Saskatoon Construction II

[nook]

Buildings that are taken care of over their life last longer than those that don't. It catches up to a building after a time, and if the building isn't taken care of, this will happen.

I think it is time to move on.

[ToonTownRob]

Originally Posted by Brutopian

Zach Jeffries (City Councillor for Ward 10) has posted on this forum before. His ward is located close to Brighton. Perhaps he can shed some light on the city's thinking here.

There is NO thinking here!

[jigglysquishy]

I was actually able to get an answer from the city on why they're adding lights in Brighton.

Stonebridge has only two entry/exit points (soon to be three) and is too few for its traffic volume. Holmwood (population 70,000) only had four planned entry/exit points. The city wanted another (and will likely add more) so the neighbourhoods are more porous and aren''t an island onto themselves.

The city can't afford to put interchanges at every intersection so lights it is.

There was no cheap way to get traffic to flow well from Holmwood. Traffic — in the suburbs, just the way it's going to be.

College is going to get bottlenecked anyways with two lanes being converted to bus lanes between Clarence and Preston in the next 5 years.

[nook]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

I was actually able to get an answer from the city on why they're adding lights in Brighton.

Stonebridge has only two entry/exit points (soon to be three) and is too few for its traffic volume. Holmwood (population 70,000) only had four planned entry/exit points. The city wanted another (and will likely add more) so the neighbourhoods are more porous and aren''t an island onto themselves.

The city can't afford to put interchanges at every intersection so lights it is.

There was no cheap way to get traffic to flow well from Holmwood. Traffic — in the suburbs, just the way it's going to be.

College is going to get bottlenecked anyways with two lanes being converted to bus lanes between Clarence and Preston in the next 5 years.

I'd like to know when they're going to put street lights up at that area of College Drive between Arbor Creek and Brighton. That stretch of road on a dark, icy night can be a — with no lights.

[ToonTownRob]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

I was actually able to get an answer from the city on why they're adding lights in Brighton.

Stonebridge has only two entry/exit points (soon to be three) and is too few for its traffic volume. Holmwood (population 70,000) only had four planned entry/exit points. The city wanted another (and will likely add more) so the neighbourhoods are more porous and aren''t an island onto themselves.

The city can't afford to put interchanges at every intersection so lights it is.

There was no cheap way to get traffic to flow well from Holmwood. Traffic — in the suburbs, just the way it's going to be.

College is going to get bottlenecked anyways with two lanes being converted to bus lanes between Clarence and Preston in the next 5 years.

Which just demonstrates how clued out they are! The design of the neighborhood is wrong, just like Stonebridge was/is and they don't even realize their mistake! Idiots!

[jigglysquishy]

Originally Posted by ToonTownRob

Which just demonstrates how clued out they are! The design of the neighborhood is wrong, just like Stonebridge was/is and they don't even realize their mistake! Idiots!

There's really no way to have designed Brighton without causing traffic issues.

The whole Holmwood area has 70,000 people. That's 70,000 additional cars on the road just in east Saskatoon. It's pretty much impossible for that to not result in worsening traffic.

[macca]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

There's really no way to have designed Brighton without causing traffic issues.

The whole Holmwood area has 70,000 people. That's 70,000 additional cars on the road just in east Saskatoon. It's pretty much impossible for that to not result in worsening traffic.

People =/= cars.

At least, not with good urban design.

[jigglysquishy]

Originally Posted by macca

People =/= cars.

At least, not with good urban design.

Brighton will end up being the most walkable neighbourhood the city has built since World War II. Is it perfect? No, far from it, but it's still the best in 70 years.

Part of the reason the city wants to add more intersections on College is to increase the pedestrian connectivity between Holmwood and University Heights.

[hunter12]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

Brighton will end up being the most walkable neighbourhood the city has built since World War II. Is it perfect? No, far from it, but it's still the best in 70 years.

Part of the reason the city wants to add more intersections on College is to increase the pedestrian connectivity between Holmwood and University Heights.

I don't think so. Where the intersections are going there is no access to university heights except across a fence and through someone's back yard.

If McOrmond and Zimmerman road are designed properly they could handle traffic in and out. There. Will also be 8 th street, Taylor, Zimmerman road to the south and perimeter highway to east for access. Other major cities have figured out how to flow traffic to freeways I am sure it can be done.

[SaskScraper]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

I was actually able to get an answer from the city on why they're adding lights in Brighton.

Stonebridge has only two entry/exit points (soon to be three) and is too few for its traffic volume. Holmwood (population 70,000) only had four planned entry/exit points. The city wanted another (and will likely add more) so the neighbourhoods are more porous and aren''t an island onto themselves.

The city can't afford to put interchanges at every intersection so lights it is.

There was no cheap way to get traffic to flow well from Holmwood. Traffic — in the suburbs, just the way it's going to be.

