YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Valley_Refugee]

Originally Posted by Alpine

Would like some anecdotes from frequent flyers, since I haven't flown out of YVR for a long time.

What flights do most Vancouverites take if they want to get to the Middle East/North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Southeast Asia?

The only one I know for sure is Indians take the late night CX889 to HKG then continue on to Delhi, and that's because I saw a lot of Indians at the Cathay check in line.

Speculation on my part, but I would think (if one wanted only one connection):

Middle East/NA: British, Lufthansa. AC also code shares with MEA to Beirut through London.

Sub-Saharan Africa: British

India: Cathay, China Airlines, EVA

SE Asia: Probably most of the major Asian carriers are a decent option...?

[trofirhen]

Do you think any major South American destinations will come up in the next couple of years, maybe spurred on by the TWOV facility?
Lima? São Paulo?

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Speculation on my part, but I would think (if one wanted only one connection):

Middle East/NA: British, Lufthansa. AC also code shares with MEA to Beirut through London.

Sub-Saharan Africa: British

India: Cathay, China Airlines, EVA

SE Asia: Probably most of the major Asian carriers are a decent option...?

Yep would agree with this list. Cathay does really well connecting passengers to India, but I believe flying east is also an option, eg via Frankfurt on LH

[connect2source]

From Lufthansa 493 YVR-FRA Feb 8th - 747-400 Biz Class

Photo By : connect2source

[Valley_Refugee]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Do you think any major South American destinations will come up in the next couple of years, maybe spurred on by the TWOV facility?
Lima? São Paulo?

Well I think we've discussed this ad nauseum, but I think those are not high on the list of likely destinations. Lima would come before Sao Paulo I would think, but even Air Canada has "rouged" Toronto-Lima. I understand from a pilot friend of mine that the route was actually fairly thin (think: mostly Machu Picchu-bound backpackers). Perhaps one of the South American carriers could make a go of it, but the only *A carrier in SA now is Avianca. AC doesn't even do dailies into Bogota from Pearson and Avianca only serves Toronto from San Salvador. I'm not sure LAN could make a go of this route with limited onward connections.

[trofirhen]

In China, Chongquing (Chunking) seems an up-and-compang destination, with flights to San Francisco and Rome.
I wonder if & when YVR will get that link.

[The_Animal]

Hmmm, still wondering if YVR will ever get that A380 route anytime soon. Hopefully the 747s can use those gates too.

[sacrifice333]

Originally Posted by The_Animal

Hmmm, still wondering if YVR will ever get that A380 route anytime soon. Hopefully the 747s can use those gates too.

Maybe if BA retires their 747 fleet in favour of A380s (except they're going with 777-300s!), but other than that what route would it make sense on?! YVR seems like more of a 787 airport than one for the behemoths.

[zahav]

No shocks here, but YVR just named best airport in North America again

http://www.yvr.ca/en/flight-information/..._Best_Airport_Six_Consecutive_Years.aspx

[The_Animal]

Originally Posted by sacrifice333

Maybe if BA retires their 747 fleet in favour of A380s (except they're going with 777-300s!), but other than that what route would it make sense on?! YVR seems like more of a 787 airport than one for the behemoths.

Guess I'm gonna have to schedule a trip to Pearson in Toronto to photograph A380s. Cause I'll be damned if I set foot in that hell south of the 49th. *cough*FATCA*cough*.

[SFUVancouver]

I don't think that it is likely we will see an A380 call on Vancouver with any scheduled frequency. Perhaps some seasonal A380s might be seen, such as the Qantas YVR-SYD route which operates a B744 when it operates for part of the year, or perhaps some of the Chinese carriers may find that demand warrants an A380 during the Lunar New Year peak travel season. But that's about it off of the top of my head. The A330 and B777 are just too good to bother with anything larger for Vancouver's long-haul wide-bodied routes. Most carriers with 744 equipment would today probably spring for 777, or the 777X that's in the pipeline, and the A330, or the A330neo that's in the pipeline and A350-900 & A350-1000 models.

[red-paladin]

Fairmont Vancouver Airport was voted best airport hotel in North America.
http://metronews.ca/news/vancouver/13099...o-1-in-north-america-six-years-in-a-row/

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Most carriers with 744 equipment would today probably spring for 777, or the 777X that's in the pipeline, and the A330, or the A330neo that's in the pipeline.

