The Great Canadian Transit Thread - Page 303

Chadillaccc · #**6041** Posted **Mar 10, 2015, 7:17 AM**

The city of Saskatoon has approved a 6.5 kilometer BRT line. They want the lanes installed within 3 years, along with the 11 stations. The cost estimate is around $100 million. They also have a further 16 kilometers of BRT planned after the first phase, the total cost is estimated to be $300 million.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/rapid+transit+could+cost+330M/10858953/story.html

lrt's friend · #**6042** Posted **Mar 10, 2015, 6:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

The city of Saskatoon has approved a 6.5 kilometer BRT line. They want the lanes installed within 3 years, along with the 11 stations. The cost estimate is around $100 million. They also have a further 16 kilometers of BRT planned after the first phase, the total cost is estimated to be $300 million.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/rapid+transit+could+cost+330M/10858953/story.html

A few years ago, I looked at transit schedules in Saskatoon. At that time, service was every half hour at best on all routes even during peak periods. In other words, the level of service expected in smaller cities.

This is a big announcement to improve transit from what I saw before.

1overcosc · #**6043** Posted **Mar 10, 2015, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

A few years ago, I looked at transit schedules in Saskatoon. At that time, service was every half hour at best on all routes even during peak periods. In other words, the level of service expected in smaller cities.

This is a big announcement to improve transit from what I saw before.

How closely did you look at the route layouts? It could very well be that there were areas that essentially have 10-15 minute service by having routes that overlap or nearly overlap. Kingston does this extensively.

jigglysquishy · #**6044** Posted **Mar 10, 2015, 7:24 PM**

The city hasn't actually approved it yet. Doesn't go to council until 2016.

miketoronto · #**6045** Posted **Mar 11, 2015, 2:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

The city of Saskatoon has approved a 6.5 kilometer BRT line. They want the lanes installed within 3 years, along with the 11 stations. The cost estimate is around $100 million. They also have a further 16 kilometers of BRT planned after the first phase, the total cost is estimated to be $300 million.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/rapid+transit+could+cost+330M/10858953/story.html

11 stations in 6 km. That is not going to be rapid at all.

miketoronto · #**6046** Posted **Mar 11, 2015, 2:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

A few years ago, I looked at transit schedules in Saskatoon. At that time, service was every half hour at best on all routes even during peak periods. In other words, the level of service expected in smaller cities.

This is a big announcement to improve transit from what I saw before.

Saskatoon combines routes to create high frequency service along main corridors.

Chadillaccc · #**6047** Posted **Mar 11, 2015, 4:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

The city hasn't actually approved it yet. Doesn't go to council until 2016.

Oh crap, sorry

Well anyways, here's the most comprehensive map of Calgary's future Green Line that has been made public so far. Noting only one downtown station on the map means it's not finalized, but the city is expected to make a decision this year. The likely outcome is for a second proposed subway for the city.

http://www.calgarycitynews.com/2015/03/green-line-south-east-transitway-march.html

1overcosc · #**6048** Posted **Mar 11, 2015, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by miketoronto

11 stations in 6 km. That is not going to be rapid at all.

Surprised I didn't catch that. 11 stations in 6km... that is a lot of stations. Especially for BRT.

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Originally Posted by miketoronto

Saskatoon combines routes to create high frequency service along main corridors.

Ah, so they do.

hipster duck · #**6049** Posted **Mar 11, 2015, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Well anyways, here's the most comprehensive map of Calgary's future Green Line that has been made public so far. Noting only one downtown station on the map means it's not finalized, but the city is expected to make a decision this year. The likely outcome is for a second proposed subway for the city.

Nothing between downtown and 16 Ave. N? That's quite a gap.

VIce · #**6050** Posted **Mar 11, 2015, 9:28 PM**

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Nothing between downtown and 16 Ave. N? That's quite a gap.

The route outside of downtown is fairly non-controversial. The big issue right now is how the route will cross the river - over the existing Centre Street Bridge, a new bridge, or a tunnel. As such, while there will almost certainly be more stations between 16th N and 4th SE, where they will be is not yet known.

