YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 354

Hourglass · #**7061** Posted **Mar 14, 2015, 7:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Effective 12 December EVA increases YVR-TPE to 5 weekly from 4 weekly. All flights to remain 744s for now.

New flights being added on Sundays.

From airlineroute in twitter:

“@airlineroute: EVA Air adds 5th weekly Taipei - Vancouver service from 12DEC15, 5th weekly Toronto flight to be added from 13DEC15 #RoutesAsia”

BR010 TPE2355 - 1820YVR 744 x24
BR011 YVR0055 - 0535TPE 744 x35

Awesome news. Are they bumping up against the limits set by the existing bilateral or is there room for further growth?

Johnny Aussie · #**7062** Posted **Mar 14, 2015, 7:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

Awesome news. Are they bumping up against the limits set by the existing bilateral or is there room for further growth?

It went from 13 to 17 in early 2014 then increases to 21 in November 2015.

As of December 2015:
CI 7 to YVR
BR 5 to YVR and 5 to YYZ.

So there are still 4 frequencies available after Nov 2015 for Taiwanese carriers.

So who gets them and where do they go? Perhaps BR goes daily to both YVR and YYZ or does CI launch its own flights to YYZ (probably more likely) or increase YVR (unlikely). I could see BR eventually go daily on YVR with 77Ws as the 744s get retired.

Johnny Aussie · #**7063** Posted **Mar 14, 2015, 8:04 AM**

March 15th is the start of Philippine Airlines nonstop flights from YVR-JFK on 343s.

On the same day YVR-MNL bumps up to 11 flights per week. 7 per week on 77Ws (4 originate in YYZ; 3 originate in YVR) and 4 on 343s (originating in JFK)

st7860 · #**7064** Posted **Mar 14, 2015, 2:37 PM**

With all the expansion and stuff its looking like another banner year for YVR!!!

trofirhen · #**7065** Posted **Mar 14, 2015, 4:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

March 15th is the start of Philippine Airlines nonstop flights from YVR-JFK on 343s.

On the same day YVR-MNL bumps up to 11 flights per week. 7 per week on 77Ws (4 originate in YYZ; 3 originate in YVR) and 4 on 343s (originating in JFK)

Cool! The more the merrier!

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Originally Posted by st7860

With all the expansion and stuff its looking like another banner year for YVR!!!

Yup, and don't forget Air France arriving on March 29

Johnny Aussie · #**7066** Posted **Mar 14, 2015, 7:54 PM**

This week's UA tweek has them adding YVR-IAD for the summer season again.

However, they have only loaded Saturday services (320) right now.

Maybe that's it, maybe not... After all it's United.

So that puts UA back up to 17 daily (15 of which are mainline) with 18 on Saturdays.

trofirhen · #**7067** Posted **Mar 16, 2015, 11:40 PM**

... Kunming .... Yunnan province

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/brea...mpaign=the-hub-regional-event-daily-2-EU

Denscity · #**7068** Posted **Mar 17, 2015, 12:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

... Kunming .... Yunnan province

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/brea...mpaign=the-hub-regional-event-daily-2-EU

Wow Kunming has 7.2 million people! Yet another Chinese city flight from Vancouver. YVR definitely is the North American king of Asian flights!

trofirhen · #**7069** Posted **Mar 17, 2015, 12:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Wow Kunming has 7.2 million people! Yet another Chinese city flight from Vancouver. YVR definitely is the North American king of Asian flights!

Yeah! And imagine what might develop when that TWOV centre opens. It may start slow, but I think it'll pick up in time.

Johnny Aussie · #**7070** Posted **Mar 17, 2015, 9:23 AM**

For the peak winter scheds from 21 December - 31 January

Seemed like this was inevitable.

http://airlineroute.net/2015/03/17/nz-yvr-dec15/

Flights still showing as 777-200ER. This route is earmarked for the 787-900 so will see what else develops.

NZ024 AKL2000 - 1215YVR 777 D
NZ023 YVR1830 - 1730+2 AKL 777 D

Note: new flight numbers too... Currently NZ083/NZ084

Lots of capacity between YVR and the South Pacific next winter with Air NZ, Qantas and Air Canada plying the skies down under.

Enjoyed all of our flights on NZ just this last Xmas... Would have booked again for this upcoming Xmas trip but we booked Air China already... new MEL-PEK nonstops makes the trip worthwhile with stopovers each way

trofirhen · #**7071** Posted **Mar 17, 2015, 1:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Wow Kunming has 7.2 million people! Yet another Chinese city flight from Vancouver. YVR definitely is the North American king of Asian flights!

There's still Chongquing (Chunking) to come. It is already connected to San Fran, and is coming to Rome. Seems logical that YVR would get that one, too. Hope so.

Johnny Aussie · #**7072** Posted **Mar 18, 2015, 11:45 PM**

I didn't get too excited about this announcent as it's not a service increase. This would be more exciting if the route was via Hangzhou as rumoured from "that list" published a few weeks ago.

Having a flight originate in another domestic city could be seen as a bit arbitrary.

http://www.biv.com/article/2015/3/vancouver-be-first-north-american-city-direct-flig/

In this article it mentions the connecting time in PVG right now is about three hours but adding the tag will cut this in half. If you look at the schedule the transit time to YVR is 2:15 and on the return is 3:00 anyway. Don't see how that is cut in half.

