ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 689

arctk2014 · #**13761** Posted **Apr 21, 2015, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by ericdeatl

A question/concern regarding the Wood Partners 33 Peachtree Place development (across from the Midtown MARTA station):

The exterior of the parking deck as seen in the construction webcam is much less articulated and attractive than the published renderings:

WebCam view:

http://www.truelook.com/clients/balfourbeattyus-33peachtree/?full

Renderings:

http://devmap.io/developments/33-peachtree-place

I wonder if any features will be added to the exterior of the garage walls (above the first-floor retail extensions) to improve the appearance. If not, or if these variations were not agreed to by the DRC, is this a violation of some sort for which they could be required to compensate (e.g. by adding exterior features such as trellises, greenery, etc. to these walls)?

It's still under construction....did you expect it to look like the renderings to the tee? or did you expect it to look like a finished product before they've even finished the parking deck?

I'm sure there were some value engineering decisions to remove some of the details but they'll still be required to provide fenestration details per their submittal to the DRC.

Atlanta3000 · #**13762** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 12:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by arjay57

As I recall they had plans for a mixed use project there before the real estate crash. Maybe they are bringing it back?

Here it is......

http://www.tonetoatl.com/2015/04/yet-another-new-apartment-complex-is.html

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robertjhajek · #**13763** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 2:12 AM**

Buckhead is slowly but surely becoming a walkable urban area.

arjay57 · #**13764** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 1:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Here it is......

Thanks, Atlanta3000. It'll be great if they can develop that new street next to the building.

ericdeatl · #**13765** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 1:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

It's still under construction....did you expect it to look like the renderings to the tee? or did you expect it to look like a finished product before they've even finished the parking deck?

I'm sure there were some value engineering decisions to remove some of the details but they'll still be required to provide fenestration details per their submittal to the DRC.

The main changes I see that I am concerned represent the final appearance are:

1. The garage windows/openings in the renderings look like full-size windows, whereas the outer walls that have been constructed have only narrow horizontal slits, much like the horrible original SkyHouse (north) garage. If the final appearance is to even somewhat match the attractive appearance in the rendering, "fake" windows would have to be constructed in front of these slits, which I doubt will be done. The only thing that would improve these at this point would be some sort of masking trellises or grates. It seems like the DRC would have had to approve such a significant change in the appearance of these walls.

2. The garage walls in the renderings contain more variation in height and have portions which extend toward/recede away from the street, whereas the constructed walls are much more a single plane, eliminating the sense of the garage being an actual building as opposed to just a cement garage. Again, it seems like the DRC would have to approve this type of value engineering as it drastically changes the character of this massive structure.

NewUrbanist90 · #**13766** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 1:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by ericdeatl

The main changes I see that I am concerned represent the final appearance are:

1. The garage windows/openings in the renderings look like full-size windows, whereas the outer walls that have been constructed have only narrow horizontal slits, much like the horrible original SkyHouse (north) garage. If the final appearance is to even somewhat match the attractive appearance in the rendering, "fake" windows would have to be constructed in front of these slits, which I doubt will be done. The only thing that would improve these at this point would be some sort of masking trellises or grates. It seems like the DRC would have had to approve such a significant change in the appearance of these walls.

2. The garage walls in the renderings contain more variation in height and have portions which extend toward/recede away from the street, whereas the constructed walls are much more a single plane, eliminating the sense of the garage being an actual building as opposed to just a cement garage. Again, it seems like the DRC would have to approve this type of value engineering as it drastically changes the character of this massive structure.

I still can't believe that a garage is facing West Peachtree Street.

jpk1292000 · #**13767** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 2:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by NewUrbanist90

I still can't believe that a garage is facing West Peachtree Street.

Hopefully this is not the final result. What a miserable failure if it is...nearly an entire block of garage facing a very active street.

