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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 1:38 PM
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Ok, that's good. I've been experiencing it ever since I moved to the St. Laurent area a couple years ago, so I thought it's always been like that.
This is what the final configuration will look like. The Vanier South to 417 West ramp will extend right to the Nicholas off ramp.

http://queenswayexpansioneast.com/reports/Final%20Stage%20-%20Sheet%201.pdf

Keep in mind there will be some transit lanes temporarily beforehand. That diagram is the 2018 version.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 1:41 PM
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First you have to see if those bridges are actually a candidate to do a rapid replacement on. Not all bridges are. Worry about the same to do it second.

Bronson bridge, for instance, doesn't look to be a candidate for rapid replacement.
Yep. I had no idea which was which. I know not all would be. It was just a visual Google maps survey.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 1:55 PM
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Can somebody post the temporary alignment of bus traffic & stations/stops once transitway closes? Especially on 417, just wondering how this will work
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 2:09 PM
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Yep. I had no idea which was which. I know not all would be. It was just a visual Google maps survey.
I drive under Bronson bridge everyday. It looks to be a rigid frame bridge. The idea of cutting the abutments off likely doesn't work. I don't know for sure.

Our firm is doing some prelim options on bridges on the 417 east (from Airport Parkway). Some do include a couple rapid replacement options, one would be the longest ever attempted.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 6:05 PM
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I drive under Bronson bridge everyday. It looks to be a rigid frame bridge. The idea of cutting the abutments off likely doesn't work. I don't know for sure.

Our firm is doing some prelim options on bridges on the 417 east (from Airport Parkway). Some do include a couple rapid replacement options, one would be the longest ever attempted.
I assume that you mean the Aviation Parkway? And do you mean Hwy 417 or 174? Why do bridges need reconstructing along there... for the Confederation line Phase II?
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 6:32 PM
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This is what the final configuration will look like. The Vanier South to 417 West ramp will extend right to the Nicholas off ramp.

http://queenswayexpansioneast.com/reports/Final%20Stage%20-%20Sheet%201.pdf

Keep in mind there will be some transit lanes temporarily beforehand. That diagram is the 2018 version.
The West Bound 417 approach after the Nicholas/ King Edward Off ramp and before the Nicholas / Greenfield On ramp appears to be 4 lanes wide?

I thought it was determined earlier in thread it would be 3 lanes maximum for the indefinite future? Am I reading it wrong?
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 7:27 PM
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I assume that you mean the Aviation Parkway? And do you mean Hwy 417 or 174? Why do bridges need reconstructing along there... for the Confederation line Phase II?
Sorry, yes aviation parkway. And yes along 417 towards Montreal.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 7:39 PM
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The West Bound 417 approach after the Nicholas/ King Edward Off ramp and before the Nicholas / Greenfield On ramp appears to be 4 lanes wide?

I thought it was determined earlier in thread it would be 3 lanes maximum for the indefinite future? Am I reading it wrong?
It does appear to be that way. With the fifth most right lane exiting at Nicolas with the option in the 4th most right lane to exit or continue west. Then that lane appears to end between the Lees overpass and the merging on-ramps from Nicolas.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 8:01 PM
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It does appear to be that way. With the fifth most right lane exiting at Nicolas with the option in the 4th most right lane to exit or continue west. Then that lane appears to end between the Lees overpass and the merging on-ramps from Nicolas.
The final design for the queensway includes four through traffic lanes up to the on/off ramps over elgin st. The Nicolas St bridge needs to be rebuilt first before that extension can take place, but that's why there will be a fourth lane there.
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Sorry, yes aviation parkway. And yes along 417 towards Montreal.
There are replacements funded in the current MTO 5 year plan for the Walkley and Innes bridges... is that what your firm is working on?

I heard this "non-Queensway" section of the highway, from the split/Aviation down to the QC border, was built rather shoddily because it was rushed for completion before the 1976 Olympics and so major rehab work has to be done sooner than normal.
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I heard this "non-Queensway" section of the highway, from the split/Aviation down to the QC border, was built rather shoddily because it was rushed for completion before the 1976 Olympics and so major rehab work has to be done sooner than normal.
Don't know about this but yes, I frequent this route and a lot of it feels like a cow path. Drive 120km/h on Carling and this is what some of that section of the 417 feels like. Not pleasant.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2015, 4:12 PM
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There are replacements funded in the current MTO 5 year plan for the Walkley and Innes bridges... is that what your firm is working on?

I heard this "non-Queensway" section of the highway, from the split/Aviation down to the QC border, was built rather shoddily because it was rushed for completion before the 1976 Olympics and so major rehab work has to be done sooner than normal.
http://www.highway417eastbridges.com/
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2015, 6:12 PM
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I drive under Bronson bridge everyday. It looks to be a rigid frame bridge. The idea of cutting the abutments off likely doesn't work. I don't know for sure.

Our firm is doing some prelim options on bridges on the 417 east (from Airport Parkway). Some do include a couple rapid replacement options, one would be the longest ever attempted.
Would that be the 3-303, depicted here?
http://www.highway417eastbridges.com/aviation_bc.html

The southern half of that does indeed look like a very long span (I'm assuming it would be done in two pieces, meeting at a central pier of some sort).
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2015, 9:08 PM
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Would that be the 3-303, depicted here?
http://www.highway417eastbridges.com/aviation_bc.html

The southern half of that does indeed look like a very long span (I'm assuming it would be done in two pieces, meeting at a central pier of some sort).
I think that's the one. There was some talk about having to turn it 180 degrees to install. I haven't done any work on it, besides some printing issues.

