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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 3:24 PM
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Looks like C.B.S is now the place for lower gas prices again. It used to be that the east end was consistently 3 cents above the Costco price. Over the past few weeks, C.B.S is consistently 3 cents below east end prices and the prices at other retailers in the east end are 7 - 8 cents above Costco.
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So, the Winnipeg Jets are taking their farm team (St. John's Ice Caps) home early. And we're getting the farm team for the Montreal Canadiens.

You know that disease people have where they're convinced they can control traffic lights with their mind? I think I have that but with minor league hockey. We got the Ice Caps when I was living in Winnipeg. And now that my Montreal fetish is even stronger thanks to SSP, we get their farm team.

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A report in Saturday’s Winnipeg Free Press suggests this will be the final season for the Winnipeg Jets’ farm team in St. John’s, with the NHL club slated to bring its minor league operation back to Winnipeg and play out of the MTS Centre.

The Free Press also reports the Jets will be replaced in St. John’s by the Montreal Canadiens’ minor league team.

Neither St. John’s IceCaps CEO Danny Williams nor Chief Operating Officer Glenn Stanford were available for comment Saturday.

The Canadiens have long been mentioned as a possible replacement for the Jets in St. John’s, along with the New York Islanders and possibly the New Jersey Devils.

The Bulldogs have been in Hamilton since 1996, and have been the Canadiens’ farm club since 2002.

However, the team plays out of the aging FirstOntario Centre (formerly Copps Coliseum) in downtown Hamilton. The team is in the bottom half of league attendance, averaging 4,077 per game.

The timing of this latest report, however, is odd given the fact the Canadiens still have a year remaining on their deal keeping the AHL squad in Hamilton.

Montreal’s ultimate plan is to relocate their AHL club closer to home, in the Place Bell Complex, a 10,000-seat arena under construction in Laval which is scheduled to open in the fall of 2017.

The plan is/was to house the farm club in St. John’s for a couple of winters until the rink is ready.

That will also buy St. John’s some more time for find a more permanent NHL partner. And as has been reported in The Telegram, it’s believed that partner could be the new team in Quebec City if it is granted a franchise, which many expect, in 2017 or 2018.

The AHL’s board of governors are scheduled to meet later next week at which time the moves could be approved.
http://www.thetelegram.com/Sports/2015-0...g-farm-club-back-to-Winnipeg%3A-report/1
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Just heard a radio ad by Oceanex. Starts with a family shopping and discovering there's no salad. Ends by explaining Oceanex that store obviously doesn't use them and that Oceanex always gets your products in on time.

Competing with Marine Atlantic more aggressively now.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 2:07 PM
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This is a bit sad....such a lovely looking place.


http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&ID=53539
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Very curious. How is this allowed but the owners of Richmond Cottage on Old Topsail Road are not allowed to demolish the cottage as they wanted to. Oh by the way I am not supporting demolition of either property. Something doesn't seem to be quite right here.

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Does anyone know who the developer is of the Winter Ave. site? Perhaps some public shaming is in order. Seems a little fishy how quickly the demolition took place. Sad really because I bet there was some lovely material in there that could have at least been salvaged..."see that door there, it came from a 130 year old house".
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A lot went wrong with 25 Winter. It basically fell through the cracks for years, somehow never getting designated as a heritage building (which is likely why it differs from Richmond Cottage, I'm assuming that one was designated). It also lay just outside the downtown heritage areas, meaning that there was no mandatory review before the demo permit was issued. Where it wasn't forgotten was at the council level, which specifically ignored the Heritage Advisory Committee's recent recommendation to give it a designation. More disappointing is the developer, who demonstrated a complete lack of respect for the city by not engaging in any way. I'd also love to know who's behind it.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 11:35 AM
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One good thing has come of this, apparently the City is open for business on Sundays now, or at least for demolition permits. I heard that the permit was dated March 8th, a Sunday. Probably a mistake but if it is true someone at the city has some explaining to do.
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You'd be amazed how few buildings in St. John's are designated. Also I believe they said in VOCM today that the last designation was in 1976. There's only a couple dozen, including Downtown commercial building.
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This city has (had?) so much potential to be something truly unique. Instead, we're in a race to see how fast we can make it generic North America.
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http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&id=53557&latest=1

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No development plan has yet been brought before St. John's city council on 25 Winter Avenue.