The bulk of Cathay's new fleet will be A350-900's and A350-1000's, 48 in all, replacing 747-400's and early 777-300's and 777-200's so we're likely to see lots of A350's in the not-to-distant future!

[zahav]

Although technically not an additional flight (since this would be operating to Shanghai anyways), but China Eastern is converting one of their daily flight into a 1-stop to Kunming, carrying on from Shanghai:

China Eastern Adds 1-Stop Kunming – Vancouver Flights from late-June 2015
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Update at 0800GMT 12MAR15

China Eastern from 26JUN15 is modifying operations on Shanghai Pu Dong – Vancouver route, as 3 of 14 weekly service sees service originates and terminates in Kunming, the host city of Routes Asia 2015. Planned Kunming – Shanghai Pu Dong – Vancouver 3 weekly schedule as follow.

MU597 KMG1840 – 2140PVG2350 – 1910YVR 332 257
MU598 YVR0130 – 0500+1PVG0800+1 – 1110+1KMG 332 136

Read more from 2015, China Eastern, [Skyteam]

http://airlineroute.net/2015/03/12/mu-kmgyvr-jun15/

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by connect2source

The bulk of Cathay's new fleet will be A350-900's and A350-1000's, 48 in all, replacing 747-400's and early 777-300's and 777-200's so we're likely to see lots of A350's in the not-to-distant future!

Thanks. Had a brain fart about the A350 when I wrote that and forgot that it was less a 787-killer than an 777-killer.

[urbancanadian]

Originally Posted by zahav

Although technically not an additional flight (since this would be operating to Shanghai anyways), but China Eastern is converting one of their daily flight into a 1-stop to Kunming, carrying on from Shanghai:

China Eastern Adds 1-Stop Kunming – Vancouver Flights from late-June 2015
by JL
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Update at 0800GMT 12MAR15

China Eastern from 26JUN15 is modifying operations on Shanghai Pu Dong – Vancouver route, as 3 of 14 weekly service sees service originates and terminates in Kunming, the host city of Routes Asia 2015. Planned Kunming – Shanghai Pu Dong – Vancouver 3 weekly schedule as follow.

MU597 KMG1840 – 2140PVG2350 – 1910YVR 332 257
MU598 YVR0130 – 0500+1PVG0800+1 – 1110+1KMG 332 136

Read more from 2015, China Eastern, [Skyteam]

http://airlineroute.net/2015/03/12/mu-kmgyvr-jun15/

Cool, thanks! Does this mean it's permanent? Or is it a short-term thing in conjunction with the Routes Asia convention?

[Hot Rod]

another feather in the hat for Vancouver's scheduled non-stop/direct routes, particularly to China in this case.

China Routes
Vancouver-Beijing
Vancouver-Shanghai
Vancouver-Shanghai-Kunming
Vancouver-Guangzhou
Vancouver-Shenyang-Chengdu

now I'm just waiting on:

Vancouver-Nanjing-Chongqing
Vancouver-Harbin-Xiamen
Vancouver-Tianjin-Xian

which would give Vancouver direct access to all of China's top business and tourism cities and top 10 airports.

then perhaps

Vancouver-Qingdao-Urumqi

and maybe

Vancouver-Guangzhou-Sanya/Haikou

somehow

Vancouver-Huangzhou-Wuhan/Changsha/Nanning

oh the possibilities. But let's get Vancouver-Chongqing next!!!

[Hot Rod]

who could forget the longest established, most frequent, and highest capacity route from Vancouver to China (likely anywhere international):

Vancouver-Hong Kong. hehe

[phesto]

YVR's low-cost carrier runs into trouble before takeoff
http://www.bcbusiness.ca/manufacturing-t...carrier-runs-into-trouble-before-takeoff

[Johnny Aussie]

Effective 12 December EVA increases YVR-TPE to 5 weekly from 4 weekly. All flights to remain 744s for now.

New flights being added on Sundays.

From airlineroute in twitter:

“@airlineroute: EVA Air adds 5th weekly Taipei - Vancouver service from 12DEC15, 5th weekly Toronto flight to be added from 13DEC15 #RoutesAsia”

BR010 TPE2355 - 1820YVR 744 x24
BR011 YVR0055 - 0535TPE+1 744 x35