Bridge on the Queen Elizabeth Driveway
  • Cut-through traffic on Holmwood Avenue east of Bank
  • Dangerous cycling conditions on the Bank Street Bridge.

So far city staff has not taken residents up on the suggestion to reduce the west side to one-hour limits, but traffic planner Phil Landry confirmed at a transportation committee meeting on April 20 that the city will be increasing signage and sharrows to make sure drivers know the bridge is a cycling priority area.

Mitchell said a key solution to the ongoing day-to-day issues is to get more people onto transit.

To that end, the community association has asked staff to consider testing a no-fare zone along Bank Street to help tourists and shoppers access the Glebe during the busiest times, such as weekends and Thursday and Friday evenings.

OC Transpo operations manager Pat Scrimgeour said it could cost “multiple hundreds of thousands” a year to implement such a zone, depending on the scope and scale of the project. However OC Transpo will increase weekend service on routes 1 and 7 this spring to try to accommodate extra visitors to the area.

At the city committee meeting, Ashe said OSEG would also be open to allowing parking on the stadium field in the winter months, when the stadium field is otherwise buried in snow.

That doesn’t solve the problem in high season, but by summer 2016 a 150-spot parking garage at Second Avenue should also take some pressure off.

GETTING TO GAMES

During Ottawa RedBlacks games, city staff and managers at OSEG had predicted that about 20 per cent of ticket holders would use transit to access the park, about 4,800 people, while 36 per cent would take the free shuttles from park and rides set up at Carleton University, the RA Centre, Canada Post headquarters and Vincent Massey Park.

But those numbers ended up reversed; over the entire season an average of 37 per cent of ticket holders took public transit – as many as 41 per cent, in the case of the final game on Oct. 31 – while only 18 per cent used the free shuttles. The park and rides only had about 1,600 cars parked per game, even though 4,200 were available.

For 2015, OSEG planners suggested the off-site parking spaces be cut in half and concentrated at only two locations, rather than continuing to offer four different shuttle routes.

The report also called for greater emphasis on OC Transpo park and ride shuttles, since they were so well used last year, and better promotion of the stadium’s secure on-site bike parking service, which only saw 1.5 per cent of the total modal share last season.

The Glebe association has also asked the city to make the shuttle routes on the Queen Elizabeth Driveway permanent. The routes were altered halfway through the season because residents on Lakeside Avenue were incensed their street was full of buses.

The National Capital Commission, which owns the driveway, said it “continues to work with the city” to identify options for 2015 and beyond.

“The NCC feels that last year’s operation was successful. We will inform the public once we’ve finalized this year’s solution,” said spokesman Mario Tremblay.

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Parking cars on the field? Seriously? That is absolutely the dumbest idea for Lansdowne I've heard in a long time.
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100% agreed, dumb idea, they should instead re-erect the dome for indoor soccer in the colder months.
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Congestion on Bank Street and a lack of on-street parking are key concerns, Glebe Community Association president Brian Mitchell told the committee.

He urged the city to encourage drivers to use the Queen Elizabeth Driveway entrance instead of Bank and also to promote transit as the best way to access Lansdowne for day-to-day activities, not just big events.
It would help if OC Transpo would assign large-enough buses, and enough large-enough buses, to meet the demand.

They do not.
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It would help if OC Transpo would assign large-enough buses, and enough large-enough buses, to meet the demand.

They do not.
Why don't they use the double decker buses to go to Lansdowne park? At least, with double decker buses, you can fit more people. Some people should just take taxis to go to Lansdowne park. At least, a taxi driver can drop you off and then just drive off.
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I still find it funny that the Glebite is complaining that parking spaces are being used for parking... heaven forbid!
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Crust & Crate Public House and Industria Brassiere Italian applying for a liquor licence
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When will these two restaurants open? Are they pizza places? Are they considered fast food restaurants or just regular restaurants? Will they have pasta dishes in these two restaurants?

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When will these two restaurants open? Are they pizza places? Are they considered fast food restaurants or just regular restaurants? Will they have pasta dishes in these two restaurants?

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Crust and crate website:
'Crust & Crate is a new twist on a pizza pub. Serving Al Forno style pizza and gastropub food with a focus on local, seasonal ingredients.'
http://crustandcrate.com/

As for the Industria Brassiere Italienne I believe it is a second location for a Montreal Restaurant of the same name. Described as 'Industria Brasserie Italienne is a modern pizzeria and brasserie offering a fusion of authentic and modern Italian cuisine – SFIZI style! What is that ‘S’ word? SFIZI are Italy’s version of tapas or sharing plates. Italians love to share and the plates and portions are designed to do so.' Essentially Italian Tapas.
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