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Old Posted Mar 13, 2015, 4:46 AM
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RBC locating in the old RIM complex is great news. Hopefully they will eventually create 2,000 new jobs in Halifax.

With the good RBC news there is some bad news that is a real headshaker for me - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scoti...ust-weather-related-says-union-1.2982835. Since this story became news several days ago, a couple of ships have diverted to US ports.

A good reputation is important to attract new business to the port, so I just can't understand how the situation at the Autoport is allowed to happen. Surely someone can come up with a practical solution and spend the money necessary to show that Nova Scotia means business. Everyone involved should be working around the clock to get this cleared up.
The ice mess over at Autoport is an embarrassment. Ships being delayed or not being able to unload is a major blow to our reputation.

They say there is no solution to the ice other than to wait. What about portable tents and heaters? or what about hand labour? I dont get it. There should be some solution? Of course the best solution is not to have cars piled up like that in the first place, but the blame there as I understand it lays with CN not providing proper rail service.

Not much different than what theyve done to the container piers, causing shippers (like CAT I believe) to move to other ports where service is faster/better. Id expect nothing less from Quebec centric CN. Its like they believe that Canada stops at the Quebec border.

"Andy Abbott, president of Atlantic Container Line shipping, which moved the containers into Halifax, said Caterpillar could not afford delays with CN Rail."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/port-of-halifax-loses-big-customer-1.753146
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2015, 5:58 AM
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My question was 'any business' and you have provided no reason why Nova Scotia should be preferred over Maine, Massachusetts, Oregon or many other states or provinces.
You should contact RBC immediately and tell them they've made a terrible mistake.
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My question was 'any business' and you have provided no reason why Nova Scotia should be preferred over Maine, Massachusetts, Oregon or many other states or provinces.
Corporate taxes is a minor issue and based on police statistics the other issues listed in 1) may be good reasons not to locate in Halifax.
'Highly educated' is dependent on the particular qualifications and how they fit in the marketplace. Having a lot of people with a Bachelor degree does not translate to highly educated.
A company looks at several key factors : Availability of skilled labour, competent government, good schools, cultural assets, quality of life, connectivity to the world, and attitude towards business. We have the last 3 but the first 4 are somewhat lacking.
The culture of defeat that is evident in your reply is a major part of the problem. All the hand wringing and negativity about apparently how awful it is here and how no company should want to come here is a huge part of the vicious cycle that we can't seem to break here in NS... and frankly it is untrue that no companies see reasons to come here based on our strengths.

In fact, your question as posed is way way too broad. We in NS will never, nor should we be, the ideal locale for any and all sectors to locate. We do have gaps that make NS the wrong place for certain sectors. For a century now the approach to economic development in NS has to been to throw money after chasing the next big hit, in whatever industry that might be, or in propping up as industry because it already happened to be here. Such an approach fails because it is unfocused and does not start by looking at what our strengths are. Instead, one of the issues with that and with your approach in the above response is that we need to look at slowly building from the ground up, based on identifying those sectors in which we DO have what companies are looking for.

The issue is that that is not sexy, and it is not a quick fix with immediate political gain. Instead, we then end up with government after government looking for the quick fix, and those in opposition to the government wringing their hands and spouting the same kind of extreme negativity of "name a reason why a company would actually want to come to this hellhole?" (to paraphrase how your question comes across).

The long term play is the only solution that will result in a fundamental shift in this province's economy, but of course, just like Maple Leafs fans, many people in this province will not put up with a long term rebuild.

The fact is, Someone123 and Fenwick are right... the financial services sector has specific business reasons why they chose to come here that have nothing to do with tax breaks. These reasons don't support your argument, but the fact is that they would disagree with you on things like lack of skilled labour, good schools etc. Instead, this sector often cites the strong business schools in Halifax, the pool of available talent who wish to work here, and the strategic business advantages that Someone123 mentioned of the timezone shift.

