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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 8:48 PM
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Does anyone recall during the boom there was talk of Centerpoint being redeveloped? I know that things like the theater, the former Islands and El Hefe technically have been "Redeveloped" but this seemed to imply something bigger. I thought maybe they had considered adding tower.

I know that Parsons owns this property as well as the University and Rural property (name escaping me). As of now he doesn't seem to interested in complete redevelopments, but perhaps down the road...
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 8:49 PM
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Thanks for the information! Man, that first version would have looked great there as the south entrance to Mill. What a shame. If that was built, plus USA place as was originally planned, that would be quite the "big city" corner.
It would've also been immediately adjacent to the M7 project that ran from Mill to Forest along 7th Street, which was another great proposal.

A lot of what was proposed back then was truly pie-in-the-sky, but it would be great to see some more adventurous proposals - especially ones for condos, as the hotel and apartment market must be near saturation by now?
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 8:57 PM
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So I went back and found TempeSilverFox's post on the proposed development. I think this is the same site as both University Square and the DRC sign I posted the other day.

The site that JJS found (Tempe 7th Street) is west of this site, between Myrtle and Mill. Tempe 7th Street would either have been adjacent to, or a part of, the M7 site location (which would have been Mill to Myrtle, University to 7th, directly west of the University Square site as JJS just mentioned).

So we have:
1) University Square/DevilsRider DRC sign/TempeSilverFox renderings
2) Tempe 7th Street / M7
3) TrendEx DRC sign I saw but don't have a pic of yet (I imagine this is the same site azsunsurfer mentioned a few posts ago, but it could be a different one).

What a confusing couple of days! Haha

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Good morning!
2. There is a project that we will all LOVE in the works for 7th street- across from House of Tricks. The rendering she showed us appears to be somewhat similar to that M7 project we saw ages ago. It includes at least one or two tall towers (more than 10 for sure) that would have apartments, a hotel and conference space. It would extend all the way from 7th Street to University - so YAY! She did not have a timeline- just that it is in the works- and hopefully we will hear more soon. She said it is going to be handled by the same group that created this project "The Nic on Fifth" in Minneapolis. See pictures of Nic on Fifth renderings below- and Google "Nic on Fifth" for more info:



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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 8:58 PM
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Yes, I remember talk of an addition above the theatre building, but I don't remember what form (tower, midrise, lowrise, residential, office, etc). Either way, I don't think I've seen anything about that in quite awhile.

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Does anyone recall during the boom there was talk of Centerpoint being redeveloped? I know that things like the theater, the former Islands and El Hefe technically have been "Redeveloped" but this seemed to imply something bigger. I thought maybe they had considered adding tower.

I know that Parsons owns this property as well as the University and Rural property (name escaping me). As of now he doesn't seem to interested in complete redevelopments, but perhaps down the road...
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 10:41 PM
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DMB originally planned to demolish the theater and replace it with a hotel (tower) and redevelop the retail along Mill to include lofts above. They were the owners prior to Parsons but they completely way over-leveraged with their risky urban endeavors (see One Scottsdale) and have now gone back to their original business model of single family master-planned communities.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 10:51 PM
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Devils - you were right; the parcel I found for West 7th Street is indeed a different property owner. They said they don't have plans/renderings yet, so this is definitely very preliminary. But, it would be great to see a cluster of high rises around University/7th.

As for Centerpoint, yes - during the boom, there were major plans for renovations, which led to what ultimately became a ghost town as they let all their tenant's leases expire in anticipation of construction. The plans called for ~7 story condos over retail replacing the entire block between 7th and 6th. I think that would've looked really spectacular; living units over retail lining a major shopping boulevard just looks so cosmopolitan.

The other part of the redevelopment was the theater; it was to be knocked down for a 200' hotel. I actually really liked the design of the tower, though I'm glad AMC has opened in the abandoned theater.

Of course, DMB sold off Centerpoint a few years back, so none of this is at all in the realm of possibility.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 10:58 PM
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Devils - you were right; the parcel I found for West 7th Street is indeed a different property owner. They said they don't have plans/renderings yet, so this is definitely very preliminary. But, it would be great to see a cluster of high rises around University/7th.

As for Centerpoint, yes - during the boom, there were major plans for renovations, which led to what ultimately became a ghost town as they let all their tenant's leases expire in anticipation of construction. The plans called for ~7 story condos over retail replacing the entire block between 7th and 6th. I think that would've looked really spectacular; living units over retail lining a major shopping boulevard just looks so cosmopolitan.

The other part of the redevelopment was the theater; it was to be knocked down for a 200' hotel. I actually really liked the design of the tower, though I'm glad AMC has opened in the abandoned theater.