College is going to get bottlenecked anyways with two lanes being converted to bus lanes between Clarence and Preston in the next 5 years.

Gridlock traffic jams doesn't make neighbourhoods more porous it just makes for longer commutes which makes for more traffic exhaust, which makes for less green environmental practices. If every car traveling on College Dr has to slow down to stop then accelerate at another traffic light a couple extra minutes each day that means 70,000 people in almost as many cars setting their car to idle for 12 extra hours/year, do the math..

City can't afford to make an interchange at the new neighbourhood but it can afford $33.5 million to get a tunneling machine to bore under one year old houses to supply the 'no island on to itself' neighbourhood with sewer & water?
http://tunnelingonline.com/design-build-saskatoon/

..the debacle with planning Parkway bridge road through Evergreen is just another example of bad city planning..

..this is the kind of short vision the city planners have.. they couldn't plan their way out of a wet paper bag..

No wonder Martensville at 50% growth rate between 2006 & 2011 is the second fastest growing municipality in Canada, followed not far behind by... You guessed it! ..Warman at 49% growth rate over the same period..

[Brutopian]

Final Moments for Historic Farnam Block Building on Broadway

Written by Adam Brilz, saskatoonhomepage.ca
Friday, 13 March 2015

It's the end of an era in the Broadway district, as crews started the process leading to demolition of the Farnam Block building.

Demolition crews took the "Farnam Block, 1912" sign off the former home of Lydia's Pub and destroyed a little red house behind the building Friday morning.

The new property owners got the go ahead from the City of Saskatoon to take down the building earlier this week, after they found structural costs on the facade alone could exceed a million dollars

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Read more:
http://www.saskatoonhomepage.ca/final-mo...nam-block-building-on-broadway/itemid_21

[Brutopian]

Watch video here of demolition of the house that Turning the Tide Bookstore used to call home. The house was located directly behind the Farnam Block building.

[Temperance]

So nothing is being saved at all from the building? I read that they wouldn't even allow the heritage society inside to take some pictures. They are just demolishing it as fast as they can. Shameful.

[Echoes]

Originally Posted by Temperance

So nothing is being saved at all from the building? I read that they wouldn't even allow the heritage society inside to take some pictures. They are just demolishing it as fast as they can. Shameful.

The way that they are carefully removing this element of the building suggests otherwise:



http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/saska...arnam+Block+expected/10887717/story.html

They could've demolished the building without bothering removing the crown. I wouldn't be surprised to see it incorporated into the redevelopment.

[Temperance]

Originally Posted by Echoes

The way that they are carefully removing this element of the building suggests otherwise:

They could've demolished the building without bothering removing the crown. I wouldn't be surprised to see it incorporated into the redevelopment.

That's great but it really isn't much. I thought they were talking about at least using the facade? So much for that.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by Temperance

That's great but it really isn't much. I thought they were talking about at least using the facade? So much for that.

The facade really isn't in great shape and painted brick would be hard to salvage and re-use. More importantly, the facade couldn't be easily modified to work into a new building that provides grade level access. The owners are also saving some additional elements such as the concrete arch reading "Farnham Block 1912" beneath the arched cornice in Echoes photo.

The owners are the ones who put up their money to buy the building and have the right to do with it as they please. Everyone else is just expressing an opinion and you know the old saying about opinions....

[The Bess]

anybody run across this before

http://themyriad.ca/

[casper]

Originally Posted by The Bess

anybody run across this before

http://themyriad.ca/

Looking at the floor plan for phase II I am impressed. Three stores of retail in that type of layout is something your are more likely to find in Asia than North America. Clearly they are looking for Asian buyers into the project.

A food court and three stories of retail. Interesting.

If they can make it work I think it is a major step forward in making Willowgrove a livable community. What I don't know is if it will fly.

[EarlyByrdProductions]

Originally Posted by drm310

Look at what happened with the Barry Hotel (not that there was any heritage left to save). A veterinarian bought it just to tear it down. Gravel parking lot ever since.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/technology/Barry+Hotel+There+good+ugly+true/8947783/story.html

That might be the best investment of a gravel parking lot the city has ever seen!
Getting rid of the Barry and all its attached west side stereotypes, set the bar to pave the way for Riversdale to turn into the hottest new neighbourhood in Western Canada.

Anyone that says the Barry should have been saved should be shot...or worse, forced to take a shot in the bar.

[macca]

Around 15 years ago I severely sprained my ankle. I was on crutches for weeks and seriously hobbled for months. I did a bit of physio but didn't really stick with it. It was years until it didn't hurt during or after exercise and even a decade later it would get sore if it was really cold outside. So eventually I made the difficult decision to amputate my foot.

Best decision I ever made. No more pain or discomfort or restless nights with a throbbing ankle.