In the life sciences sector I am seeing the same thing. In the past year there have been multiple companies who have moved here from places like Toronto the bay area of California. They didn't come here because they were offered a payroll rebate, they came here because they fundamentally see it as the right move for their business. In the lead-up to chairing a discussion panel on the future of the life sciences industry at last year's BioPort Atlantic conference, I talked to the CEOs of these companies and asked them why they moved here. I can tell you that they would disagree with your conclusions, when it comes to this specific sector. Instead, they moved their companies exactly because NS offered a better environment to grow their company that a place like Toronto did, and because for them there were strategic advantages to doing the work here.

This obviously is not true for every sector and every business. Instead, we need to as a province look at those sectors who DO see the strategic advantage of being in NS, and focus on building those up slowly through a series of small hits rather than one big home-run. We are seeing that sort of growth at the start-up level in sectors like IT, life science, and financial services. Are things perfect? No. Could we do even better in building up these sectors? Absolutely. But I can tell you from talking to the life science CEOs that I know, that these people are serial entrepreneurs, and they are seeing the advantage of working here and already some have plans to continue to create new startups here in Halifax. That is how we will create a shift in our economy.
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The culture of defeat that is evident in your reply is a major part of the problem. All the hand wringing and negativity about apparently how awful it is here and how no company should want to come here is a huge part of the vicious cycle that we can't seem to break here in NS... and frankly it is untrue that no companies see reasons to come here based on our strengths.

In fact, your question as posed is way way too broad. We in NS will never, nor should we be, the ideal locale for any and all sectors to locate. We do have gaps that make NS the wrong place for certain sectors. For a century now the approach to economic development in NS has to been to throw money after chasing the next big hit, in whatever industry that might be, or in propping up as industry because it already happened to be here. Such an approach fails because it is unfocused and does not start by looking at what our strengths are. Instead, one of the issues with that and with your approach in the above response is that we need to look at slowly building from the ground up, based on identifying those sectors in which we DO have what companies are looking for.

The issue is that that is not sexy, and it is not a quick fix with immediate political gain. Instead, we then end up with government after government looking for the quick fix, and those in opposition to the government wringing their hands and spouting the same kind of extreme negativity of "name a reason why a company would actually want to come to this hellhole?" (to paraphrase how your question comes across).

The long term play is the only solution that will result in a fundamental shift in this province's economy, but of course, just like Maple Leafs fans, many people in this province will not put up with a long term rebuild.

The fact is, Someone123 and Fenwick are right... the financial services sector has specific business reasons why they chose to come here that have nothing to do with tax breaks. These reasons don't support your argument, but the fact is that they would disagree with you on things like lack of skilled labour, good schools etc. Instead, this sector often cites the strong business schools in Halifax, the pool of available talent who wish to work here, and the strategic business advantages that Someone123 mentioned of the timezone shift.

In the life sciences sector I am seeing the same thing. In the past year there have been multiple companies who have moved here from places like Toronto the bay area of California. They didn't come here because they were offered a payroll rebate, they came here because they fundamentally see it as the right move for their business. In the lead-up to chairing a discussion panel on the future of the life sciences industry at last year's BioPort Atlantic conference, I talked to the CEOs of these companies and asked them why they moved here. I can tell you that they would disagree with your conclusions, when it comes to this specific sector. Instead, they moved their companies exactly because NS offered a better environment to grow their company that a place like Toronto did, and because for them there were strategic advantages to doing the work here.

This obviously is not true for every sector and every business. Instead, we need to as a province look at those sectors who DO see the strategic advantage of being in NS, and focus on building those up slowly through a series of small hits rather than one big home-run. We are seeing that sort of growth at the start-up level in sectors like IT, life science, and financial services. Are things perfect? No. Could we do even better in building up these sectors? Absolutely. But I can tell you from talking to the life science CEOs that I know, that these people are serial entrepreneurs, and they are seeing the advantage of working here and already some have plans to continue to create new startups here in Halifax. That is how we will create a shift in our economy.
Good post. I don't see the 'culture of defeat' as being so severe as it was in the past. In fact I see a lot of positivity around here these days. It still lingers in the hearts of some but I think overall the population is much more enlightened than in the past.