Of course, DMB sold off Centerpoint a few years back, so none of this is at all in the realm of possibility.
Wow, this is too bad. That sounds really awesome. I wouldn't want a super block, but a series of buildings, with the retail still having personality would've been amazing.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 2:24 AM
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Does anyone have any idea what's being done at the SE corner of 55th St & Broadway by the San Portella apartments? They cleared the lot last week and now a construction fence has gone up. I work nearby in Fountainhead, but haven't heard or seen anything about this parcel.
So to answer my own question, the link below shows that it will be called the "Shops at Fountainhead" and will front Broadway with parking in the rear. Kind of similar to the SE corner of 7th Ave & McDowell in Phoenix, although I think this will have more parking. At least it's developing a vacant lot which probably wouldn't realistically get used for anything other than this. The document is from last July, but since construction has started, I'll assume it was approved.

http://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=26190
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 2:58 AM
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Also reminds me somewhat of the center by Rural/202 on the north side of the lake, with the Yogurtland, Starbucks, etc. I like it!

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So to answer my own question, the link below shows that it will be called the "Shops at Fountainhead" and will front Broadway with parking in the rear. Kind of similar to the SE corner of 7th Ave & McDowell in Phoenix, although I think this will have more parking. At least it's developing a vacant lot which probably wouldn't realistically get used for anything other than this. The document is from last July, but since construction has started, I'll assume it was approved.

http://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=26190
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 3:09 AM
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Also reminds me somewhat of the center by Rural/202 on the north side of the lake, with the Yogurtland, Starbucks, etc. I like it!
That's probably a better comparison since 7th & McDowell used an existing building and this is new construction.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 4:39 AM
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Thanks for digging this up, by the way. I didn't notice the first time I looked, but it appears to have a direct sidewalk connection (with a gate) into the gated apartment complex next door. It's a nice little touch that improves connectivity and access quite a bit for those walking or biking from the apartment complex (not only to the commercial businesses, but also to the bus stop right there and the nearby intersection. Should also get good business from Fountainhead employees (About 1/2 mile away).

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That's probably a better comparison since 7th & McDowell used an existing building and this is new construction.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 6:45 PM
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Does anyone recall during the boom there was talk of Centerpoint being redeveloped? I know that things like the theater, the former Islands and El Hefe technically have been "Redeveloped" but this seemed to imply something bigger. I thought maybe they had considered adding tower.

I know that Parsons owns this property as well as the University and Rural property (name escaping me). As of now he doesn't seem to interested in complete redevelopments, but perhaps down the road...


Renaissance ClubSport?
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 6:52 PM
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So to answer my own question, the link below shows that it will be called the "Shops at Fountainhead" and will front Broadway with parking in the rear. Kind of similar to the SE corner of 7th Ave & McDowell in Phoenix, although I think this will have more parking. At least it's developing a vacant lot which probably wouldn't realistically get used for anything other than this. The document is from last July, but since construction has started, I'll assume it was approved.

http://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=26190
Awesome I Always wondered why that lot wasn't a gas station or something seems like a perfect location.

I actually just moved to Fountainhead for work about 3 weeks ago. There is no convenient food options for all these offices and soon to be Residents so this should do really well.

Unfortunately I probably wont be in this location long enough to see this finished.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 7:07 PM
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Hey so on that website there is something called "Scottsdale Hotel" for Starwood. Is that an actual development or just a concept? it looks like an infill project..
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 7:11 PM
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Does anyone recall during the boom there was talk of Centerpoint being redeveloped? I know that things like the theater, the former Islands and El Hefe technically have been "Redeveloped" but this seemed to imply something bigger. I thought maybe they had considered adding tower.

I know that Parsons owns this property as well as the University and Rural property (name escaping me). As of now he doesn't seem to interested in complete redevelopments, but perhaps down the road...
The original center point rendering was 4 towers (the other two being where Hannover is now)

At least I could of sworn I saw that in a rendering or site plan... maybe not it was like 8 years ago
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 8:10 PM
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The original center point rendering was 4 towers (the other two being where Hannover is now)

At least I could of sworn I saw that in a rendering or site plan... maybe not it was like 8 years ago
Yes, it was going to be four towers but then got scaled back to two, both of which sat unoccupied and partially complete for a while due to the real estate crash.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 8:11 PM
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The original center point rendering was 4 towers (the other two being where Hannover is now)

At least I could of sworn I saw that in a rendering or site plan... maybe not it was like 8 years ago
It's actually confusing because the complex called Centerpoint is not where West Sixth is. But the original West Sixth was to be called Centerpoint and include 4 towers.

The project which I am referring to is the "actual" Centerpoint in the rendering that MegaBass posted.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 8:14 PM
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It's actually confusing because the complex called Centerpoint is not where West Sixth is. But the original West Sixth was to be called Centerpoint and include 4 towers.

The project which I am referring to is the "actual" Centerpoint in the rendering that MegaBass posted.
Good point. My post above is about what is now known as West Sixth.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 10:09 PM
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This.


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Revamped Centerpoint takes shape in Tempe
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/news/article_edec006c-285f-55dd-9782-21f56d20d25d.html


Tempe Centerpoint faces new future with new owner
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=96153&page=289
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2015, 12:48 AM
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On to relevant news, 15 townhomes are coming to 233 Roosevelt, right in the middle of all the development on/around Farmer.
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