YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Hourglass

Actually trofirhen, there's nothing to stop Air India from starting YVR-DEL right now (http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes...irlines-canadian-carriers-weekly-flights).

The main issue right now is not legal but rather economic -- ie whether anyone can actually make money flying non-stop from YVR to India.

Thank you for that link.
Yes, the new agreement really does open stuff up!
As you say, it's a question of will it make money or not?
Maybe there's another carrier in India who might be interested. Who knows?
Not so long ago, people were telling me that YVR - CDG would remain a seasonal summer route for years to come.

[red-paladin]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Firstly, I am NOT a home-town hater. If I were, I would not be haunting the pages of SSP Vancouver.
Secondly, I realize Vancouver has gained a respectable profile on the world stage: Habitat 76, Commowealth Conf '85, Expo 86, Clinton-Yeltson Summit (??) '93 etc. And yes, I do see Vancouver as a relevant place. Please don't lay this shit-trip on me.

I didn't say that you were a home-town hater, merely influenced if you asked why he was visiting at all.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by phesto

Another pic, this one from YYZ:

VT-EVB by YYZ John, on Flickr

Why are there two Air India 747s in this pic? Is he flying with that big of an entourage?

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Why are there two Air India 747s in this pic? Is he flying with that big of an entourage?

It might actually be a stand-by aircraft as the 744 carrying PM Modi on his visit to Europe developed engine problems and another one had to be brought in to fly him to Canada.

[Vagabond]

Originally Posted by dubsH

Although it'd be nice having more airlines at YVR, I don't think I would personally fly Air India after these two recent incidents:

"Air India grounds two pilots after captain 'beaten up' in cockpit" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/06/air-india-grounds-two-pilots-after-cockpit-dispute

"Air India fails to attract any candidates for pilot jobs" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destin...tract-any-candidates-for-pilot-jobs.html

It seems every few months an embarrassing story comes out about some mishap on an AI international flight. Their European routes seem particularly prone to cancellations, reroutes, and backed up toilets.

It's a bit of a shame, really, as their domestic service has a decent overall reputation in India, and & AC's codeshare on AI's flights from LHR to India make for some of the cheapest & best connections ex-YVR. However, there is really no debate, especially when LH is usually around the same price, and airlines like CX, KE (and now AF) are only slightly more.

[Klazu]

"Some months ago, our ultra long Boeing 777 New York-Delhi flight was faced with an identical problem," the official said. "The pilots first wanted to divert to London but Heathrow was closed for the night. Then somehow one toilet became serviceable and passengers decided to fly to Delhi. The crew and some passengers rationed the use of the toilet for passengers."

The real horror was discovered when the toilets were serviced in Delhi. "Everything made available to passengers for free was found flushed down the toilet," another official said. "Dozens of small blankets and pillows, items in overnight pouches such as socks, slippers and towels were flushed down."

[s211]

Originally Posted by Klazu

"Some months ago, our ultra long Boeing 777 New York-Delhi flight was faced with an identical problem," the official said. "The pilots first wanted to divert to London but Heathrow was closed for the night. Then somehow one toilet became serviceable and passengers decided to fly to Delhi. The crew and some passengers rationed the use of the toilet for passengers."

The real horror was discovered when the toilets were serviced in Delhi. "Everything made available to passengers for free was found flushed down the toilet," another official said. "Dozens of small blankets and pillows, items in overnight pouches such as socks, slippers and towels were flushed down."

We have certainly come a long way from the glamour of the Jet Age.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Klazu

"Some months ago, our ultra long Boeing 777 New York-Delhi flight was faced with an identical problem," the official said. "The pilots first wanted to divert to London but Heathrow was closed for the night. Then somehow one toilet became serviceable and passengers decided to fly to Delhi. The crew and some passengers rationed the use of the toilet for passengers."

The real horror was discovered when the toilets were serviced in Delhi. "Everything made available to passengers for free was found flushed down the toilet," another official said. "Dozens of small blankets and pillows, items in overnight pouches such as socks, slippers and towels were flushed down."

hmmmm ..... who would do such a disgusting thing?

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

hmmmm ..... who would do such a disgusting thing?

People who don't fly very often, don't listen to the safety briefings, don't read signs, or are simply amused by the vacuum action of the toilets, lol.

