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Old Posted Apr 2, 2015, 11:53 PM
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Influential designer Paul T Frankl, moved to LA in '34 and maintained one or more studios in BH. He is known for many innovative designs including his deco skyscraper furniture and and appliances.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_T._Frankl



Only CD listing for Paul T Frankl is (1960) 306 N Doheny Drive. CRestview 6-2073. The structures across from Ralphs (formerly Hughes Mkt at Beverly Blvd/Doheny Dr) appear to be decidedly residential, even if they housed businesses. They do not look anything like the Beverly Hills-labeled images below. Frankl also had a gallery/offices on Rodeo Drive, which do not appear listed, unless they went by another name. I would assume the images below are from that Rodeo location, but perhaps someone can confirm this. There is a '36 listing for Frankl Galleries at 3281 Wilshire, but it is not clear that this has any affiliation with the designer.

Some Frankl designs.
http://www.decodence.com/Shop/Clocks...ver_frankl.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Z-Eh5rEmAr...9Pw/s400/1.jpg
http://www.decodence.com/Shop/Clocks...een_frankl.jpg




Huntington has quite a number of images associated with Frankl. Most of them are structures and interior pieces.http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/search...l/order/nosort

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Exterior and interior views of Frankl's Asian–themed office, featuring doorways and doors, windows, storage, and furniture. Also includes one image of unidentified bungalows

1946
http://www.ad-magazin.de/wp-content/...1/frankl_2.jpg


1946

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6257/rec/16



1946


http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6257/rec/16



??????? (1946 - Beverly Hills??????)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6257/rec/16


1946 - Beverly Hills


http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6257/rec/16



1945 - Frankl's Palos Verde Home

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6226/rec/12




http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6226/rec/12


Frankl designed interior (and possibly exterior) of Dr. Schlumberger's office (9622 Brighton Way)


http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6217/rec/11

Interior images of Drs offices: http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6217/rec/11
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Thanks t2. Is the "old gate" from the original location?
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I found this interesting 1954 photograph along with the Hollywood Fwy. / Alvarado bus stop photo that we recently discussed.

"Metro Olive St. Bus Depot"



https://www.flickr.com/photos/30993133@N04/

Is that car turning into underground parking?

and does anyone recognize that apartment building from the back?

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This is the site of the old Olive Street School (later the Health Department) between the Trenton on the left and the Fremont which has been torn down but would have been on that upper lot to the right. Here's a shot which shows your apartment building (the Brown Apartments) which would have been up on Grand Avenue across from the Grenada...

Looking west from Hill Street as the subway tunnel and building goes in, 1925

Great image of the construction site as the PE Hill Street Station is converted to a massive building and entrance to a subway tunnel which will cross Bunker Hill to Toluca Yard (1st/2nd/Beverly Boulevard/Glendale Boulevard). Here they have breached the Olive Street roadbed and spanned the vacated Olive Street School/Health Department property. The Trenton (on the left) and the Fremont (on the right) look on nervously. The Leonard Rose Mansion at 4th Street and Grand Avenue can be seen behind the Fremont. Nice image of actual steam shovels at work.

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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 1:56 AM
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brickyards/peat fires/cemeteries

Thank you Flyingwedge (and MichaelRyerson) for the panoramas, showing brickyards among much else:

More info on the City Brick Company and Los Angeles Pressed Brick Company if anyone's interested.

A few more Peat Fire Pix to follow up on fhammon's interesting post.

I apologize e_r, I fell for a mislabeled photo. That gate is at another cemetery with the same name up north. The Home of Peace community did spend 8 years carefully recreating all the graves and memorials from the Chavez Ravine site at the new location, which is much better than what happened to other early LA Cemeteries.