I'm too busy upsetting northern Ontario mayors.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 5:32 PM
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Queensway bridge replacements could start in 2018
Ministry of Transportation unveils preliminary plan for replacement and repair

By Steph Willems
Ottawa West News, Mar 05, 2015


The Ministry of Transportation has formed a plan on how to deal with some of Ottawa’s aging Queensway bridges, meaning residents will see a years-long period of repair and replacement.

A total of 23 bridges in 12 locations throughout the city core and west side are included in the MTO’s preliminary design and environmental assessment study. The spans, located between Holland Avenue and O’Connor Street, were constructed in the early-to-mid-1960s and are nearing the end of their lifespan.

Residents attending a Feb. 26 open house for the project (the second so far) learned what preferred options the MTO has for each span. In each case, extensive rehabilitation or outright replacement is planned, though that work won’t be for a few years.

“You’re going to see some minor maintenance work – some minor patch work – probably in 2016, and that’s really with the goal of getting to what we consider the major rehabilitations or the replacements, which we’re planning on 2018 and outwards,” said Don Rowat, senior project engineer with the MTO’s planning and design section.

“We obviously can’t do all the bridges in one year, for a variety of reasons. You don’t want to be closing off adjacent streets at the same time – you try and span them out between several construction seasons.”

Rowat sees the end period of construction as being 2025, with the ministry co-ordinating work with the city as much as possible.

The preferred solution for the Holland, Parkdale Avenue, Fairmont Avenue, Bayswater Avenue, Bank Street and O’Connor bridges is rapid bridge rehabilitation, while the Preston Street, Rochester Street, Booth Street, Bronson Avenue and Percy Street spans would see rapid bridge replacement.

The designs for the repaired spans show upgraded, contemporary facades for the bridge frames and sound barriers. New asphalt, waterproofing, approach slabs and substructure refacing are included in the planned repair work.

Two staging areas for the construction of the replacement spans were identified in the study – one in the surface parking lot on Beech Street between Preston and Rochester, and the other on the site of the former school board building at Bronson and Chamberlain Street.

The MTO already owns that building and plans to demolish it later this year in preparation for the staging area and a street realignment that is part of the Queensway bridge project. The realignment will see vehicles coming off the eastbound Bronson off-ramp continue east on Chamberlain, without having to turn right, then make a left at the current intersection.

Like past projects, the replacement of the bridge spans would be accomplished in a weekend, with traffic re-routing plans put into effect for each location. Lane reductions would be required for the repair work.

Before any of these bridges see serious work, the most complicated span will require replacement – that being the existing three-span crossing of the O-Train tracks and Preston-Carling multi-use pathway.

“The CPR/O-Train bridge itself, we would like to have that begin in late 2016, with major construction beginning in 2017,” said Rowat. “We still have approvals to go through to make that happen.”

Information boards at the open house showed the many options the MTO considered in coming up with a preferred plan for the O-Train bridge. The most advantageous option would be to create new backfilled abutments on either side of the tracks, with a single, shorter span that could be slid into place.

The removal of 47 Young Street would be required to facilitate the construction of the span. The remaining area underneath the new span would be able to accommodate twin O-Train tracks, as well as the existing multi-use pathway.

Peter Eady, vice-president of the Civic Hospital Neighbourhood Association, said he’d like to see a final design that preserved a narrow corridor of land on the west side of the O-Train tracks, opposite the multi-use pathway. The secondary plan for the area has a west side corridor drawn into it, he said.

“Doing it this way precludes it,” he said, adding, “I’d like to know the cost (of keeping it in the plan). Because if the difference is negligible, the community would like to see it preserved.”

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper, whose ward terminates at the O-Train tracks, said the construction of the new bridge over that corridor would likely take two construction seasons, and that he would explore whether the corridor could be kept in place on the west side of the tracks.

“We don’t want to eliminate the potential for a western MUP that could extend from Carling Avenue to Somerset Street,” said Leiper.

Comments on the study and its recommendations are being accepted by the MTO until March 13. Information on the study can be found – and comments submitted – at queenswaymidtownbridges.com.

http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-...bridge-replacements-could-start-in-2018/
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2015, 1:36 PM
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Anybody know what construction is going on this summer at the Pinecrest EB on-ramp to the 417 ??

Cones just went up and speed limit reduced... but area seems is in fine shape overall. Something to do with transitway perhaps?
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2015, 2:07 PM
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Some sort of reconfiguration of the Transitway ramps. Heard about it a ways back.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2015, 2:29 PM
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Anybody know what construction is going on this summer at the Pinecrest EB on-ramp to the 417 ??

Cones just went up and speed limit reduced... but area seems is in fine shape overall. Something to do with transitway perhaps?
Likely the project described on Coun. Hubley's website: http://councillorallanhubley.ca/?page_id=2055

The ramps are being re-configured so that eastbound buses don't need to merge into traffic. Should result in some minor travel time improvements for buses from Kanata in the morning peak.
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Well that certainly looks like it... thanks guys !
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