I once sat next to a very nice lady on a flight from China to HK who clearly hadn't flown before. How do I know this? She didn't have a clue how to fasten her seatbelt, and ended up securing it like one would tie a shoelace (this was after the safety demonstration btw). I had to unknot it for her and show her how to fasten it properly. The flight attendants were rather bemused...

[Johnny Aussie]

Sunwing has updated their summer scheds and they have added two addtional weekly flights to YYZ and an additional one to CUN.

There will be a total of 15 weekly Sunwing flights out of YVR this summer.

That's up from nine last summer.

Flight breakdown is: nine weekly to YYZ, two weekly to CUN, and one weekly each to PVR, SJD, SNU and VRA. All flights operate non-stop except for one of the flights to CUN and the flight to SNU which operate via YYC in both directions.

[YVR Bruce]

June 6 is the day YYZ joins YVR in the exclusive group having decent rail transit access in this country .

'Would be nice if the Albertans would join too

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

June 6 is the day YYZ joins YVR in the exclusive group having decent rail transit access in this country .

'Would be nice if the Albertans would join too

Yes, not to mention something weatherproof from YUL Montreal to downtown;
Maybe the ride on the YYZ train is snazzier, but in terms of price, YVR is a much better deal.
BTW, how do you imagine the possibilty of airport rail in Alberta? That interests me. Thanks.

[Valley_Refugee]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Yes, not to mention something weatherproof from YUL Montreal to downtown;
Maybe the ride on the YYZ train is snazzier, but in terms of price, YVR is a much better deal.
BTW, how do you imagine the possibilty of airport rail in Alberta? That interests me. Thanks.

The C-Train stops not all that far from YYC now. They could easily build a spur to the airport.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

June 6 is the day YYZ joins YVR in the exclusive group having decent rail transit access in this country .

'Would be nice if the Albertans would join too

And no doubt it will be greeted in Toronto papers with "Canada's first Airport Express Rail Link" which, depending on how you look at it, would be true.

Like other express links, the Airport Line will likely skew to be more business passengers. I assume the public bus service isn't being replaced.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

June 6 is the day YYZ joins YVR in the exclusive group having decent rail transit access in this country .

'Would be nice if the Albertans would join too

Working on it.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

The C-Train stops not all that far from YYC now. They could easily build a spur to the airport.

They could, but why haven't they? I mean, it looks like it's just fields between the C-Train and YYC, yet I haven't heard anything regarding an airport link. It's maybe 6km tops. It may require some tunnelling and some infrastructure near the airport, but it would have been great to have spent all that oil money when times were good, eh?

[Large Cat]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

They could, but why haven't they? I mean, it looks like it's just fields between the C-Train and YYC, yet I haven't heard anything regarding an airport link. It's maybe 6km tops. It may require some tunnelling and some infrastructure near the airport, but it would have been great to have spent all that oil money when times were good, eh?

I know, for the love of God, it's horrible. Everything is flat and empty, it could be SO easy.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

And no doubt it will be greeted in Toronto papers with "Canada's first Airport Express Rail Link" which, depending on how you look at it, would be true.

Like other express links, the Airport Line will likely skew to be more business passengers. I assume the public bus service isn't being replaced.

At least the Canada Line is electric. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Toronto's YYZ train is diesel .... all that black soot ... until the cars are replaced down the road.

[Spork]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

They could, but why haven't they? I mean, it looks like it's just fields between the C-Train and YYC, yet I haven't heard anything regarding an airport link. It's maybe 6km tops. It may require some tunnelling and some infrastructure near the airport, but it would have been great to have spent all that oil money when times were good, eh?

I believe that they have another runway planned on those fields. Don't quote me on it, but I did some cursory research while waiting in YYC on a changeover.

[spaceprobe]

Originally Posted by Spork

I believe that they have another runway planned on those fields. Don't quote me on it, but I did some cursory research while waiting in YYC on a changeover.

They currently have an express bus to the airport. When time (and demand) is right, they intend to replace the express bus (which goes down Center Street) with a new light rail line. This would be the line that goes to the airport (rather than a spur line from the existing NE c-train route. However, the airport bus route has thus far been quite sparse in terms of passengers going to/from the airport, even though it directly brings passengers between the airport and many major hotels downtown.

There is also rumors that the future high speed rail from Calgary to Edmonton would have a stop at YYC (thus making yyc the primary airport for both cities). This seems like a pipedream...but that is the talk.