An excavator showed up on the site of the former historic property yesterday, and knocked the 130 year old structure down, much to the shock and dismay of local residents, councillors, and historians.

Initial reports indicated that the new owner, Ophthalmologist Dr. Chris Jackman, had planned to develop a small subdivision on the land, but Councillor Sandy Hickman, who also sits on the Heritage Advisory Committee, says that may not be the case.

He says they would have loved to have spoken with the new owner to find a way forward and save the property.

He says while they've attempted to communicate with the owner, it's not clear if he wants to subdivide the property or built a single large home.

VOCM News has made an attempt to reach to reach Dr. Jackman.

Someone wants to buld a subdivision....are you serious!?? The site is less than 2 acres in size and is on one of the narrowest streets in the city. I'm sure the residents are going to let that plan pass. If indeed there is one.
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Somewhat ironic that an ophthalmologist has turned a "blind eye" to heritage!
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I've been trying to find out and dying to know, who ordered the demolition of the house? Who is the developer?
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That would be Dr. Chris Jackman of Lasik MD. What a slimy move. Demolition was pretty clearly rushed through to prevent public support from building. Even worse is that the auction description of the property included two proposals for building up to three houses on the lot while keeping Quinnipiac intact! Completely ignored, out of what I can only guess is unmitigated greed. Developers in St. John's are getting increasingly brazen at a time when council is frustratingly weak-willed (in many directions). Luckily this case seems to be building a bit of momentum, and hopefully the same won't happen to Richmond Cottage and others.

There is so much space in St. John's for development harmonious with our heritage structures. It's disappointing that we mostly see lazy and destructive proposals.
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That would be Dr. Chris Jackman of Lasik MD. What a slimy move. Demolition was pretty clearly rushed through to prevent public support from building. Even worse is that the auction description of the property included two proposals for building up to three houses on the lot while keeping Quinnipiac intact! Completely ignored, out of what I can only guess is unmitigated greed. Developers in St. John's are getting increasingly brazen at a time when council is frustratingly weak-willed (in many directions). Luckily this case seems to be building a bit of momentum, and hopefully the same won't happen to Richmond Cottage and others.

There is so much space in St. John's for development harmonious with our heritage structures. It's disappointing that we mostly see lazy and destructive proposals.
According to one councillor, no development proposals have been received on the property? So how does this guy know he is even going to get the green light to proceed with a multi-dwelling development on that piece of land? No doubt area residents will be up in arms about a subdivision put on that tiny street. Although, there was a new street crammed in just down behind Kings Bridge Garage.

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Yeah there's no proposal before council yet. The realtor selling the property simply provided plans for how it COULD be subdivided to make a profit and save the existing structure.
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True, he could end up building a family home on the lot, or a couple with street frontages. In any case it's a shame to destroy such a well-preserved home for an extra 2000 square feet on a 1.5 acre lot.
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You'd be amazed how few buildings in St. John's are designated. Also I believe they said in VOCM today that the last designation was in 1976. There's only a couple dozen, including Downtown commercial building.
The most recent list of structures of heritage importance in Newfoundland and Labrador that I could find is from a 2003 heritage review. It also indicates whether the structure held municipal heritage designation at the time of the report.
Relevant list: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2MVLRTDL7ESZjJJZFhtQVJhTzA/view?usp=sharing
Complete report: http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/file...ings%20and%20Public%20Views%20Report.pdf

As you already know, the Newfoundland and Labrador Historic Trust is holding a meeting on Tuesday, March 31 to discuss the future of built heritage preservation in light of the Quinnipiac demolition. It will be held at the Arts and Culture Centre, 2nd floor, MMAP room ( https://www.facebook.com/events/899640223421020/ ).
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Someone wants to buld a subdivision....are you serious!?? The site is less than 2 acres in size and is on one of the narrowest streets in the city. I'm sure the residents are going to let that plan pass. If indeed there is one.
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True, he could end up building a family home on the lot, or a couple with street frontages. In any case it's a shame to destroy such a well-preserved home for an extra 2000 square feet on a 1.5 acre lot.
For those interested, here is a copy of a 2010 survey of the 25 Winter Ave:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2MVLRTDL7ESTVdkRVhSMkhCVEk/view?usp=sharing

Looks like it sold for $1.3 million:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2MVLRTDL7ESLUFDTXR2WlFoTVk/view?usp=sharing

And here are a few pictures of the interior:
http://www.odea.ca/25winter/25winter.htm

Note the two development plans that would have subdivided the lot but preserved the Quinnipiac structure:
http://www.odea.ca/25winter/MC-12199-001-121121-C-1%20(2).pdf
http://www.odea.ca/25winter/MC-12199-002-121121-C-2%20(2).pdf

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What follows is a bit of a long-winded rant and can be safely ignored.

