Calgary Public Transit II - Page 477

UofC.engineer · #**9521** Posted **Mar 23, 2015, 8:56 PM**

The city has uploaded maps showing possible route realignments. I for one am not in favour from deviating from the original alignment.

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...Green-line/11st-alternate-alignments.pdf

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...en-line/ogdenrd-alternate-alignments.pdf

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...ine/quarry-park-alternate-alignments.pdf

ByeByeBaby · #**9522** Posted **Mar 23, 2015, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by UofC.engineer

The city has uploaded maps showing possible route realignments. I for one am not in favour from deviating from the original alignment.

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...Green-line/11st-alternate-alignments.pdf

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...en-line/ogdenrd-alternate-alignments.pdf

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...ine/quarry-park-alternate-alignments.pdf

I think it depends on a case-by-case basis. If there are truly no property impacts as shown in the 3rd diagram, I think it makes a lot of sense to move the transitway 200m closer to Quarry Park. On the other hand, knocking over 50 houses in Ogden to move the transitway 50m closer to Ogden Road doesn't make much sense at all.

It makes no sense to do anything drastic along 11th St SE in Ramsay; it's not a particularly busy road, and one benefit of a busway is you don't need every inch to be separated to get benefits. The option that isn't on the table but makes the most sense is to connect the transitway onto 11 St, with a signal so that buses crossing traffic (i.e. heading northbound into downtown) get priority, and wait until hopefully CP wants to talk again.

It seems really silly to knock down heritage buildings just for a low-ridership transit line built primarily for political appearances. (I note that whenever the talk about the SETWAY in Ramsay talks about affected businesses, it's always the long-established Shamrock or those in heritage buildings, but no one seems to mention the sad effects on the Lilydale poultry plant.)

MasterG · #**9523** Posted **Mar 23, 2015, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by ByeByeBaby

It makes no sense to do anything drastic along 11th St SE in Ramsay; it's not a particularly busy road, and one benefit of a busway is you don't need every inch to be separated to get benefits. The option that isn't on the table but makes the most sense is to connect the transitway onto 11 St, with a signal so that buses crossing traffic (i.e. heading northbound into downtown) get priority, and wait until hopefully CP wants to talk again.

+1. What's the point of even bothering adding a transit link down 11th Street if you destroy everything on one side? Just take two lanes of the current road for bus-priority for this stretch of 11th Street and be done with it.

Full Mountain · #**9524** Posted **Mar 23, 2015, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by UofC.engineer

The city has uploaded maps showing possible route realignments. I for one am not in favour from deviating from the original alignment.

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...Green-line/11st-alternate-alignments.pdf

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...en-line/ogdenrd-alternate-alignments.pdf

http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/TI/...ine/quarry-park-alternate-alignments.pdf

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Originally Posted by ByeByeBaby

I think it depends on a case-by-case basis. If there are truly no property impacts as shown in the 3rd diagram, I think it makes a lot of sense to move the transitway 200m closer to Quarry Park. On the other hand, knocking over 50 houses in Ogden to move the transitway 50m closer to Ogden Road doesn't make much sense at all.

It makes no sense to do anything drastic along 11th St SE in Ramsay; it's not a particularly busy road, and one benefit of a busway is you don't need every inch to be separated to get benefits. The option that isn't on the table but makes the most sense is to connect the transitway onto 11 St, with a signal so that buses crossing traffic (i.e. heading northbound into downtown) get priority, and wait until hopefully CP wants to talk again.

It seems really silly to knock down heritage buildings just for a low-ridership transit line built primarily for political appearances. (I note that whenever the talk about the SETWAY in Ramsay talks about affected businesses, it's always the long-established Shamrock or those in heritage buildings, but no one seems to mention the sad effects on the Lilydale poultry plant.)

Re: all these alternatives - Why is there not an in-street with dedicated space option presented? Has CT lost all imagination?

Are in-street lanes really going to be that big of a political hot potato? These aren't high volume roads and for the most part they are 4 lanes when they could be 2.

