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Old Posted Oct 17, 2014, 4:09 PM
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Rather cynical way to look at things...

Vancouver would be well-served to focus more on Asian art, and it's more reflective of its place in the world, it's culture and heritage. Much more so than 'old European paintings'.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2014, 5:37 PM
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Rather cynical way to look at things...

Vancouver would be well-served to focus more on Asian art, and it's more reflective of its place in the world, it's culture and heritage. Much more so than 'old European paintings'.
Just a realist. Show me the money.

Try to mesh it with this:

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Added Vancouver Art Gallery director Kathleen Bartels: “At VAG, we don’t segregate artists by nationality or ethnicity. So, we don’t have a First Nations gallery or an Asian gallery. We think it’s very important that those artists are shown together.”
http://www.biv.com/article/2013/3/art-gallery-flush-with-cash-in-lead-up-to-relocati/
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2014, 5:45 PM
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More cynics

And just love cultural elites who are against "pipelines" eating up money from the Chinese national oil company.

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Forbidden City announcement as much about business as art and culture

Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson illustrated the growing ties between Vancouver and China by speaking Mandarin at Monday’s news conference announcing a Chinese art show that will be shown here next year.

The Forbidden City: Inside the Court of China’s Emperors will be exhibited at the Vancouver Art Gallery starting next October.

Robertson, who has been tutored in the Chinese language, welcomed those in attendance and highlighted the close connections between Vancouver and China.

“The Forbidden City exhibit is a great example of our friendship,” he said in Mandarin.

As the mayor spoke, Fang Zhi smiled and nodded in approval. He’s the executive vice-president of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation, the Chinese-government-owned company that recently bought Calgary-based Nexen Energy in a $15-billion takeover.

CNOOC is contributing $1 million to bring the exhibition to Vancouver. The oil giant has made its presence known in the cultural sector nationally, including with a $1.5-million donation to the Calgary public library.

While most news conferences announcing new gallery exhibitions feature artists and curators, Monday’s event had a business flavour and was attended by a high-powered roster of politicians, business leaders and philanthropists.

“We are bound by our ties to China, by our deep friendship with China, by our history which has been made so much by Chinese immigrants here in British Columbia and Vancouver,” Premier Christy Clark said at the news conference.

Clark noted that she had already visited the Forbidden City once and will return to the palace later this year as part of a trade delegation to Asia.

Robertson is also China-bound — he told the crowd that he will be part of the largest ever Vancouver-led business and cultural mission to China in early November. The delegation will visit Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Hong Kong, and include executives from more than 18 companies, along with 130 Chinese-Canadian community leaders who represent Vancouver’s sister-city ties with Guangzhou.

Contributing $500,000 to the Forbidden City exhibition at the VAG is philanthropy heavy-hitter Robert H.N. Ho, founder of the Hong Kong-based Robert H.N. Ho Family Foundation, who also attended the news conference. In 2009, Ho’s foundations gave $15 million to the Robert H.N. Ho Research Centre on prostate and ovarian cancer at the Vancouver General Hospital. In 2011, his family foundation gave another $10 million to Lions Gate Hospital in North Vancouver toward building a mental health and addiction centre scheduled to open next year.

And, perhaps most significantly for the Vancouver Art Gallery — which is looking to raise millions for a new art gallery — Ho’s family foundation gave nearly $10 million to the Guggenheim Museum in New York to encourage a global understanding of Chinese art.

Ho’s family foundation has been actively supporting initiatives about The Forbidden City as the best preserved and largest imperial palace in the world. They include funding two exhibitions and a publication series of nine books and maps, along with a documentary film and TV documentary series.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2014, 7:45 PM
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It should be torn down and a 1000-foot reflective black glass tower should be built in it's place.
Hey there's an idea !!!!!!!!!!
Or maybe the largest McDonald's in Canada !!!
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2014, 10:53 PM
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Hey there's an idea !!!!!!!!!!
Or maybe the largest McDonald's in Canada !!!
Um, black glass tower, yes....McDonalds, no
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2014, 12:41 AM
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It should be torn down and a 1000-foot reflective black glass tower should be built in it's place.
Only if it showcases the variety of seafoam green glass as the new "Vancouver Special" for the 21st Century.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 4:51 PM
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New article in BIV paints a gloomy picture of the new gallery ever going ahead. With Audain off the board and Rennie no fan of Bartels, the heavy hitters are out:

A city-owned parking lot known as Larwill Park in downtown Vancouver—the proposed home for one of the most ambitious cultural building projects B.C. has ever seen—is likely to house cars, not Carrs, for a good while longer.

Just one month before a council-imposed deadline to raise $150 million in government funding for the project’s estimated $350 million in construction costs, the Vancouver Art Gallery’s plan for a landmark campus kitty corner to BC Place appears fated to be postponed, perhaps indefinitely. By most accounts, the gallery is nowhere near to meeting that fundraising deadline, and it’s likely to miss another city condition for the nominal 99-year lease on the site: to raise 75 per cent of its construction costs by December...


Read more at: http://www.bcbusiness.ca/tourism-culture...vancouver-art-gallery-would-like-to-talk
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2015, 10:12 PM
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Article from today's Sun.

Design to be released at the end of May.