SteelTown · #**6051** Posted **Mar 12, 2015, 12:00 AM**

Hamilton City Council has just voted to approve funding request of $302 million to get more express buses and a new garage on top of the full B-Line LRT funding request ($811 million). So that brings the total to $1.113 billion.

Now we await for what Queen's Park will say.

ssiguy · #**6052** Posted **Mar 12, 2015, 4:49 AM**

The Calgary Green Line is real BRT like Ottawa's Transitway isn't it?

MalcolmTucker · #**6053** Posted **Mar 12, 2015, 5:30 PM**

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The Calgary Green Line is real BRT like Ottawa's Transitway isn't it?

Yes - downtown alignment style TBD. I doubt the system will end up being clogged by local expresses though, plus there is already all the LRT capacity, so it gives a lot more flexibility.

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MoreTrains · #**6055** Posted **Mar 17, 2015, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

Hamilton City Council has just voted to approve funding request of $302 million to get more express buses and a new garage on top of the full B-Line LRT funding request ($811 million). So that brings the total to $1.113 billion.

Now we await for what Queen's Park will say.

Say what?! So Ontario, with its gift of 100% funding, will be giving more money to Hamilton to complete the B line and a boatload of express buses, but will only be giving Ottawa 1/3 of what it needs to complete the Confederation line? I love the allocation processes in governments, and by love I mean confused to the point of Aneurysm.

GreaterMontréal · #**6056** Posted **Mar 17, 2015, 8:08 PM**

Preparatory Stage of the New Bridge for the St. Lawrence Project Nears Completion

Quick facts

-The new bridge for the St. Lawrence corridor project is one of the largest infrastructure projects in North America.
-The project includes a new bridge for the St Lawrence, a new Île-des-Soeurs bridge, reconstruction of Highway 15 on Île-des-Soeurs and reconstruction and widening of Highway 15 on the Island of Montreal.
-Private properties account for less than 0.3% of the properties located within the New Bridge for the St Lawrence corridor. The remaining properties belong to the various levels of government, including the federal government.
-The 14 residential properties required for the project were all acquired on a willing-buyer/willing-seller basis.

Quotes

"Since the start of the project, in October 2011, the Government of Canada and its various stakeholders have been working on an accelerated timeline, so that Quebecers and the thousands of users of the new bridge for the St. Lawrence can benefit from a safe and architecturally stunning bridge by December 2018."

"I commend the cooperation of private and public property owners during the process to acquire properties along the corridor for the new bridge. Their collaboration has been invaluable in our efforts to get the work started according to the planned timetable."

- The Honourable Denis Lebel, Minister of Infrastructure, Communities and Intergovernmental Affairs and Minister of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=945579

Kibb · #**6057** Posted **Mar 18, 2015, 8:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by MoreTrains

Say what?! So Ontario, with its gift of 100% funding, will be giving more money to Hamilton to complete the B line and a boatload of express buses, but will only be giving Ottawa 1/3 of what it needs to complete the Confederation line? I love the allocation processes in governments, and by love I mean confused to the point of Aneurysm.

*cough* less then a 1/3 *cough*

TorontoDrew · #**6058** Posted **Mar 18, 2015, 1:09 PM**

So will there be all day service between Hamilton and Toronto 7 days a week after the station is ready?

1overcosc · #**6059** Posted **Mar 18, 2015, 1:11 PM**

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*cough* less then a 1/3 *cough*

It will be 1/3 for Phase 2.

If you consider that Ottawa's project is way more expensive, and that Ottawa gets two large doses of provincial funding in the same decade, it's fair. Hamilton's getting $1.1B in one shot, Ottawa gets $600M in one shot then $975M in another shot five years later, for a total of about $1.6B. On a per capita basis, Hamilton $1.1B and Ottawa $1.6B are comparable.

SteelTown · #**6060** Posted **Mar 18, 2015, 1:13 PM**

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So will there be all day service between Hamilton and Toronto 7 days a week after the station is ready?

No, think it'll only be an additional four or five train trips to the James St N GO Station. Though ultimately the goal is to get all day GO Train service.

It's additional on top of the GO Trains to the Hunter St GO Station.