On the topic of Quinnipiac at 25 Winter Ave, I find myself confused as to the reasoning of City Council in denying the heritage designation after a strong recommendation from the Heritage Advisory Committee. City Council explained that heritage designation was denied because of concern that such designation could interfere with a pending sale, and the city could be liable for loss of compensation. Specifically, Councilman Tom Hann asked, "What says that, if we designate it heritage and the sale falls through, she can’t come in and say, ‘Well, you know, I had a $1.6-million sale, and here’s the bill, so pay up’? And I don’t know if she probably would have a good legal case to do that" (http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/20...age-designation-for-130-year-old-house/1).

Firstly, Councilman Hann is aware that the City Solicitor is available for legal consultation with City Council. Perhaps the media could have questioned why he did not seek such council and instead chose to settle with ignorance. Secondly, it does not take a legal scholar to know that municipal governments in Canada have broad powers to regulate private property for the general welfare. Specifically, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled in Canadian Pacific Railway v. Vancouver that a municipal government is not obligated to compensate a property owner after regulation of land use so long as the regulation still allowed for some private use of the land. Heritage designation would certainly allow for continued private use ( https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/16/index.do ). There is also extensive US case law on the subject of regulatory taking that holds, briefly, that government is free to regulate private property for the general welfare provided that such regulation falls short of denying the property owner any economic use of property ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_taking ).

In light of the probable insincerity (or otherwise incompetence) of Councilman Hann's reasoning, I am surprised that the Heritage Advisory Committee had no recourse, either legally or through political pressure. Perhaps going forward, a statute can be enacted to provide the Historic Advisory Committee with a check and balance power against the City Council regarding demolition of built heritage in St. John's.

One popular ordinance in other cities (Chicago: http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/dcd/supp_info/demolition_delay.html , Boston: http://www.cityofboston.gov/landmarks/article85/ ) is an automatic 90 day demolition delay for any structure either older than a certain age or otherwise determined to have potential heritage importance (a lower threshold than municipal heritage designation). Such an ordinance would not necessarily have saved Quinnipiac from demolition, but would have empowered the Heritage Advisory Committee, perhaps through the Newfoundland and Labrador Historic Trust, to engage in a historical survey of the structure, provide the public opportunity to comment on the demolition, and consider alternatives to demolition. Appropriately, Boston's demolition delay ordinance seeks to reduce the number of demolitions of buildings with no immediate planned re-use of site. Owner Christopher Jackman has not yet submitted plans for re-development of the property.

Another possibility would be to tie demolition of a potential heritage building with an approved plan for re-development. A structure recommended to receive heritage designation by the Heritage Advisory Committee, regardless of designation by City Council, would have demolition delayed until a re-development plan has been approved. This would typically delay demolition simply due to the difficulty of getting development plans approved. Additionally, all discussion of the merits of proposed development would have to be made in light of the merits of preserving the current heritage structure. In the case of Quinnipiac, Dr. Jackman would have had to convince his community and City Council that, not only is either subdivision or construction of a single mansion (or whatever his eventual plan) appropriate for Winter Avenue, it is preferred to alternative plans which preserve the Quinnipiac structure.

Finally, a third approach would be to delegate the power of demolition permit approval to the Heritage Advisory Committee. I understand that in Boston, the Boston Landmarks Commission must first approve an application of demolition before the demolition process can move forward ( http://www.cityofboston.gov/isd/building/demolition.asp ). Currently, City Council has unilateral power to approve demolition permits. Given the irrevocable impact of a demolition on built heritage, this power should rest with an independent committee charged with protecting that heritage, the Heritage Advisory Committee (perhaps renamed simply the Heritage Committee).

Last edited by jthetzel; Mar 25, 2015 at 10:18 PM. Reason: I mistakenly attributed comments by Tom Hann to Dave Lane. I sincerely apologize.
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