DENVER | Main Development Thread #6

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by bcp

Here is your gem..."If the condo tower is build, Sloan’s Lake Park will be in the shade much of the day, the lawsuit alleges."



ya know..some people actually like a little shade once in a while...

I don't know guys... I think this 12-story building is going to black out the sun over the entire park...



Have they not been to Cheesman Park? Or any other park with high-density residential around it for that matter?


Cheesman Park - 04 by RyanDravitz, on Flickr


Cheesman Park - 02 by RyanDravitz, on Flickr


Cheesman Park - 01 by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

AHH LOOK AT THE SHADOWS CAST BY THOSE SUPERTALL SKYSCRAPERS! THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WHOLE PARK!!!!!!! TEAR DOWN REPUBLIC PLAZA! TOO MANY SHADOWS ON THIS SACRED LAND!!!!

[The Dirt]

The sunscreen lobby is at it again!

[enjo13]

Originally Posted by EngiNerd

If I were a betting man I bet we would find that the Burg-Simpson law firm hosts that site or has a big role in it.

EDIT: Actually, the host is based in Lowry, wonder if its connected to the lawyer who doing all the suing in Lowry area


I guess they really liked having a hospital in their backyard instead...

Apparently that hospital had no traffic, noise, or really any negative affect on nearby housing at all.

[rds70]

Check out this .PDF that shows the crazy shadows that will be cast across the park (pages 22-24):

http://sloansdenver.com/assets/July-2014-Block-1-Rezoning.pdf

In this letter, the Sloan's Lake Neighborhood Association is comparing this project to the buildings surrounding Central Park!:

http://www.denvergov.org/sirepub/cache/2/e5afty55unuamw45ewe0jj55/71037603192015114711784.PDF

[bobg]

Originally Posted by rds70

Check out this .PDF that shows the crazy shadows that will be cast across the park (pages 22-24):

http://sloansdenver.com/assets/July-2014-Block-1-Rezoning.pdf

In this letter, the Sloan's Lake Neighborhood Association is comparing this project to the buildings surrounding Central Park!:

http://www.denvergov.org/sirepub/cache/2/e5afty55unuamw45ewe0jj55/71037603192015114711784.PDF

So you're saying I will have to use the northern tennis courts near 26th Ave if I want to play tennis in the sun at sloans lake at 3pm on the day of the Winter Solstice (provided it's sunny, warm enough, and there's not too much snow)?

That does it I am converted, No High Rises in Sloan's Lake!!!

[The Dirt]

Holy shit, I thought you were talking about Stapleton's Central Park but, these idiots are actually comparing a midrise development to supertalls being built next to NYC's Central Park. What is their argument exactly - that Central Park would be a much better place without all of those pesky skyscrapers?

[seventwenty]

Ryan, stop finding reasons to taunt us with your drone, or I will be forced to engage in AAA fire at it. ::cocks BB gun::

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by bcp

Here is your gem..."If the condo tower is build, Sloan’s Lake Park will be in the shade much of the day, the lawsuit alleges."

ya know..some people actually like a little shade once in a while...

Guessing they "determined" this by using those days that are the shortest, when the sun is lowest in trajectory.

Originally Posted by EngiNerd

If I were a betting man I bet we would find that the Burg-Simpson law firm hosts that site or has a big role in it.

EDIT: Actually, the host is based in Lowry, wonder if its connected to the lawyer who doing all the suing in Lowry area

The "Lowery clown" strikes again. I loved this:

Even though Colorado’s laws are among the most builder-friendly laws in the country...

Might as well start off with the biggest pile of dog crap one could make.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

The sunscreen lobby is at it again!

Priceless!

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by rds70

Check out this .PDF that shows the crazy shadows that will be cast across the park (pages 22-24):

http://sloansdenver.com/assets/July-2014-Block-1-Rezoning.pdf

In this letter, the Sloan's Lake Neighborhood Association is comparing this project to the buildings surrounding Central Park!:

http://www.denvergov.org/sirepub/cache/2/e5afty55unuamw45ewe0jj55/71037603192015114711784.PDF

2nd link doesn't work for me (Foxfire).

That shadow analysis is very impressive as they show the projected shadows from in the morning through the afternoon, from summer, spring & fall as well as on December 21st, the shortest day of the year.