Home of Peace has a great roster of residents.
Info from Backyard Tourist LA here and here
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"By 1855 the [Hebrew] Benevolent Society had dedicated a Jewish cemetery in Chavez Ravine, just south of the modern Dodgers Stadium. The burial ground was replaced in 1902 by Congregation B'nai B'rith's Home of Peace Cemetery on Whittier Boulevard in East Los Angeles."

http://home.earthlink.net/~nholdened...os_angeles.htm

info: http://www.backyardtouristsla.com/20...d-stooges.html

Home of Peace Cemetery, lower right
w/ Calvary Cemetery adjacent
Evergreen Cemetery, upper left

google maps
This discussion triggered my memory of a Times article on a neglected Jewish cemetery in East L.A. I think this is the one:

http://www.latimes.com/la-me-jewish-...htmlstory.html
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 3:09 AM
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Thanks for the link Mstimc. -That's a very interesting article.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 3:51 AM
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Cemeteries

Thank you for the info Mstimc. I'd been looking for more on the three smaller cemeteries, Agurdath Achim (1919), Mount Zion (1916) & Beth Israel (1907), tucked into a corner of Home of Peace:


backyardtouristLA.com

Mount Zion looked OK in this view:

google maps photos

Actually, from the street, it's a bit hard to tell which is which:

gsv

PS According to Mount Zion's wiki and facebook pages there has been "minimal" restoration

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[QUOTE=Tourmaline;6954297]Curious structure.

I would assume those buckets served to house flood lights. (Or could they have functioned as signal lights?) (Or they could contained water to douse unsuspecting passersby on April 1? ) I also wonder about those small star adornments reminiscent of more modern seismic retrofitting. Spacing suggests that they are not purely cosmetic. Could they be part of the structure's metal framework?



http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/13183/rec/17



The "buckets" on the wall are tile tubes for the electrical wiring to pass into the building. The wood beam attached to the building has insulators that the wire connect to and then enter the building
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 2:13 PM
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Finally an explanation.....thank you latoetagger!
...very interesting avatar name. Do you work in the L.A. morgue?
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And welcome to the thread dodgerblue62. -glad you found us.

I really like that map of Home of Peace Memorial Park tovanger2.
I noticed that the grave of silent film star Carmel Myers is listed.

The beautiful Ms. Myers

https://www.tumblr.com/search/carmel%20myers

Her father was an Australian rabbi....and her mother was Austrian. (she is buried near her parents)

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Thanks t2. Is the "old gate" from the original location?*

*(t2 deleted the photograph I was asking about) It was a pretty cool looking brick gate.
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I found this interesting 1954 photograph along with the Hollywood Fwy. / Alvarado bus stop photo that we recently discussed.

"Metro Olive St. Bus Depot"



https://www.flickr.com/photos/30993133@N04/

Is that car turning into underground parking?

and does anyone recognize that apartment building from the back?

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While I don't know which building is in the background, the picture was taken from the south side of Olive facing north, The retaining wall on the right was the wall from the old Fremont Hotel, at Olive and 4th, a remnant of which still stands. The entrance to the parking area is also still there although there is no street access currently. The part where the buses are is now a parking lot, accessible from the upper edge, near the old retaining wall.

The site "On Bunker Hill" has a description of the picture with an explanation that the edge of the building at left is the Hotel Trenton. There is a map on the site as well which notes that the building in the background is an "Apartment" and gives the address as 414-416 S. Grand but does not give a name.

The whole area has been "eaten" by the phone company
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Very interesting 1888 panorama images, Flyingwedge. Thanks for posting them.

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I was wondering whatever happened to the Jewish Cemetery.

Here it is listed as "Hebrew Cemetery" on a map dated 1897.

https://www.pinterest.com/bigmapblog/

By 1913 it's missing.

http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...map-collection

I know we've discussed the removal of bodies from the larger Calvary Cemetery (to the east of the Jewish Cemetery), but I don't recall discussing the Jewish Cemetery.
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"By 1855 the [Hebrew] Benevolent Society had dedicated a Jewish cemetery in Chavez Ravine, just south of the modern Dodgers Stadium. The burial ground was replaced in 1902 by Congregation B'nai B'rith's Home of Peace Cemetery on Whittier Boulevard in East Los Angeles."
I think tovangar2 has pretty much answered the question, but I just thought I'd mention that the Hebrew Cemetery still appears on the 1921 Baist map.


www.historicmapworks.com

For reference, here's what's there today.