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainmen...d+meet+city+deadline/10920206/story.html
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2015, 8:45 PM
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2015, 8:47 PM
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Article from today's Sun.

Design to be released at the end of May.

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainmen...d+meet+city+deadline/10920206/story.html
Wow I didn't know the Sun was behind a paywall now. I guess this is the last gasp.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2015, 9:31 PM
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2015, 11:23 PM
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I don't doubt that the existing art gallery can work, but it's also not going anywhere. If we build a new art gallery at Larwill Park we have the opportunity to have two iconic buildings, not just one. Move the Museum of Vancouver into the current VAG and build the VAG a new home.

What else would be built on the larwill park site if not the new VAG? My guess is more condos/mixed use. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I'd love to see a striking new architecturally daring building there.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2015, 7:20 PM
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I don't doubt that the existing art gallery can work, but it's also not going anywhere. If we build a new art gallery at Larwill Park we have the opportunity to have two iconic buildings, not just one. Move the Museum of Vancouver into the current VAG and build the VAG a new home.

What else would be built on the larwill park site if not the new VAG? My guess is more condos/mixed use. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I'd love to see a striking new architecturally daring building there.
My thoughts exactly. When travelling to a new place going to the city museum is usually an interesting activity. In most places it's an easily accessible museum. Not so in Vancouver. We have the potential to change that though.

It's a shame penny pinching is in vogue with politicians right now and no one has the vision to promote something new. The Conservatives are a bit excused as they don't have any major MP from Vancouver that can advocate for this, but MLAs Anton and Sullivan (ex Vancouver Mayor!) haven't been able change the provincial government's mind on funding? Quite disappointing...
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2015, 8:35 PM
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My thoughts exactly. When travelling to a new place going to the city museum is usually an interesting activity. In most places it's an easily accessible museum. Not so in Vancouver. We have the potential to change that though.

It's a shame penny pinching is in vogue with politicians right now and no one has the vision to promote something new. The Conservatives are a bit excused as they don't have any major MP from Vancouver that can advocate for this, but MLAs Anton and Sullivan (ex Vancouver Mayor!) haven't been able change the provincial government's mind on funding? Quite disappointing...
The MOV and Maritime Museum are nowhere near as "far out" as people paint them to be. LA's museums are scattered far more and even places like Chicago's famous Museum of Science and Industry are farther from the downtown core. NYC's are far apart, it just doesn't seem bad because of the subway. Its not that hard to take bus down Burrard and walk the couple minutes from Cornwall!
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2015, 8:50 PM
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I agree! When there were articles were talking about how the VAG couldn't be relocated to false creek because 'that was too far from downtown' I laughed. I guess the PAVCO / Plaza of Nations lands are now Downtown enough because there is the resort casino going there now!
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2015, 9:59 PM
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So the VAG is arrogant enough to submit a proposal to the City using the entire block (instead of just the part allocated to it) - further delaying the release of the design from May to June.

The view cone reference peaks my interest. I suppose the VAG wanted to derive revenue from a tower?

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But city officials who have seen the VAG’s concept for the site said the gallery produced at least two designs, one that met city objectives and another, a preferred option, that vastly exceeded those objectives, including using land the city had not agreed to provide. The scale of development on that option also intruded into the city’s protected view corridors of the mountain skyline.
http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Mayor+tells+play+rules+with+design/10959613/story.html
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2015, 10:18 PM
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So the VAG is arrogant enough to submit a proposal to the City using the entire block (instead of just the part allocated to it) - further delaying the release of the design from May to June.

The view cone reference peaks my interest. I suppose the VAG wanted to derive revenue from a tower?


http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Mayor+tells+play+rules+with+design/10959613/story.html
tsk tsk tsk...another stumbling block caused by the view cone.
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2015, 10:29 PM
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So the VAG is arrogant enough to submit a proposal to the City using the entire block (instead of just the part allocated to it) - further delaying the release of the design from May to June.

The view cone reference peaks my interest. I suppose the VAG wanted to derive revenue from a tower?


http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Mayor+tells+play+rules+with+design/10959613/story.html
Nothing quite like the entitlement mindset of the art(ist) realm.
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2015, 10:54 PM
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tsk tsk tsk...another stumbling block caused by the view cone.
LOL, keep trying. This project is so far off the rails the viewcones are the least of their troubles. gregor shoudl just grow a pair and put it out of its misery.

PS, don't you think you might be happier in Toronto, Shanghai or some othe drab city with no reason for viewcones? You seem quite obsessed by them.
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2015, 11:04 PM
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I think that this is largely a question that goes beyond the gallery itself, the extra space another building would give, and so on.
In Frances Bula's video, I noticed that the proponents of maintining the existing building were greatly so out of a clebration of the actual, Rattenbury, 18th C designed building, which is really the most architecturally elegant and distinguished building, at least in the CBD and the West Side.
This committee also focussed on how this building is ideally and centrally placed in the very epicentre of downtown. People dance and celebrate there, big rallies are held there.
Might one venture to say that this is sort of the "Trafalgar Square" of Vancouver. The value this aspect of it, and cherish the building itself, which can, with the investment in expanding and modernizing it.
They may have a point. Peter Cardew said, "if this were a vacant lot, this is where the gallery would be." I agree.
Sorry, I know that is totally Politically Incorrect, but, voilà.
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