[seventwenty]

And how much of this lawsuit is directed at unseating Councilwoman Susan Shepherd vs. actually winning a lawsuit? My understanding is that she's in a tough fight for her seat, going up against a prominent NIMBY.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by seventwenty

And how much of this lawsuit is directed at unseating Councilwoman Susan Shepherd vs. actually winning a lawsuit? My understanding is that she's in a tough fight for her seat, going up against a prominent NIMBY.

Interesting. From Inside Real Estate News article, she states:

Shepherd, on Wednesday, said she is limited in what she can say regarding the complaint. “I am confident that the City Council’s decision will be upheld regarding the rezoning,” Shepherd said.

“It is up to the court to decide,” Shepherd added.

But they clearly target her:

The 10-page complaint also said during Shepherd’s testimony before council and the Denver Community Development and Planning Department, she made “no mention of the West Colfax Plan’s specifications that the tallest buildings be located “toward West Colfax.” This language was intentionally left out of the official presentation.

Umm, perhaps not but I'm sure the West Colfax Plan was brought up by others, no? Ahh, thought so.

[CPVLIVE]

Originally Posted by DownhomeDenver

Well it's happening again another lawsuit filed against the condo development in Sloans lake. Insiderealestatenews.com has the info

Redpeak really did no one any favors when they settled and let those morons from No Highrises in Highlands off with an easy settlement. They lost and they should have been forced to pay everyone's legal costs. These frivolous suits will continue until someone loses some skin. If these folks saw that the No Highlands folks were out 80K they might think twice about sticking their noses in other people's business.

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by CPVLIVE

Redpeak really did no one any favors when they settled and let those morons from No Highrises in Highlands off with an easy settlement. They lost and they should have been forced to pay everyone's legal costs. These frivolous suits will continue until someone loses some skin. If these folks saw that the No Highlands folks were out 80K they might think twice about sticking their noses in other people's business.

Couldn't agree more.

[bcp]

and that land sits..and sits..way to go RNO!

[EngiNerd]

It honestly just blows my mind that these people, who have lived next to a hospital for many many years, which has ambulances, sirens, etc. all hours of the night, with a huge turnover of people coming and going to the hospital, are so concerned about a residential development...and a for sale condo development at that! I just can't fathom the thinking behind this...anything is better than living next to a hospital!

Originally Posted by TakeFive

Interesting. From Inside Real Estate News article, she states:

But they clearly target her:

Umm, perhaps not but I'm sure the West Colfax Plan was brought up by others, no? Ahh, thought so.

So in one sentence they complain about shadows on the park, and then in the next they complain about the tower being located toward W. Colfax, away from the park?

Originally Posted by CPVLIVE

Redpeak really did no one any favors when they settled and let those morons from No Highrises in Highlands off with an easy settlement. They lost and they should have been forced to pay everyone's legal costs. These frivolous suits will continue until someone loses some skin. If these folks saw that the No Highlands folks were out 80K they might think twice about sticking their noses in other people's business.

Isn't that the absolute truth

[Scottk]

Originally Posted by CPVLIVE

Redpeak really did no one any favors when they settled and let those morons from No Highrises in Highlands off with an easy settlement. They lost and they should have been forced to pay everyone's legal costs. These frivolous suits will continue until someone loses some skin. If these folks saw that the No Highlands folks were out 80K they might think twice about sticking their noses in other people's business.

I haven't really followed that development but isn't another developer now planning to build something nearly identical to what red peak proposed at that lot?

[DownhomeDenver]

Originally Posted by bcp

and that land sits..and sits..way to go RNO!

Until someone develops a beautiful Whole Foods or a Super Target on that site. No one will be happy until that happens. And I mean the entire site with a huge sprawling parking lot.

[DownhomeDenver]

Originally Posted by Scottk

I haven't really followed that development but isn't another developer now planning to build something nearly identical to what red peak proposed at that lot?

Yes sir!

[Scottk]

Originally Posted by DownhomeDenver

Yes sir!

Ha! I'm sure that the Nimbys are thrilled.

What I don't understand is if Red Peak won the lawsuit, why didn't they go through with the development?

Maybe they were sick of dealing with the neighborhood and just wanted to cut their losses?