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Very interesting HossC. What was the City Detention Hospital next to the Hebrew Cemetery? (for criminals?)

I just noticed the quarantine station just below the grounds of the Hebrew Cemetery. (was this in response to the Plague epidemic?

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This is the site of the old Olive Street School between the Trenton on the left and the Fremont which has been torn down but would have been on that upper lot to the right. Here's a shot which shows your apartment building (the Brown Apartments) which would have been up on Grand Avenue across from the Grenada...

Looking west from Hill Street as the subway tunnel and building goes in, 1925
Wow MichaelRyerson, this is an amazing photograph!

As a reminder of what the Olive Street School looked like, this photograph was taken near the end of construction.
(notice the workman's ladder laying across the front steps)


http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...-%201925).html

And thanks for the additional information oldstuff.

former site of the Olive Street School

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I've been trying to find out more information on this rather foreboding building at 2845 W. 7th Street, just west of Hoover.


GSV / 2007

Today it is the Central American Resource Center, but what was it originally?


google_earth

*I used the 2007 street view because I thought it looked dramatic.
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What was the City Detention Hospital next to the Hebrew Cemetery? (for criminals?)

I just noticed the quarantine station just below the grounds of the Hebrew Cemetery. (was this in response to the Plague epidemic?
I found this article in the January 26, 1899 edition of the Los Angeles Herald. It looks like "city detention hospital" was the new name for the "pesthouse", where they treated "various types of contagious disease — smallpox, diphtheria, scarlet fever, typhoid, etc.". Interestingly, the site near Chavez Ravine was still marked "Pest House" on the 1910 Baist map (the name had changed by 1914).


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Old Hebrew Cemetery/Naval and Marine Corps Reserve Center

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For reference, here's what's there today.


Google Maps
Thanks HossC. I don't remember ever being aware of that building before:





pix above: http://livingnewdeal.org/projects/lo...os-angeles-ca/

More info: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-...-3747_1_armory

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I've been trying to find out more information on this rather foreboding looking building at 2845 W. 7th Street, just west of Hoover.

Today it is the Central American Resource Center, but what was it originally?
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All I found out e_r is the building went up in 1930 and the current tenants do laudable work.

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I've been trying to find out more information on this rather foreboding looking building at 2845 W. 7th Street, just west of Hoover.


GSV / 2007

Today it is the Central American Resource Center, but what was it originally?
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All I found out e_r is the building went up in 1930 and the current tenants do laudable work.
The City Directories list The Meyberg Company at 2845 W 7th Street between 1932 and 1939. They appear under the "Lighting Equipment-Manufacturers" heading.

By 1942, the listings change to the Marjorie Montgomery Co (W J Schminke Lola Croonkite), manufacturers of "Billie Marlo", "Marjorie Montgomery", "Call Cruise" dresses, sportswear and beachwear. The Aviation Training Institute also seems to be at the same address.

The 1956 and 1960 CDs list W J Schminke & Associates, dresses at 2845 W 7th Street.


It looks like The Meyberg Company was previously at 631-635 S Grand Avenue. This headed letter dates from 1914.


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The City Directories list The Meyberg Company at 2845 W 7th Street between 1932 and 1939. By 1942, the listings change to the Marjorie Montgomery Co (W J Schminke Lola Croonkite), manufacturers of "Billie Marlo", "Marjorie Montgomery", "Call Cruise" dresses, sportswear and beachwear.

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Thanks for digging up information on 2845 W. 7th Street HossC and t2.
Do you agree the architecture is somewhat odd? Certain parts of it are almost bunker-esque...well, except for the windows of course.
That's why I wondered about it's history.


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below: 'mystery' location. ( I just found this last night on eBay)

So what hotel also had steam baths?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item5b0ef93ad1

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And here's another.

At first, I thought this was the same building as in the previous post.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item58c1846ac9

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Last but not least, here's 'mystery' location #3 for the day.


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