In the routesonline article the YVR spokesperson harps on about how "the economic impact of these new flights is huge." Sorry I don't think so. These are not new flights. Whether the passengers on these flights originate in PVG, KMG or somewhere else makes no difference. I suppose it might look good listing KMG as a destination from YVR on Wikipedia though.

LeftCoaster · #**7073** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 12:27 AM**

I personally did not get too excited for what was clearly not a service increase, but could this not be seen as a bellweather to test the apatite for a Direct to Kunming? I wonder why else they would make a big song a dance out of what is clearly just a slight reconfig of a domestic Chinese route.

Johnny Aussie · #**7074** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 12:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I personally did not get too excited for what was clearly not a service increase, but could this not be seen as a bellweather to test the apatite for a Direct to Kunming? I wonder why else they would make a big song a dance out of what is clearly just a slight reconfig of a domestic Chinese route.

Same reason there was a huge song and dance about Air Canada's "direct flights " from YVR to CDG (via YUL) a couple of years ago... Yawn!

I think this is bigger for KMG than YVR to be honest.

SpongeG · #**7075** Posted **Mar 21, 2015, 7:13 PM**

Delayed at Vancouver’s airport? Blame the ‘impressive fire ant’ and don’t expect things to get much better

Kelly Sinoski, Postmedia News | March 19, 2015 | Last Updated: Mar 20 7:37 AM ET

VANCOUVER — The invasive fire ant continues to spread in the Lower Mainland, wreaking havoc on Vancouver airport runways and forcing CP Rail to burn the soil on the Arbutus corridor in attempts to eradicate them.

Last summer, several planes hit birds feeding on the fire ants at YVR, forcing a series of short runway closures.

And the pest problem is no longer confined to the common European fire ant.

It has branched out to include a lesser-known species dubbed the “impressive fire ant,” according to Thompson Rivers University entomologist Rob Higgins.

“We’re talking of two different types of fire ants,” said Higgins, noting both fire ants appear to be on the move. “We’ve got them in virtually every municipality.”

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Airport officials were worried about a spate of collisions between small birds, mostly barn sparrows, and planes on the runway during July and August, which forced them to close the runway for five to eight minutes each time to clear away the mess.

“They wanted to know what they’d been eating,” Higgins said. “I looked at their gut contents and they were full of impressive fire ants. They’d been eating a lot of them, especially the winged queens.”

Higgins said it appears the impressive fire ants, who nested in the grasslands around the airport, were attracted to the end of the runway for their mating flights. The swarm of ants then attracted the birds, most of them barn swallows. In one month last summer, he said, there were 50 collisions between birds and planes. One day, there were five runway closures.

David Bradbeer, a runway wildlife specialist at YVR, confirmed the situation. “It is a service inconvenience, but we do close the runway to remove the carcass because we don’t want another bird to be attracted and get hit.”

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/19/impressive-fire-ants-vancouver/

Johnny Aussie · #**7076** Posted **Mar 21, 2015, 11:10 PM**

^

The entomologist in me thinks that is very impressive.

I didn't realise fire ants were that widespread in BC... I've been away too long I suppose.

Edit: a bit of quick research and voila... First noticed in BC in 2010.

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hra/invasive-species/fire_ants.htm

Wonder what attracts them to the ends of the runways... Perhaps they like to do a bit of plane spotting too.

The insect world is truly fascinating!

Johnny Aussie · #**7077** Posted **Mar 24, 2015, 9:58 AM**

According to OAG and Amadeus there are no Sichuan flights ex YVR after 30 October.

Are these flights just not loaded yet... or... could this mean...? Nooooo!

Edit: just realised in the past that they sometimes hadn't loaded their winter scheds until "later" but other int'l services such as MEL and SYD are showing flights in November onwards.... So... Hmmmm

Hourglass · #**7078** Posted **Mar 24, 2015, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

According to OAG and Amadeus there are no Sichuan flights ex YVR after 30 October.

Are these flights just not loaded yet... or... could this mean...? Nooooo!

Edit: just realised in the past that they sometimes hadn't loaded their winter scheds until "later" but other int'l services such as MEL and SYD are showing flights in November onwards.... So... Hmmmm

Didn't Sichuan Airlines originally fly 3x/week before reducing it to the current 2x/week? Would be interesting to see what the load factors are on these flights, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this route were indeed cancelled.

On another note, it seems that Emirates is upping their Seattle flights to twice daily starting in July.

Johnny Aussie · #**7079** Posted **Mar 24, 2015, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

Didn't Sichuan Airlines originally fly 3x/week before reducing it to the current 2x/week?

It goes 2 weekly in the winter 3 weekly in the summer. Same with MEL-CTU it fluctuates seasonally from 2-3 per week.

Even the new CTU-SVO route launching in May isn't showing any flights in the autumn or winter. Perhaps these routes are going seasonal.
Who knows... Time will tell!

rxp · #**7080** Posted **Mar 26, 2015, 5:07 PM**

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Hainan Air will start service this year to Tel Aviv and San Jose from Beijing, and to Boston and Seattle from Shanghai. It also will start Chongqing-Rome flights from late April. The carrier will increase the frequency of its Beijing-Boston flights.

Bloomberg news

Dont think they fly into Vancouver? why not? possible addition in future?