Then there's the human element. Other than the weather of February 2015, this is a great place to live. I think that in itself is a reason why businesses/corporations would want to set up shop here. In fact, just yesterday I picked up a colleague from Toronto at the airport and he immediately exclaimed about how much nicer it is here than Toronto, even with our 15-foot ice banks. Those were his words not mine.

Nice place to live = happy employees = more harmonious workplace = greater productivity. IMHO.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2015, 2:24 PM
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Good post. Blanket negative statements are untrue and perpetuate the pessimistic attitudes in the area
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2015, 3:22 PM
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I find that people in NS sometimes compare a slanted negative view of their home to idealized, simplified portrayals of other places. The Bay Area is one good example that people in Halifax tend to assume is just better. However, companies there have to pay high salaries that get captured by landlords charging $3k/month for shoebox apartments. The transportation situation there is also horrendous. I don't think the standard of living there is any higher than Halifax, even though the climate is nicer in California (until you get melanoma), and the cost of doing business is much higher.

One of the reasons why I complain about nothing happening with transit in Halifax is that I think it is a fixable problem that would only cost a moderate amount of money. Large metropolitan areas like SF and Toronto are in a much tighter bind. Better local transportation (and therefore housing options) could be better capitalized on as a huge advantage to locating in Halifax. If you really are worried about competitiveness in NS and want to be constructive, you should focus on improving concrete things like transportation.
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Labour force numbers continue to look really good for Halifax and for NS: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/lfss04a-eng.htm

NS now has fairly high job vacancies as well, according to the site that shall not be named (original source is Statistic Canada). The ratio of job seekers to open positions dropped from 10.6 to 6.6 over the past year.

Another observation: Statistics Canada now estimates that there are slightly more people employed in Halifax (224,800) than in Newfoundland and Labrador (224,100, http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/lfss02a-eng.htm).
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My question was 'any business' and you have provided no reason why Nova Scotia should be preferred over Maine, Massachusetts, Oregon or many other states or provinces.
This is RBC, right?

I don't know about 'any business' and it might not serve the purposes of cold, hard economics, but... Halifax WAS where RBC was founded, right? As well as Scotiabank.

And half of CIBC.
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The culture of defeat that is evident in your reply is a major part of the problem. All the hand wringing and negativity about apparently how awful it is here and how no company should want to come here is a huge part of the vicious cycle that we can't seem to break here in NS... and frankly it is untrue that no companies see reasons to come here based on our strengths.

In fact, your question as posed is way way too broad. We in NS will never, nor should we be, the ideal locale for any and all sectors to locate. We do have gaps that make NS the wrong place for certain sectors. For a century now the approach to economic development in NS has to been to throw money after chasing the next big hit, in whatever industry that might be, or in propping up as industry because it already happened to be here. Such an approach fails because it is unfocused and does not start by looking at what our strengths are. Instead, one of the issues with that and with your approach in the above response is that we need to look at slowly building from the ground up, based on identifying those sectors in which we DO have what companies are looking for.

The issue is that that is not sexy, and it is not a quick fix with immediate political gain. Instead, we then end up with government after government looking for the quick fix, and those in opposition to the government wringing their hands and spouting the same kind of extreme negativity of "name a reason why a company would actually want to come to this hellhole?" (to paraphrase how your question comes across).

The long term play is the only solution that will result in a fundamental shift in this province's economy, but of course, just like Maple Leafs fans, many people in this province will not put up with a long term rebuild.