Edit: I think that the final result will look much better...yes there's a garage facing West Peachtree, but they can (hopefully) do a decent job with the retail space in front of it...

nature's calling · #**13768** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 5:16 PM**

Looks like The Related Group and Simon have zeroed in on the property where the Christian Church of Buckhead currently stands for a new high-rise building. Figured it was only a matter of time that church would get scooped up as it sits on prime real-estate.

http://buckheadview.com/2015/04/22/high-rise-apartments-may-replace-christian-church-of-buckhead/

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The Related Group of Miami, which has been trying to get a signature development project out of the ground in Atlanta since 2006, is scheduled to present yet a new Buckhead apartment project at the May 6 meeting of the Development Review Committee of SPI-12 (Special Public Interest district).

According to Livable Buckhead Executive Director Denise Starling, who oversees the DRC process for Buckhead’s SPI-12, Related Group is on the agenda to present plans for a high-rise residential tower that would be built at the corner of Peachtree and Stratford roads.

The 2.3-acre site currently includes the home of Christian Church of Buckhead and is adjacent to the site of SkyHouse Buckhead, a 26-story 362-unit apartment tower that just celebrated its grand opening, and a half-block from another high-rise apartment project under construction on Peachtree Road named Cyan.

The Related Group reportedly is partnering with an affiliate of Ackerman & Co. on the project. The size of the project is unknown, but Related Group does have the property under contract. Ackerman & Co. has owned all of the property along that side of Stratford Road for a long time.

What is interesting is that this proposed development site is almost across Peachtree Road from a site behind Lenox Square mall where Related Group had previously submitted plans for twin high-rise apartment towers in conjunction with Simon Property Group Inc., which owns the mall.

Simon and Related Group entered talks in 2013 about a two-phase development project behind the mall that included 750 residential units. But reports are that Simon now is reaching out to other prospective development partners for that project.

Back in 2006, Related Group had big development plans for Buckhead, proposing a $2 billion project called CityPlace Buckhead on 16 acres at Roxboro and East Paces Ferry roads. That project was to have included at least six condo towers with roughly 3,800 units.

Related pulled the plug on that project when the credit market dried up due to the recent recession. The complexion of the project has changed dramatically and now is being developed primarily as apartments by Amli.

BuckheadView plans to cover the May 6 meeting of the SPI-12 Development Review Committee and will report on what is presented regarding the new Related Group project on Peachtree.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**13769** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 5:38 PM**

Permit updates:
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*AMLI Arts Center resolved address issue and permit is almost complete. Only Site Dev approval left
*Broadstone Terraces has conditional approval
*Modera Midtown filed for new construction permit on 04/20 (Site Dev and Building approval still pending in land dev permit)
*Hanover Midtown is close as well they resubmitted plans 04/20 and only building plan/water services approval pending.
*Post Midtown Millenium land dev permit is waiting on arborist approval
*Eviva Peachtree land dev. permit is approved, is in plan coordination due to complete 04/23

ATLSkyPalaceOwner · #**13770** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Permit updates:
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*AMLI Arts Center resolved address issue and permit is almost complete. Only Site Dev approval left
*Broadstone Terraces has conditional approval
*Modera Midtown filed for new construction permit on 04/20 (Site Dev and Building approval still pending in land dev permit)
*Hanover Midtown is close as well they resubmitted plans 04/20 and only building plan/water services approval pending.
*Post Midtown Millenium land dev permit is waiting on arborist approval
*Eviva Peachtree land dev. permit is approved, is in plan coordination due to complete 04/23

So out of these 6, which 2 or 3 would you say do you think will go up first? And do these permits pretty much mean that construction will (almost) definitely happen at some point? I wish I knew more about this stuff

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**13771** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 5:58 PM**

I'm not an expert either

I think all of these are probably likely to start within a month

, but for sure ones that filed new construction permits are probably more certain because you have to pay much higher permit fees initially $100k+

I thought someone mentioned Broadstone wanted to start in April as well. Too hard to tell what will come first as in a day permit can change states quickly like AMLI Arts Center did, it had been stagnant for months.

RATBOYKEV · #**13772** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 6:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

*Broadstone Terraces has conditional approval

It looks like demo is just about complete for Broadstone

arctk2014 · #**13773** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 7:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Worthing Companies has filed land disturbance permits at 903 Huff (adjacent to the waterworks lake) for a new apartment building.