Fuzz · #**9525** Posted **Mar 23, 2015, 11:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Full Mountain

Re: all these alternatives - Why is there not an in-street with dedicated space option presented? Has CT lost all imagination?

Are in-street lanes really going to be that big of a political hot potato? These aren't high volume roads and for the most part they are 4 lanes when they could be 2.

In-street lanes are being saved for the north section. Can't blow all the political capital on the south part!

ByeByeBaby · #**9526** Posted **Mar 24, 2015, 3:28 PM**

The survey on Green Line SE alignment options (the ones shown in the PDFs) is still open until April 1 at: https://greenline.metroquest.ca/

UofC.engineer · #**9527** Posted **Mar 26, 2015, 3:02 PM**

Calgary Transit wants to introduce late night bus service, or as Torontonians call it, "The Vomit Comets".

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...s-per-hour-to-made-sense-calgary-transit

joe498 · #**9528** Posted **Apr 8, 2015, 5:26 PM**

Calgary's fare cheat rates edge up, two years after fine hike

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...-rates-edge-up-two-years-after-fine-hike

Turnstiles anyone?

flipstah · #**9529** Posted **Apr 8, 2015, 5:34 PM**

People will always find a way to cheat the system. They should just work on improving service, such as making those LED signs accurately dictate times and lines.

Full Mountain · #**9530** Posted **Apr 8, 2015, 5:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by joe498

Calgary's fare cheat rates edge up, two years after fine hike

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...-rates-edge-up-two-years-after-fine-hike

Turnstiles anyone?

I wonder how much of this is because there was greater enforcement, i.e. higher reported evasion rather than higher actual evasion.

Fuzz · #**9531** Posted **Apr 8, 2015, 6:26 PM**

I bet zone based fares would encourage better payment. I wouldn't be at all surprised if many of the people not buying tickets are riding in to downtown form Sunnyside, Sunalta or Bridgeland and find the fare ridiculous, which it is. Or taking it one stop to the University or SAIT. Those trips should be $1, I'm sure there would be better compliance. I'm still amazed that someone can ride 20km for the same price as someone going 1km.

googspecial · #**9532** Posted **Apr 8, 2015, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

... I wouldn't be at all surprised if many of the people not buying tickets are riding in to downtown form Sunnyside, Sunalta or Bridgeland and find the fare ridiculous, which it is...

Guilty.

I do agree we need a better zone system.

MalcolmTucker · #**9533** Posted **Apr 8, 2015, 7:23 PM**

The problem with the fare zone issue is that from a cost to the system perspective in rush, any trip that crosses the CPR mainline or the Bow costs the same regardless of distance.

J-D · #**9534** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 2:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

The problem with the fare zone issue is that from a cost to the system perspective in rush, any trip that crosses the CPR mainline or the Bow costs the same regardless of distance.

That and they'd have to implement the Connect Card before 2050 to make it happen

Six years to have an operating busway seems pretty absurd though.

Fuzz · #**9535** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 1:54 PM**

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/1334754...connect-card-could-turn-up-in-fall-2015/

Connect card system still MIA. Can't we just cancel this contract and buy a system for a city that has a working one?

MasterG · #**9536** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 5:44 PM**

New Calgary Transit real-time app is out. It's pretty good.

lubicon · #**9537** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 6:00 PM**

Still useless to me until they put it on a BB platform too. But I suppose I am in the miniscule minority that have that problem.

MalcolmTucker · #**9538** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by lubicon

Still useless to me until they put it on a BB platform too. But I suppose I am in the miniscule minority that have that problem.

Amazon App store?

lubicon · #**9539** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Amazon App store?

Not there yet, hopefully they will pick it up.

VIce · #**9540** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 8:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by lubicon

Still useless to me until they put it on a BB platform too. But I suppose I am in the miniscule minority that have that problem.

This is actually the first app I have downloaded from Google Play that I couldn't patch to my Z10. But as another BB user, I definitely, definitely recommend getting Snap and a GMaps patcher. You can use more or less anything thats available on the Google Play store.