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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 9:12 PM
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The W St Paul mutual aid agreements would probably be with the RM's of E St Paul, Rockwood and Rosser.

For the RM of Springfield the Winnipeg FD only responds to the MPI complex on Plessis RD, and the Border Chemical plant on Gunn Rd. And that is only because those companies pay a yearly retainer fee plus a hefty hourly rate per truck when there is a call out.

People outside of the city have to realize that one if the reasons their taxes are low is that they have a volunteer fire department and response times are not going to be the same.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 9:24 PM
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The ambulance for WStP is out of Selkirk, not Winnipeg. There is a remote station on Grassmere Road.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 9:25 PM
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The rural volunteer fire department process is fairly simple although not well understood inside the Perimeter.

For discussion purposes here let's go with the assumption the average distance from a residency to the fire hall in a rural area is 15 minutes. The moment your realize there is a fire and call the fire department for response they then call out to their volunteers. Those volunteers live approximately 15 minutes from the equipment which is then another 15 minutes from the fire. This means it would not be surprising for a fire to burn for 30 minutes before the first emergency responder arrives on scene. Add in factors like the fire burning for some time before you actual notice and make the call and that there is no fire hydrant requiring the crews to make repeated runs back to the station to refill the tanker and you start to understand why a house fire in rural Manitoba is usually a complete loss. And in case you are wondering, paramedic service in these areas is usually done on the same volunteer basis, but there add in your travel time to the nearest ER which is usually in a major city.

In terms of the ESP tunnel, if you read the link from Browaty's site there is a motion from ESP council that clearly calls the tunnel "two vehicular lanes". That basically confirms it is more than just access for emergency vehicles as they would only need a single lane of access as two way traffic would be unheard of in those situations.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 9:30 PM
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Other than the insurance companies giving a better rate for full time fire departments which would drive political demand, is there a legislative requirement in Manitoba to have a full time department when the RM's populations reaches a certain size?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 10:48 PM
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It's for sure going to be AT and emergency access. That's 100%. It's the regular vehicle access that is the point here. ESP put the motion forward to look into the 2 way vehicle thing. They need millions to pay for it and said they only had one week or something to respond to MIT. So they gave there conditional approval to move forward. But we'll see what actually happens.

Basically MIT is saying if ESP wants two way traffic through there, they need to at least cost share the additional.cost. mit is paying for the AT and emergency portion. But not to provide convience to residents.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 11:38 PM
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^ From what I can gather from my sources, this one is on the Cities end. Consultants did what they were told, from what I hear anecdotal. We'll see once the project is complete if any lawsuits will come against the consultant.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/O...ct-295918381.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2

On another City project, Plessis underpass. Again from my sources. The contractor is having, what I would consider major, issues which are causing delays. This one's on the contractors end. Cost over-runs I'm not sure of. Again we'll see if lawsuits come out of it if the Feds cancel their funding of $25M.
Hanscomb doesn't analyze soft costs. Anybody who has every looked at a project of any sort would immediately ask the question whether the report included both the hard and soft cost estimates. This is what happens when police try to mange $100MM development projects. And if nobody - including council - failed to even inquire about whether somewhere on the order of 25% of the project costs were being accounted for, then I don't even know what to say except maybe that no amount of planning or due diligence can save this city from the structural incompetence rife throughout the ranks.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 11:46 PM
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 4:36 AM
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And in case you are wondering, paramedic service in these areas is usually done on the same volunteer basis, but there add in your travel time to the nearest ER which is usually in a major city.
Almost all EMS stations in Manitoba are now professional paid positions, even if they aren't in station 24/7.
     
     
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I dare hate to admit I am getting used to Alt , just wish the tower was closer to portage to create more of a cannon as you don't even notice it when in the north lanes heading west.
Parkade will definatly look good with the red and led lights.
Glass will sure have a smsll base. Isn't it suppose to be tilted as it gets taller? As so the floor plates get larger or has that design been thrown away?
     