Found this in a search from back in 2013 when it was rezoned to multi-family. Not sure how much has changed for the plan. It still is the same name for the development (they are lazy with names, they have another development Heights @ West Midtown and now this one Heights @ Midtown West):
http://citycouncil.atlantaga.gov/2013/images/adopted/1202/12O0157.pdf (pg.6/ Five story with basement 282 units)

The timing of this project would mean that Huff Road should be getting a center turning lane per the plans submitted - which has been a project highlighted under the infrastructure bond package.

cokezero · #**13774** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by nature's calling

Looks like The Related Group and Simon have zeroed in on the property where the Christian Church of Buckhead currently stands for a new high-rise building. Figured it was only a matter of time that church would get scooped up as it sits on prime real-estate.

http://buckheadview.com/2015/04/22/high-rise-apartments-may-replace-christian-church-of-buckhead/

If I remember correctly, there was actually a proposal to build a high-rise Hilton hotel on this very site during the last boom. I don't remember much about it, but I'd be curious how the height and scale of this new proposal compares to the old Hilton proposal. Anyone else remember that deal?

arjay57 · #**13775** Posted **Apr 22, 2015, 11:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by cokezero

If I remember correctly, there was actually a proposal to build a high-rise Hilton hotel on this very site during the last boom. I don't remember much about it, but I'd be curious how the height and scale of this new proposal compares to the old Hilton proposal. Anyone else remember that deal?

I think this was the earlier proposal.

Of course that was pre-recession thinking. Perhaps that is a bit ambitious for today's world? I honestly don't know.

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Phase two of Ackerman's project will boast a luxury, 300-room Hilton hotel, topped by 190 condos in a 43-story tower, with a five-story underground parking deck. (Ackerman says to imagine a Hilton more akin to a Ritz-Carlton.)

Ackerman plans The Stratford

briantech · #**13776** Posted **Apr 23, 2015, 12:20 AM**

According to this ABC article, there is currently a lack of Class A office space here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/real_...uilding-owners-poised-for-robust-if.html

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As Atlanta’s office market continues to heat up, tenants in the market are finding fewer class A options.... The available options are 20 to 30 percent more expensive than they were just 24 months ago ... Scarcity of available large class A blocks of space will force larger users to consider class B options.

But then to the contrary, I've read several people say Atlanta is not going to be getting any really tall office building proposals anytime soon because there is too much office space currently vacant.

Does this article mean the market might be getting closer to supporting an actual skyscraper proposal again?

Atlanta3000 · #**13777** Posted **Apr 23, 2015, 12:39 AM**

In Today's WTF News:

NCR considering strategic alternatives including sale of company
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog/...ng-strategic-alternatives-including.html

These sons-a-bitches got everyone excited and now they want to pull this shit!!! NCR is dead to me.

arctk2014 · #**13778** Posted **Apr 23, 2015, 12:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by jpk1292000

Hopefully this is not the final result. What a miserable failure if it is...nearly an entire block of garage facing a very active street.

Edit: I think that the final result will look much better...yes there's a garage facing West Peachtree, but they can (hopefully) do a decent job with the retail space in front of it...

Looks like a combination of metal mesh and vertical metal posts will begin to break up the facade- which obviously aren't going to be installed as soon as the precast goes up.

Driver8 · #**13779** Posted **Apr 23, 2015, 1:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

In Today's WTF News:

NCR considering strategic alternatives including sale of company
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog/...ng-strategic-alternatives-including.html

These sons-a-bitches got everyone excited and now they want to pull this shit!!! NCR is dead to me.

Well, that sure is disappointing news.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**13780** Posted **Apr 23, 2015, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

In Today's WTF News:

NCR considering strategic alternatives including sale of company
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog/...ng-strategic-alternatives-including.html

These sons-a-bitches got everyone excited and now they want to pull this shit!!! NCR is dead to me.

Nothing has changed as far as I know. (I work for NCR). They even had sessions with the architects where we got to voice our opinions on what we are looking for in terms of the office amenities and whatnot. Moving to a SaaS has always been a goal since I joined the company as well. They haven't mentioned anything about being sold internally yet though I bet this article will spur some discussions tomorrow lol.