The fact is, Someone123 and Fenwick are right... the financial services sector has specific business reasons why they chose to come here that have nothing to do with tax breaks. These reasons don't support your argument, but the fact is that they would disagree with you on things like lack of skilled labour, good schools etc. Instead, this sector often cites the strong business schools in Halifax, the pool of available talent who wish to work here, and the strategic business advantages that Someone123 mentioned of the timezone shift.

In the life sciences sector I am seeing the same thing. In the past year there have been multiple companies who have moved here from places like Toronto the bay area of California. They didn't come here because they were offered a payroll rebate, they came here because they fundamentally see it as the right move for their business. In the lead-up to chairing a discussion panel on the future of the life sciences industry at last year's BioPort Atlantic conference, I talked to the CEOs of these companies and asked them why they moved here. I can tell you that they would disagree with your conclusions, when it comes to this specific sector. Instead, they moved their companies exactly because NS offered a better environment to grow their company that a place like Toronto did, and because for them there were strategic advantages to doing the work here.

This obviously is not true for every sector and every business. Instead, we need to as a province look at those sectors who DO see the strategic advantage of being in NS, and focus on building those up slowly through a series of small hits rather than one big home-run. We are seeing that sort of growth at the start-up level in sectors like IT, life science, and financial services. Are things perfect? No. Could we do even better in building up these sectors? Absolutely. But I can tell you from talking to the life science CEOs that I know, that these people are serial entrepreneurs, and they are seeing the advantage of working here and already some have plans to continue to create new startups here in Halifax. That is how we will create a shift in our economy.
Great post, and I think that many would be surprised as to how many Nova Scotians don't have a defeatist viewpoint and do see their city and province as a good thing. As with anything negative viewpoints and comments tend to drown out the good ones.

I for one think that this is a opportunity for Halifax and Nova Scotia and we should try to attract more companies and jobs like this to our province.

I also think one of the main things behind the defeatist attitude is the rise of tradespeople coming out of NSCC and other schools/courses like it. Nova Scotia simply doesn't have that many jobs here where we need that many pipe fitters, or heavy equipment mechanics or any other skill that you can think of, therefore those people tend to see Nova Scotia has having "No jobs" and move some place else because it's "better".

I may be slightly biased in my viewpoint due to being a university graduate but I believe that we should be attracting financial, scientific, high tech, etc... jobs to Nova Scotia over promoting the trades and skills. Not to say that those people aren't needed and I truly have no hard evidence to back this up, but it's just how I feel that we are.
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I may be slightly biased in my viewpoint due to being a university graduate but I believe that we should be attracting financial, scientific, high tech, etc... jobs to Nova Scotia over promoting the trades and skills. Not to say that those people aren't needed and I truly have no hard evidence to back this up, but it's just how I feel that we are.
My professional qualifications were internationally recognised and could be obtained without attending a college or university. Examinations set by government. Other national governments had the same or very similar standards.
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My professional qualifications were internationally recognised and could be obtained without attending a college or university. Examinations set by government. Other national governments had the same or very similar standards.
So with all of your international recognition, what is your solution to attracting more companies to Nova Scotia?
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So with all of your international recognition, what is your solution to attracting more companies to Nova Scotia?
Re-incarnate Robert Manuge.
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Interesting. What area may I ask?

Today, across many occupations, most jurisdictions (including provinces) seek to limit the transferability of qualifications.

The labour market is significantly more competitive in 2015, especially with the babyboomers only starting to retire now due to their losses in the GFC.
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Interesting. What area may I ask?

Today, across many occupations, most jurisdictions (including provinces) seek to limit the transferability of qualifications.

The labour market is significantly more competitive in 2015, especially with the babyboomers only starting to retire now due to their losses in the GFC.
National government accreditation. A friend remains in the profession despite being past the retirement age and now lives in Sweden and is employed across the globe in the same industry.
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Nova Scotia's deficit smaller than predicted

Net debt stands at $15 billion

The Nova Scotia government finished last year in a stronger financial position than predicted, thanks largely to tax revenues that were higher than budgeted.