     
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I dare hate to admit I am getting used to Alt
I was in the Exchange District with an out of town guest over the weekend and the view of Alt from around King and McDermot was not half bad on a sunny day.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 2:18 PM
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I was in the Exchange District with an out of town guest over the weekend and the view of Alt from around King and McDermot was not half bad on a sunny day.
The view from that stretch of King is pretty interesting... if you look south, it's dominated by two very contemporary-looking towers. It's an unusual sight for Winnipeg.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 2:24 PM
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Glass will sure have a smsll base. Isn't it suppose to be tilted as it gets taller? As so the floor plates get larger or has that design been thrown away?
The renderings have that forced perspective thing. Pretty sure the building is a bit funny shaped, as in not square, but rises straight up and down.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 5:18 PM
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U of M Bannatyne Campus Faculty of Nursing - New Build

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http://www.cibinel.com/project/u-of-m-bannatyne-campus-master-plan/

The master plan by Cibinel/UM is quite impressive..
http://umanitoba.ca/admin/campus_planning_office/media/140514_Bannatyne_Master_Plan_for_web.pdf
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 7:02 PM
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McDermot at HSC has an awesome vibe. A couple of more buildings the scale of the Nursing Building will really improve the area. I wish there would be more buildings of that scale downtown filling up some of the empty surface lots.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 7:25 PM
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^ I agree. McDermot by the Brodie Centre is probably one of the most urban-feeling spaces in all of Winnipeg. A few more buildings like the Apotex Centre lining McDermot will really improve the feel of what is already a pretty cool looking block.

I'm a bit surprised that a lot of the housing immediately to the west and east of HSC isn't in greater demand... it's a bit like RRC PSC... you have this cool urban campus environment surrounded by a lot of nondescript and in some cases run down houses.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 7:43 PM
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^ I agree. McDermot by the Brodie Centre is probably one of the most urban-feeling spaces in all of Winnipeg. A few more buildings like the Apotex Centre lining McDermot will really improve the feel of what is already a pretty cool looking block.

I'm a bit surprised that a lot of the housing immediately to the west and east of HSC isn't in greater demand... it's a bit like RRC PSC... you have this cool urban campus environment surrounded by a lot of nondescript and in some cases run down houses.
There's tons of demand from developers and the U of M has actually commissioned a student housing consultant out of Toronto to form an opinion as to the number of residences that will be required, but the neighbourhood is organized and there aren't that many people interested in selling. Surprisingly, that little pocket has survived a lot of the dereliction just to the East and North of the hospital. Even the South, really. But I assume it'll come at some point. There's also a group working towards building a large new palliative care hospice just to the East of Sherbrook, so land is going to come at a premium in the area pretty soon.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 8:51 PM
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With two religious sites immediately west on the U of M plans at HSC it seems like they will have a real uphill fight to try and secure land for their planned student residence. The simplest plan might be to include some pads on top of the three new buildings they are planning to construct as future sites for student residence. This would solve the issues of acquiring more land in that area and could likely be accomplished with an overall height similar to the CanadInns hotel. Speaking on the hotel, there might be an opportunity for a partial or full conversion of that building as well.

With this plan it would seem the HSC/U of M health campus are going to start reaching the geographic limits of their current location.

A side of the story I have not heard yet is what is being planned as a replacement for the space used by Nursing on the Fort Garry campus. That is still a relatively new building so I would imagine it will be repurposed instead of demolished. Also how does that fit in the overall Project Domino, it seems a "phase 2" is being planned for the northern part of campus as the Faculty of Art and now Nursing both leaving space behind suggests something is being planned for their.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 9:14 PM
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^ I would imagine that the churches could possibly be bought out without too much trouble... the population in those neighbourhoods has declined and I'd imagine that the congregations could probably find other suitable buildings nearby.

I'd love to see the U of M expand its presence to the south so that it basically lines the north side of Notre Dame. I would expect that the Women's Pavilion will be ready for the wrecking ball once the new facility opens up next year, so there will be a great opportunity for the U of M to put up a building there.

HSC itself seems to be expanding more along William, so there are two distinct areas where growth is happening in that area.
     
     
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the old womens hospital will be repurposed for use by one of the departments that will be moved for renovations i would think
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2015, 1:33 PM
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the old womens hospital will be repurposed for use by one of the departments that will be moved for renovations i would think
Yes, It will be used to decant some of the older buildings on McDermot that will be replaced in the coming years. In time it too will be demolished for something new.
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