The government released its audited financial statements on Thursday for the fiscal year that ended March 31, 2015.

The deficit is $143.7 million, lower than the $279 million that was budgeted.

The variance is due largely to an additional $228 million in provincial revenues from sales tax and income tax. The province's total spending was $92.7 million more than projected.

The province's net debt stands at $15 billion.

By the numbers:

- Total Nova Scotia revenues: $10.6 billion
- Total Nova Scotia expenses: $10.8 billion
- Year-end deficit: $143.7 million
- Net debt: $15 billion
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Good labour force statistics for the past year in Halifax: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/lfss04a-eng.htm

Population up 1.4% (+4,900 in the 15-and-over age bracket that is tracked), employment up 1.7% (+3,900 jobs in the city).
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This story sounds good, I hope it is accurate.

(source and full story: http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/hal...entum-over-next-two-years-528799081.html)
Halifax's economy to gain momentum over next two years

OTTAWA, Sept. 23, 2015 /CNW/ - Fuelled by strength in the manufacturing and construction sectors, Halifax's economy is expected to grow by 2.3 per cent this year. Next year looks even better, as real GDP growth is projected to accelerate to 3 per cent, according to The Conference Board of Canada's Metropolitan Outlook: Autumn 2015.

"Halifax is benefiting from strong outlooks in both manufacturing and construction. Manufacturing will ramp up this year as production of new ships for the Royal Canadian Navy gets under way. Meanwhile, the construction sector is on track to post double-digit growth this year, thanks to an increase in new home construction and a host of non-residential projects," said Alan Arcand, Associate Director, Centre for Municipal Studies.

HIGHLIGHTS

Halifax's economy is expected to grow by 2.3 per cent this year, helped by strength in the manufacturing and construction sectors.
The region's economy is forecast to increase another 3 per cent in 2016.
Halifax's construction sector is on track to grow by 11.6 in 2015.
Vancouver will be the fastest growing metropolitan economy in the country this year, while long-standing economic leaders Calgary and Edmonton face recession.
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The province should get busy ordering a replacement for the VG.
Harper has thrown money at healthcare, 6% annual increases for the past several years and we still have an ancient, delapidated main hospital.
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Harper has thrown money at healthcare, 6% annual increases for the past several years and we still have an ancient, delapidated main hospital.
Healthcare is expected to increase by only 2.1% this year, which is actually low in comparison to the roughly 7% annual increase in the first decade of the millennium. In fact, accounting for inflation and population changes, 2014 had a decrease in healthcare spending (averaged across the country).

Our issue in NS isn't necessarily how much we spend on healthcare (or at least no more of a problem than the rest of the country), it is our crappy GDP. Blame our economy. Our cost per capita is actually not far off the average, and is pretty much the same as AB. The issue is, AB has WAY higher GDP and hence has a far better capacity to pay that same per capita cost.

Interestingly as well, the driver for cost increases is actually not turning out to so far be the aging baby boomers. Hospital spending is about a 2% increase last year (roughly inflation), and drugs are around a 1% increase (less than inflation). Instead, according to the Canadian Institute for Health Information physician fees have significantly outpaced both hospital and drug costs in the past decade. They also conclude that more generally the primary driver of costs currently is general inflation.

Having said that, it is clear that in the bigger picture, by far the most significant issue for healthcare is actually our economy. A 2% growth in health spending that is basically in line with inflation is not that unreasonable. However, the route to a more sustainable health system lies in economic growth leading to a higher GDP. We need the growth in GDP to start out placing both inflation and health spending. When you look at the numbers, that is by far the biggest standout difference between NS and a place like AB... we both spend about the same on healthcare per person, but only one of those two provinces generates the wealth to pay for it. We have to start thinking differently in this province when it comes to generating the wealth needed to pay for healthcare.
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